hmm I'm not sure because i'm pretty surew that the ps3 come with regular composite cables...

like it said here

and here the translation(sorry for my poor english transalation>.>)

I'm not sure if the multi-AV composite cable is, but I think that's the regular cable for a normal TV no?

so if this is true there's only the HDMI cable that is optional, or I didn't understand at all to what you guys were saying XD

The PS3 comes with composite cables, which is basically the red, white and yellow ended Multi-AV cables we've used since the Playstation. If you already bought component cables for the PS2, they are compatible with the PS3 because they both use the Multi-AV end.

No Component or HDMI out of the box for the PS3, for reasons stated earlier (most people do not have HDTVs).

And if they did include an HDMI cable, thoes things are damn expensive even for a 6ft cable therefore making the system more expensive.

I have a question though. They have HDMI to DVI converters right? And would I be able to use my wide screen 19" monitor that I use with my computer for my PS3? Like I said, my monitor has DVI input.

No, they're not. Manufacturers are simply overpricing the shit out of them. I put up links to one of many sites that offer affordable cables with quality on par with the overpriced junk out there like Monster.

Here it is again:

3 Foot HDMI cable

6 foot HDMI cable

10 foot HDMI cable



DVI/HDMI cable

You should. That's why they make hdmi to dvi cables. HDMI and DVI are practically the same thing. Difference is that HDMI also carries audio information. So you'll have to use the optical out or stereo for audio if you do that.

Does anyone know the chepeast place to get 2.5 hard drives? I skipped out on the $600 system because I figured I could get a higher capacity HD for less than $100, but I've never shopped around for 2.5 drives before. Some suggestions and links would be nice.

Uh, you don't think Sony thought ahead and put some sort of propriety code or some bullshit on the harddrives they include in the systems to prevent you from doing this?

Is this one good? I made sure to go 5400rpm, since picking standard speed for laptop HDDs drives the prices up considerably.

Edit: The OS will likely format the drive, but it's simply a 5400rpm SATA laptop drive. IIRC, made by Seagate.

Speaking of Seagate, they've got 100GB drive right here. Too bad it's expensive as hell.

Haven't they stated several times that just about every kind of 2.5 drive will work with the PS3?

Have they really? Seems like a pretty bad idea for Sony. I can imagine this being an extremely easy way for hackers to mess with the system.

Just like Linux is an extremely easy way for hackers to fiddle around with the machine. The problem there, and it's the same one that'll plague them while they try to go about this, is that the architecture of the machine has these security features built in, as well as the OS.

If these savvy guys get SNES/NES/Genesis/etc emulators running smoothly on Linux, it'd pretty much make the machine worth it on that count alone.

Another thing I should brush on, the drive speed. What was the rpm for the default PS3 hard drives again? I've read some people speculating that the faster the drive speed=faster load times on PS3 games, but is that a given?

5400 is what was given when it was announced. That also seems to be in line with the average laptop drive, as well as explaining why the 7200rpm ones cost so much.

And yes, if they're using it for caching, there should be some improvement. I'm assuming this is similar to putting your programs on a 10,000rpm Raptor where they run faster than, say, on a 7200 or 5400 drive.

I know that with standard HDDs that the standard speed is about 7200. However laptop HDDs don't run as fast to cut down on power usage and heat, therefore 5400 is usually the standard in laptops. You can still get 7200 laptop HDDs, but because they're not the standard, they tend to be more expensive.

Also Acer the Wii is doing the same thing, allowing you to use any HDD you please.

EDIT: Darn you Metal for posting at the same time as I, lol. But yeah, basically what he said.

Not necessarily. You can have a 5400 and 7200RPM hard drive run the same things with no noticible difference. The tech spec you'll want to compare is seek time, not RPM.

(Though, you are right that in general, the seek time will be faster on higher RPM drives. Just check that the seek time is worth shelling out however much extra money for it.)

Guh. Please don't spout such nonsense.

The Wii has the ability to access things via USB. However, the Wii must be programmed to recognize whatever is plugged into the USB. It's planned that in the future via a firmware update that the Wii could recognize external harddrives via USB. However, if this means any external harddrive or specialized harddrives sold only by Nintendo remains to be seen.

It also remains to be seen how far an extent the SD card port can be used as that will be the most abused feature I can foresee. At least for now.

I asked this a few pages back, but it got lost in the Metallic image spam ;)

Like Slayer, I'm going to be using HDMI->DVI for my PS3 connection since I've got a nice 20" wide Dell monitor.

However, does anyone know of a (relatively) cheap solution to be able to plug both my computer and the PS3 into the monitor at once and be able to switch between them without the massive unscrewing requierd for DVI connections?

One solution I have is to take a cut in monitor clarity and just use the VGA connector for my monitor... But ideally that's not the best solution. There's a box out there that can do this, but it's designed for being able to control two computers at once with one monitor and keyboard & mouse, rather than just being a switchbox for DVI inputs.

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And another, unrelated question: Has anyone checked out their local Best Buys for PS3 kiosks yet? They were supposedly rolled out yesterday the 20th, but I hadn't heard any big fangasm about them since the allegedly false PS3 fanboy lineup from earlier in the week. I was going to check it out today, but wanted to check with other folks first before depleting a chunk of my day ;)

Hey, I suffer from that too. I put up pictures and often time I make a big spread only for it to get lost as the last post on a page. :(

Here's what I have in mind:

Use an DVI to HDMI cable to go from your computer to your monitor, and have that go into an HDMI switchbox.

PC (DVI to HDMI cable) -> HDMI switchbox

Now, have the PS3 go into the switchbox with a regular HDMI cable:

PS3 (HDMI cable) -> HDMI switchbox

Now, you're going to need an adapter to connect your computer's DVI cable to the HDMI box, unless it's removable and you can simply get an HDMI to DVI cable, or vice versa. Here's a switchbox:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

HDMI cable:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

DVI to HDMI cable:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...ormat=2&style=

How's the solution above?

Hmm, haven't checked either. Of course, the rollout date is the 20th, doesn't mean all the stores will just have one magically appear.

Yeah. Get a DVI male to female cord and just plug the cable you want in at easy reach access.

Double Post:
Oh Metal, have you seen a switch box like that does the opposite. I want one that takes one input and switches between 2 outputs. I have two displays and would like to switch to both of them on the fly.

Hmm, that should be easy to find. I'll just edit this post with the link to it.

Edit: Err, I think I found one:

http://sewelldirect.com/gefen2x2hdmiswitch.asp

Problem is, that thing is expensive. Well, HDMI switchers with more than one output are expensive, just to clarify.

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Male to female cord seems to be the best option in this case I think :) The switchbox is on backorder, dunno if it would get back in stock by release. Male-female option is also a bucketload cheaper, though of course still requires screwing in the cable. But it beats dealing with the back of the monitor.

Yeah, I'd rather go with the easy way. But since you mentioned switchbox I made sure to incorporate that in there (that and no screwing).

Source

Looks like getting a faster/larger HDD is inevitable if you want to get a few of your games loading faster.

Phil Harrison has confirmed that demos, trailers, updates and some other downloadables will be free of charge.

Perhaps this was mentioned somewhere else. But allowing you to install the game, wouldn't that make it easier for people to rent it, install it, and then play the game whenever you want afterwards. This ultimatly taking away from game ssales. Or does Sony have a plan in motion like game ID#s to stop this from happening?

It's not actually "installing" the game, so much as it's putting info on the HDD so the game doesn't have to read them off the disc. Even though 2x BR = ~6x DVD in terms of transfer rate (due to larger aperture), it's still slower than a 12x DVD drive. This is one of the reasons why the machine is quieter than its competition too.

IIRC, this is basically HDD caching.

HDD caching is something that Namco Bandai did right with Tekken: Dark Resurrection for the PSP, if I'm not mistaken. You still need the UMD, but it caches to the memory stick and has virtually no load times.

That's a great feature for the PS3 though, and certainly incentive to find a cheap 80GB or so that'll fit the PS3.