Just thinking out loud here but, Venom worked well in comics and in the animated series but I'm a bit worried as to how his voice will be handled in movie...let alone the CG :eyebrow:
Also good call on Raimi's behalf to have Spidey's webshooters organic. There would be alot of raised questions as to how the symbiote possessed Parker's abilities if they weren't. :lolsign:

Spidey gets a little too close and personal with Farmer Hogget :p
http://static.flickr.com/69/155651350_885455fc5f.jpg

"What's that Farmer Hogget? You want me to bend over, touch my toes, and baa?... But why?"
http://static.flickr.com/57/155651185_74375a7271.jpg

I think what your saying could possibly be true. I doubt Raimi would put all those villains in there and make a rushjob. I think some will either just be hinted/alluded at or have very minor rolls. Though, with the black suit being in there, I think this seals the deal for Venom appearing in some form or the other.

Teaser trailer to be played with Superman Returns, unfortunately it will not be playing with IMAX screenings of Returns. :doh: Trailer description here.

On a quick note, I just find it funny how DC movie trailers show for Marvel films and vice versa. Doesn't anyone else get a chuckle when they see this?

The trailer description is interesting, though I have to wonder how many CG shots will be shown, as the movie is still a year off. Unfinished sfx, here we come!!

Although it's already filled with villains, does anyone know if Lizard will show up here as well? Doc Conners was in part 2, and I would assume Raimi might delve into his transformation in some way, unless this is being saved for the second trilogy.

Well, last time I had checked IMDB, it listed somebody as "Kurt Connors/The Lizard" and only had Topher Grace listed as "Eddie Brock." Now, there's no sign of Kurt and Topher is now "Eddie Brock/Venom."
Never has IMDB's disclaimer, "Since this project is categorized as being in production, the data is subject to change; some data could be removed completely. been more true.
So...yeah. Who knows. I think that Connors will probably be in there as the doctor that Peter goes to for the symbiote removal, because I seriously doubt they'll bring in the cast of the FF for a guest appearance. And then they could introduce the audience to Connors in preparation for The Lizard in a future film.

Since IMDB can be edited by just about anyone, you really shouldn't trust it when it comes to up and coming movies like this. I could edit it to say that Adam West is going to play Carnage, but that doesn't make it so.

Also Connors already was introduced in #2 as Peter's professor. If he is in this I very highly doubt it will be anything more than a quick walk on.

Yea, that's what I figured.

Though him being used as a helping hand for Peter for the symbiote sounds pretty damn plausible. A good way to give him some more screen time for sure.

I still absolutely abhor the fact that a skeleton such as Topher Grace is actually supposed to be Venom though. I'd say that Josh Lucas would've been a MUCH better choice for Eddie Brock; he has the acting ability, and if he trains enough, he can have a decent body for the character.

The fact that Topher got the role shows that Raimi has a better understanding of the material than goobers on the internet. The function of Venom has always been "evil Spider-Man" - they've just taken it an extra step to make Brock a parallel of Parker in a physical aspect.

Makes plenty of fucking sense to me, goober.

The description of Venom as "evil Spider-Man" can be debated.

Venom is not the type of person who would just go on a random killing rampage as say, Carnage would. Venom just has a warped sense of justice and morals, and he acts upon that. Doesn't necessarily make him "evil"; essentially in the same vain as Magneto.

That's about all I'll say, as a debate such as this can go on for ages, with various viewpoints and whatnot. That's my two cents, and I'm gonna take them back, because I'm a real cheap bastard :)

Goober...I like that. Thanks for labelling me there, bud.

http://www.angelfire.com/comics/ulti...eddiebrock.JPG

Ultimate Eddie Brock.

Hardly the physical specimen that "616" Eddie is. However Ultimate Spider-man compared to Ultimate Venom;

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e/Venom-sm.jpg

Perhaps Raimi is going to go the Ultimate way and make the Venom suit "fill out" Eddie's size, rather than the normal continuity of it just wrapping around Brock's already imposing frame.

Well, in Spiderman 1, May Parker tells Peter that "He is not Superman". I think there was another quote from another DC superheroe, but I'm not sure...

Hardly. They take it to such an extreme as to make Venom LARGER than Spider-Man, as well as lacking in color, as opposed to Peter Parker's patriotic tights.

That doesn't mean shit from fuck. Doctor Octopus doesn't go on random killing rampages - nor does Mysterio, The Shocker, The Trapster, Magneto, Doctor Doom, The Mole Man, The Jackal, The Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Jack O'Lantern, Rhino, Scorpion, The Vulture, Kraven The Hunter, The Chamelion, Morbius, The Tarantula, The Lizard, Puma, Tombstone, Crime Master, Hydroman, Sandman, Molten Man or Manwolf.

But they're all still villians, aren't they? The only one I can think of that would go on a killing spree is Sin Eater, and he blew his brains out years ago.

Magneto does what he does because he has a moral and ethical grounding. Venom's sense of justice is just a cheap, lame writing ploy in an attempt to make him a character to sell as a protagonist.

You also should take back your last post - because it added up to nothing.

And the whole "running down the street, pulling open front of shirt to reveal suit" thing in the first movie :). I couldn't believe how Superman-esque that was.

Villians yes, but that wasn't your original point. You point was whether or not Venom was an "evil Spider-Man". Is he truly evil? Esecially considering the fact that, as you said, he's been portrayed as a protagonist many times? I wouldn't say that Venom is outright evil, just that he has a twisted sense of logic.

And I like how you seem to know what Marvel was aiming at when they created the Venom character, by using a "cheap, lame writing ploy". Did Stan Lee tell you that at some crazy late-night party or something? I'd say be grateful that you have access to insider Marvel Comics thought processes.

:boxing:

Oh well, I don't want this to become some kind of war of words, so I'll just wave the white flag up so that we can move forward on the subject of the film itself.

That train of thought hits several derailments, a boxcar and the business end of a pole barn when you realize that the level of writing given to Venom post-McFarlane years is utterly fucking trash in every single segment.

Don't believe me? Look at Marvel's crappy attempt at renigging the past by reinventing the character in Ultimate Spider-Man.

Yes, Venom is truely evil - be it because he's thrashing the shit out of everyone's favorite webspinner - or because he's the focus of fucking crappy writing.

I like how you atttempt a dismissive comment but yet don't make a discernable arguement or counterpoint against my previous statement. You just attempt cheap mockery because you're attempting to stack NOTHING against what I stated (Venom's color scheme, size differences)

Basically, you're trolling.

I own stock in Marvel.

So - you come here to make a point, argue it and then attempt to leave. So you just admited to trolling.

Alright, I'll bite - I'm flagging your post.

LeHah, you apparently can't see that I'm taking this lightly, and see that debating this moot point is useless and does nothing for the benefit of this thread, so we should just leave it in the dirt and move on.

And I don't see how I'm trolling. Are you saying that I should instead continue to argue my point with you for as many pages as it can endure? That's just silly, and something that isn't needed for anyone here.

Apparently though, I've pissed you off in some way, and you want to continue by flagging me. I'm sure there are other posters out there who are in dire need of flagging much more than I do. But if you must, go ahead, if it'll cheer you up. I'll just move on.

Does anyone know if the Spider-Man 3 teaser will hit the web before the Superman debut? Most likely not, but there have been plenty of times where we get the occasional friendly leakage our way :edgarrock:

I'm just hoping that they don't repeat the mistake they made with the Spider-Man 2 online teaser premiere by having it on Flash format...ughn, that was just plain ugly.

Teaser has hit the web:
http://www.kristiandavid.com/spidey/

It's a little grainy but it's still decent quality. There's no Venom but you get a good shot of Sandman's powers and what looks like 2 different Goblins...

That would've been a great idea - but you continue to keep writing in this post, so I can't really say you're taking your own medicine.

1.) You're trolling by dismissing my earlier statements that were bolstered with evidence and facts with utter nonsense. And you're doing it repeatedly. Trolling.

2.) Yes, you should argue your point - but I don't think you even know how to do that. All you're saying is "no you're wrong!" without telling anyone why. Post something worthwhile, make someone think about what you posted instead of pissing nonsense and shitting banalities all over my fucking internet.

3.) It IS needed here. Good conversation is what's needed on the internet - because of people like you. Get the point? You're a terrible poster, you make baseless, unintelligent posts. You're taking up space and saying nothing in it.

There are - but we already know about VG and WolfDemon.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, fag-tag.

Spider-Man 3 teaser trailer uploaded... :rock:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_p.../spider-man_3/

Looks badass, can't wait!

By the way Lehah, can't remember the actor's name, but the guy in your sig looks like he would've hold his side as Norman Osborn in a good Spider-Man adaptation.

Holy Crap-My-Pants, that was awesome. I cannot for May 2007. ;.;

That was the SHIT! Goddamn that was awesome. And yeah, Lehah, the suit looks pretty black to me. I'd love to quote myself here for being correct when I said:

That was just amazing. It definitely gives an excellent reason of why we shouldn't die in the next year. :biggrin:

Anyone else notice that this thread is huge? The moment this movie draws nearer to theaters, we'll see an increase of activity. Quite the accomplishment for a movie that's less than a year away!