Maybe Ug eats babies too. :(

Ug likes placenta, sells babies for more women

Saves up. Buys nintendo Wii. Ug like Rayman. Funny bunny falls down a lot.

Ug is wimpy casual gamer. Old-schoolers like Torg only play Joe & Mac for NES.

Ug prefer Joe & Mac for SNES. More historically accurate. Ug hates anachronism.

Ug prefer unshaven vagina. Shaved cootch make Ug think of little girl.

But Ug digresses...

Please pardon the refrence but I feel it to helpful in my explanation.
Isaiah 55:9
"As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

It is not clear as to what brand new matter is like to us. Let alone a brand new Earth.
Consider for a moment that it may not be helpful to the support of life. I think radioactive decay is the most poplular dating method. Imagine the radiation levels of the early earth.
The the term God helps us imagine an entity that has complete mastery of all aspects of reality, not just of what we we can measure.
A God could wind the clock forward on matter for the purpose of our current state of comfort.
Consider again the application of pursuing this idea. Toxic waste could be "aged" to meet safety requirements. Stockpiles of nuclear waste processed for some other purpose.


You have done all that I asked, thanks.

If it were so, then why wouldn't he have done something about the already existing nuclear waste?

If there is a God, you have to accept that everything that goes on has already been foreseen by him and that there is no reason to worry about anything. If you admit that he should change some things, then your saying he wasn't able to make everything perfect on the first try and your admitting that he has faults, in which case he can't be the all-ruling and all-powerful entity of which you speak.

Either way, wasting your time imploring him to fix everything that is wrong for us instead of doing something about it yourself (i.e. through research, in this specific case towards ways of handling nuclear waste to make it less dangerous to living beings) serves you in nothing more than it serves us.


you should really give it up. It's getting old.

LordSword. I am really happy that you've found purpose in your life- purpose dictated by the presence and explanation of a supreme being. A god which makes "sense" of a senseless world....

However, its not fair of you to assume that everyone else must follow your example and do the same in order to be "saved". I find your sense of purpose nothing short of aggravating. It's almost as if you aren't convinced enough about your own sense of faith so you must re-inforce it by trying to change the mind of the people around you.

Not everyone wants to be "saved" because it involves man not holding himself accountable for his own fate.
You are trying to forcefeed people into accepting something and it's never going to work, at least not here. People are far too educated to place their lives and fate in the hands of such a clumsy supreme being, let alone you.

I feel like I must post this. Then again, you will probably read this and double your efforts... You just don't know when to quit. Accept that you can't/shouldn't try to change anyone to re-affirm your own sense of faith. That's incredibly selfish and undermines the intelligence of not only the entire forum, but yourself.

edit: Btw, Divest, why did you rate this down?

So God can make 10 million year old rocks for the purpose of ___, because he works in mysterious ways and can do whatever he wants.

So - if he wanted to, anyway - he could have thousand upon thousands of alter dimensions of Earth, slightly different variations with slightly different physics, therefore it is entirely possible that on one of those worlds the events of Naruto are playing out.



I can't tell you how deeply relieved I am that God is not a fangirl.

See, heres the problem. God can create a rock thats millions of years older than the earth actually is - but the guy can't make a BLT because its from an unclean animal.

Something there just don't add up, if you ask me.

Didn't it become clean when Jesus died?

Sweet Jesus, how retarded are you? Honestly, this is why overly-blind religious assholes like you are subhuman in my eyes. Anthing that defies explanation can be quickly resolved by saying "God did it because he's a magical wonderfuck who can do any and everything." Fuck that noise. Don't you have a soul? Don't you realize how retarded you sound when you say shit like this?

To quote Bill Hicks: You ever notice how people who believe in creationism look really unevolved?

Technically, it became clean as soon as technology progressed to the point where the animal was actually COOKED.

All those laws about "unclean" were all intended to quell the spread of disease. Great ideas, up to a point. Technology (and I'm using this in the not even modern sense of the word) fixed a lot of that by the time Jesus rolled around.

Your explanation has two problems.

First, why would God need to create old rocks when he could just let nature take its course? You seem to be suggesting that God does not exist outside of time, which is odd since the Bible indicates the opposite ("With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day", 2 Peter 3:8).

Second, why would God create a system of nature only to contradict it right away? And I do mean right away, because according to the strict reading of the Bible, God created the universe and the Earth all in a matter of days. Your explanation suggests that God made a system and then right afterwards went, "Oh well, better just make the Earth differently cause that isn't gonna work too well for my Saturday deadline." This suggests poor planning on God's part, hardly what I'd expect of an omniscient being.

You just posted what I was about to say, but I'll reinterpret the line from 2 Peter that you posted to say what pretty much all intelligent interpreters of the Bible say, anyway:

Those "7 days" are not literally "seven days!" Big shocker there. The whole week concept merely exists because the Jewish people at the time of the Bible being written had no concept of time that would include the possibility of millions of years. Those 10-million year-old rocks are, guess what: TEN MILLION YEARS OLD!

Plus you get prop points from me for also bringing up the fact that a literal reading of the Bible implies that God fucked up in creating the world originally.

Thats our job remember?
Genesis 2:15
The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.


Ephesians 1:11
In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,
"Old rocks" are made for the purpose of our current environment which He wanted from the beginning.
Wouldnt God see the point in creating a thing correctly in the first place. I explained things in a way that you would understand.

What about the application I put forward? I know its a tough one to wrap ones mind around but I demonstrated how a person uses the creation point of view to forward research. Its not the first time science has had help from religious sources.

HOW ARE ROCKS PEOPLE? or WHAT DOES A QUOTE FROM THE BIBLE CLEARLY INDICATING PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WITH ROCKS?


I think I asked in a way you can understand.

You know, Lordsword, you don't have to take the Bible literally, it wasn't made by God. Or do you take all the non-canonical gospels as equal to the gospels in the Bible?

That's a clever way of keeping the plebes from questioning authority.

Doesn't acknowledging God and then admitting to predestination cancel each other out?

So God tells you to be condescending as well. I see.

Predestination? You mean this fucker's a Calvinist now? He can't even seem to keep his belief systems straight.

Well, cut the guy some slack. He prays to something that cannot be logically understood or agreed upon by any two people in the entire world. He'd have to be a LITTLE confused...