No! A perfect score means a game HAS to be epic and possibly one of the best games ever. There has never been a game that got an inflated score and went on to be utter shit. It just. doesn't. happen. This is the first time, and there is no precedent here. DOESN'T HAPPEN.

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Deni, the more you post, the more I see our views are very similar at least with regards to video gaming.

Didn't Zelda:OOT get a perfect score? I actually am OK with that game getting such a score (although I could see why others might argue against it).

And here I was thinking this was a thread about GTA. Hang on to your hats, I'm about to copy some shit from Kotaku (god forbid).

Soundtrack that comes with the SE is as follows:

Soviet Connection [The Theme From Grand Theft Auto IV] by Michael Hunter
Dirty New Yorker by Mobb Deep Feat. Havoc & Prodigy from H.N.I.C. Part 2 Sessions
No Sex For Ben by The Rapture
No Fraid A by Munga
Where's My Money by Busta Rhymes
I Want You by C.J.
Rocky Mountain Way by Joe Walsh
Stand Up Jamrock by Bob Marley & The Wailers and Damian Marley
Liberty City: The Invasion by Seryoga
Vagabond by Greenskeepers
On A Journey by Electrik Funk
Nickname by Qadir
Holy Thursday by David Axelrod
War Is Necessary by Nas
Zombie by Fela Kuti
5:23 by Global Communication

Mobb Deep, Busta AND Nas? Excellent.

There should be more rap themes.. but I like what I see so far. I dont think I've heard Dirty New Yorker by Mobb Deep at all since its not in Prodigy's HNIC Pt 2 album. Is it a classic track ?

EDIT : Nvm. I thought it was New Yitty. Anyway I heard Dirty NY'er and its fire for a 2:40 track =]. New Yitty is way better though..

I'm getting the impression that there's very little difference between the PS3 and 360 versions, or that any difference is minor. That's great, really. But why does this feel like the first multi-platform game where the PS3 version isn't crippled or slightly lame in some form, due to frame rates or something.

Has something been done differently? Is this a turning point? =o

Well there was Burnout Paradise. Most people say that the PS3 version is the better of the two, probably since it was lead developed on it. The main thing I hear about the PS3 version of GTAIV is that the colors are more vibrant or something like that (and honestly, it's not that big of a deal).

Regardless, the only people who are actually gonna buy the PS3 version are those who don't have a 360 (i.e. me). With a better online interface and exclusive downloadable content coming soon, there really is no reason to get the PS3 version if you have both consoles.

You might be correct there, sir!

Anyway, from what I've heard, the differences are very slim, the dude from IGN maundered something about framerate hitches, but I don't know who fucking cares as long as the rest is perfect.

They sound pretty insignificant. But it's the just the general feeling that developers produce a strong game for 360, then churn out a shady conversion/port for PS3.

If it was lead developed for PS3, then that probably explains it.

He said that both versions have framerate hitches, but texture pop-in is worse on the 360.


No, Xbox 360 was the lead development platform.

By the way, there are some live gameplay streams available from leaked versions, for those who can't wait until next week (like me). This one is active right now: Justin.tv - Reign's footage - Live Streaming Video. Liberty City looks incredible.

Edit: another stream, Justin.tv - Live Streaming Video

Well I meant Burnout Paradise, going on RockgamerXIII's previous post.

Liberty City does look fantastic.

The sheer scope of the soundtrack has me excited. From Miles Davis and John Coltrane to Simian Mobile Disco and LCD Soundsystem to Nas and Ghostface Killah, it all looks incredible. Check this out:

Grand Theft Auto IV soundtrack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Swoon.

Wow, Vladivostok FM is so going to be my favorite radio station




Oh... then again, you can't see her on the radio >_<

Additional Spam:
Wow, they also have a Jazz radiio station, how cool is that

And a non-stop, all Marley, all the time station. =D

All pics shamelessly stolen from GAF [Also, note the embossed logo which will be on regular AND ce versions of the game case]:

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PS3 CE:

My problems with San Andreas were with the story and framerate: the framerate issue has already been addressed, and the story is a problem that's very easy to look past when dealing with an entirely different plot (and a lot more development time).

Maybe it's exaggerated, but if it was a problem before and Rockstar realizes this, they can reach into that endless pocketbook of theirs to fix something people considered an issue? I tell ya, I'd be upset if Rockstar didn't make an attempt to better themselves if people are outspoken about the story of the game... is it possible they listened and took the time to make it better? Seems like a reasonable move for a company if you ask me.

I'm not going to quote the entire post since they revolve around innovation and my understanding: one of the important points the reviewer had brought up were that these are issues fixed from previous incarnations of the game, not entirely new concepts (in regards to your Goldeneye comment). Late? If people want to think that, but gamers looking to play IV will likely have a level of satisfaction knowing those issues are a thing of the past.

Nonetheless, the point I made that you quoted:

...and the half that you didn't quote:

...was that the game deserves its chance that you are more than happy to pigeonhole. IGN would be taking a huge risk to slap a 10 on a game that didn't merit it. At worst, the game would be a 9.5-9.7 that's exaggerated, perhaps? Anything below that would be noticeable and hurt the company's credibility. Most of the issues brought up by the reviewer were new specifics about the game that the public wants to hear about, however mundane it may seem to mention. As far as I'm concerned, the game is worth risking the $63.59.

Seems you did take the time to read the review when put on the spot, and the careful time spent crafting your arguments still don't prove why you seem to have such a disdain that you apparently won't even give the game a chance (not sure on that one, that's entirely you, man)? Like I said, I had problems with the old ones, and because of that I still maintain a level of skepticism. Rest assured: I want Rockstar to deliver and hope they do. This review won't do that until the game is in my hands, but at least it's giving me hope.

A few more reviews are online now, since it seems the embargo has passed. A choice little line from the Eurogamer review that I spotted:

This seems to imply that if you want to take a bit of a time out from that aspect of the game you can (I seem to recall someone saying they were a little worried that you would lose a little freedom because of having to go and deal with other people to make friends, etc.).

GameTrailers' video review is up as well, downloading it now. I was looking forward to it, since GameTrailers usually have the best video reviews, with free HD versions, and I'm sure it will be better than the disastrous IGN video review.

I had to pass this along to folks here that might have been in the same position I was. Having both systems I was highly debating which version to get. Originally I was going to get the 360 version for the DLC promise but after the reviews and seeing this:

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I'm going with the PS3 version. This is an example of the pop-in reviewers are complaining about on the Xbox 360 version. I've decided that I probably won't ever finish this game to begin with so I think getting rid of that mess is more important than DLC. No shitty console wars please. This is only meant to inform.

Not necessarily; it's likely just the effect of a badly pirated game. I really doubt the actual problems in either version are that severe.

Hard to say. That would be an expected result streaming data from a optical disc and many of the reviews have mentioned the issue enough for it to be significant.

No optional install for the Xbox 360 version was a retarded move.

If the pop-in was that bad people would have a little more to say about it than "there's some occasional pop-in not worthy of note". As experience should have proven if people bullshit in reviews it gets picked up quickly. There is no way all these places are collaborating in some mass conspiracy about the pop-in.

Jesus H Christ some of you people are complete fucknuts.

What? I heard there was an optional install for the 360. Have I been mislead?

Actually every review has made a note about the Xbox 360 pop-up issue with the only differences being the various degrees each reviewer perceived the problem. But the simple fact that its mentioned shows that it is an impacting problem. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be mentioned.

This real question is, is it a big deal? Probably not for most. We've dealt with the issue in the past games.