Most of this was great. I only have one problem. If they were able to use infrared on a building earlier, why not use it on the house?

Also, CTU will be needed many new field agents when this season is over. I doubt they have many left.

They didn't have many agents left after the gas attack on CTU last season. After all this, CTU agents ought to get hazard pay just like civilians working in Iraq; seems like no matter where they are, the terrorists always kill most of them.

Wasn't it the double Bauer hour last season where that gas attack happened? In that case, we remember Edgar. One year ago (our time, kinda), you died. RIP.

On unrelated notes, gotta mention...

Graem Bauer will carry on the Bauer legacy. He will rise from the dead.

Also, still waiting on Heller to make his appearance. =p

Upon further thinking, I've come to the conclusion that they should've waited a week to do the two-hour special. It just seems like the flow between the last episode and the upcoming one is better.

I can agree with that. They were both good episodes, but there wasn't really anything about them that connected them too well beyond the typical show plots. They kind of did the same thing last year too. It would have been perfect if they showed the gas attack being carried out, and then them trying to stop it. I guess they wanted to end on something big though, which was Edgar's death.

Edgar's death didn't upset me. REALLY! =( Did it bum everyone else out real bad? 'Cuz his power-tripping bugged the hell outta me.

My guess would be that it would have taken to long to redirect the sat. to scan it.

Yeah, yesterday episodes were ok. Nothing too awesome which would be the greatest story punch ever.

I still think though that:



As for Kim Jr. -> good one :D, best 24 joke I heard this year.

man promo for next episode looks awesome!!

Damnit LOL has anyone seen this http://www.shoutfile.com/v/xrfEukeT/...auer_-_Damn_It

No comments yet? That was... pretty amazing.

Quite a nice episode =D Must say that I REALLY didn't see the last part of the episode coming (with former prez being the man Jack is to go to). I figured Lennox would have second-thoughts, just from how unsure he was about the whole situation. I'm guessing Fayed will be on the backburner for a while, though. Gridenko is numero uno for now. Fayed will probably be the bad guy again for the last half of the season.

Wonder if he's the dude behind Wayne Palmer's assassination attempt?

How do you figure that? It just.. doesn't compute.

This show never has all the cards on the table =p Anyhow, it's just a hunch.

And 24 has a habit of dividing bad guys in two groups. One in the first half of the season, the latter bad guys in the last half.

I'm sure they'll find Gridenko, but Fayed will probably have all the nukes by then and they'll need to track him down just before he uses them.

Just guessing, since the show is a bit formulaic.

Just stop wondering. Save yourself a headache: just make a bet, sit back, and watch. :p

Anyway, didn't see that end coming at all, though I was hoping for the third rising from the dead of Jack Bauer, this time from a bullet wound to the back of the head. Oh, well.

Pretty alright episode, though I have to admit, I'm getting kinda tired of the whole family angle now. It worked with Graem (I guess because of his connection with last season), but everyone else (Phillip, Marilyn, Josh) just seems to drag it out for no reason.

Logan coming back is awesome. Not that the people they have now aren't good, but 24 always makes returning characters seem even more awesome, regardless of whether they're good or bad. I can't wait to see what he brings to the story.

And sorry, but there's basically nothing they can do to make me feel sorry for Lennox. Eh, so he's not working with the people trying to get rid of the President. So what? He's such a fucking prick that I don't care, and honestly, he should have tried to do something earlier to stop them (he's not exactly an undecover agent, so he shouldn't even have tried to string those guys along). Hopefully we'll be able to say good riddance to him soon.

And what's with CTU this season? In seasons past, you could argue that it was the center point of the show, but now it's just there to provide artificial drama. Chloe is in like every freaking scene now (I like the character, but she's better in small doses rather than large chunks; and she's not even as quirky anymore, anyway), Nadia is severely underused (seriously, from the first few episodes, I thought she was a really important person at CTU, but now it's hard to even remember she's there unless she's in a scene), and Morris is just fucking annoying, now as depressed loser rather than the jealous lover of earlier this season. Buchanan is alright, though he too is a little underused. Milo is really the only interesting character there right now, so I hope they give him some more focus.

But I'm probably being a little too harsh. Anyway, next week looks like it'll be good, especially the stuff with Palmer and Logan.

Stop wondering? Then what's the point of this thread? =P

Less Morris, more Milo I say. I guess he won't go out in the field again, so rats :O I don't like how CTU has been worthless lately, though. Alternate leads aren't being used, and the storyline with Wayne seems to be slowly ongoing.

Jack's old man will probably crop up again later. Wonder what his aim was, though...

Shock and awe. :p For example: HOLY SHIT!

Oh, and awesome quoting: "Drop your weapon, or I will use mine!"

Or Jack's tutorial on how to use a gun: "You know how to use it? Point and shoot."

:tpg:

Great ep, but that really got me to Naz. What kind of line writing was that? At least say take the safety off or something lol.

I dunno, I thought last night's episode was pretty weak.
I also don't like the whole family dilemma but they got rid of it by bringing Logan back. I thought that was pretty dumb.
The only thing that got me excited was the twist on Tom. They lead you to believe he really would turn against the president since episode 1 but then he goes and contact SS and BAM that guy knocks him out. That scene just completely reversed my thoughts on Tom. I'm pretty sure that's what the producers wanted the audience to think too.

Now do you see why I disliked the episode everyone thought was great a few weeks ago? I knew this family connection would just lead to a divergent plot. There was absolutely no need for it.

I don't like that we don't get an explanation for Phil's departure nor his connection to Logan. Perhaps the latter comes next week along with Logan's connection to Gridenko.

This episode was a little disappointing, but not bad.

Phil's connection to Logan was spelled out last season, when Logan was taking orders from Graem. I'm more surprised that Logan managed to escape prison, unless he got a pardon from Wayne.

I can offer a pretty reasonable explanation for Jack's dad leaving.

Don't forget what he's touted all along. "He's a patriot". He's no different than the terrorists, it's just that he's backing the US. He probably realized that he's lost all of his power. His comany is a government target, so any of his would-be contacts probably view him as radioactive. Whether he likes his son's choices, methods, or association with the government he's smart enough to know that Jack has a better chance of stopping the crisis than he does. Think about it. What does he have to gain by killing Jack? Jack's potiential to stop the bombs is worth many many times more than his revenge, or other retalitory emotion. Furthermore, he can still use what little resources he has with or without killing Jack. His death just wasn't necessary.

Lastly, I don't understand the bitching about the family angle. Most of the past 24 episodes have Jack behaving like little more than a sentinel. While I certainly don't want a soap opera I don't see what's wrong with bringing a little humanity to the main character. Perhaps the word "humanity" isn't the precise word, but all action isn't a good thing either. It's good to see internal conflict, and friction which can't be quelled by gunshots. Each season may only be a day, but it's a little cold to have a recourring characher with 0 back story.

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I doubt Logan was jailed per se. He had the book thrown at him in private, but if his connection to the shitstorm in S5 got out, the presidency would've been ruined. It could've been done behind closed doors and the public was exposed to some bogus story. Or maybe he stepped down due to stress, supposedly.

He probably is moreso under house arrest of sorts, presently. But I could very well be wrong. You'll notice, though, that Jack's response to him wasn't along the lines of "why aren't you still in jail".

Wasn't Logan arrested during a press conference? That precludes him from just resigning due to stress. I'm sure they were able to cover up some of his involvement in S5, but there must have been some public punishment.