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YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Mar 14, 2007 08:25 PM

Damn I was really hoping it was real.

garthvadr3 Mar 14, 2007 08:43 PM

huh?
well anyway, kick ass fucking movie. I went with my friends last night expecting some testosterone filled action and I got exactly what I wanted and more. Awsome movie, awsome camara work and just a great sense of style. One of my friends said he thought the movie sucked so I told him that if he is a man and he doesn't like that movie that he is gayer than gay. then I made him watch this flash video: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/06/celebgay.html

chibilola Mar 14, 2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 413317)
LOL, that's hilarious, would have loved to have seen that! But man, after seeing the movie, you do kinda build up the testosterone. Haha, even my buddies said, as we exited the theatre, that they had an urge to start pushing people out of the way.

EDIT:

Oh and picked up the figures by NECA. Wish they gave Leonidas an angry roaring helmetless head instead, as it would haved looked so much better.

http://i15.tinypic.com/43hypon.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/404p0fn.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/2wdd74j.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/42ibtk2.jpg
http://i16.tinypic.com/2akbhjt.jpg

I was just watching all the clips and trailers on my 360 and my roomate mention that movie builds testosterone, and he bought the figures lie right after he saw the movie. lol I swear I thought you were my room mate lol.

Hantei Mar 15, 2007 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chibilola (Post 413394)
I was just watching all the clips and trailers on my 360 and my roomate mention that movie builds testosterone, and he bought the figures lie right after he saw the movie. lol I swear I thought you were my room mate lol.

lol, what a coincidence. Though, I'm sure the majority of viewers felt the same way, and went out to purchase the movie's merchandising as well.

One thing I noticed, upon my second viewing tonight, for only one time in the movie that it really seemed like there were 300 spartans (which was pretty much just the first battle). After the first day's battle, it just seemed like there only 30 or so for the rest of it (clear example would be the immortals battle). Heh, that really kinda bugged me as I thought there'd be a least half or so left after sustaining casualties.

Gecko3 Mar 16, 2007 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chibilola (Post 413263)
best story about 300 everrr.


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...pix/SPARTA.jpg


I would totally hurl a spear at some people.

LOL, if this really did happen, I would've loved to have seen that, as bad as it sounds.


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Originally Posted by Hantei
One thing I noticed, upon my second viewing tonight, for only one time in the movie that it really seemed like there were 300 spartans (which was pretty much just the first battle). After the first day's battle, it just seemed like there only 30 or so for the rest of it (clear example would be the immortals battle). Heh, that really kinda bugged me as I thought there'd be a least half or so left after sustaining casualties.

This is unfortunately a side-effect of telling large battles, whether on film or in images (aka comics). The numbers tend to fluctuate a lot (unless it really is a small force, like less than 10 guys), and my guess is that they cut down the number of soldiers you see because to be honest, the only one that you could really tell who it was is Leonidas (and even then, only because the camera focuses almost solely on him in most fights).

I would've loved to seen more Spartans getting hurt/killed throughout all the fighting, but if they threw all 300 of them (assuming none were killed or badly wounded yet), the fighting scenes would get pretty confusing after a while, and it'd be like watching a battle take place in a Total War game from far away.

Other war movies usually do stuff like this as well. For example, in Gladiator, the first battle focuses almost solely on Maximus (but you do get to see other soldiers fighting from time to time, and when you do, it gets kind of confusing as to what's going on exactly).

And in Saving Private Ryan, I don't remember how many soldiers the Americans had, but guys die left and right, including main characters, and more just seem to keep popping out of the woodwork, at least until the very end of the battle. And this is particularly true of the German soldiers. It seems like for every one that's killed, 3 more guys show up out of nowhere to take his place (almost like a WW2 shooter lol).

This is slightly less related, but really funny when you notice it. Watch action movies (particularly Jackie Chan ones) where the hero and maybe his sidekick approach some bad guys, or get approached by bad guys, and once the fighting starts, more bad guys just start spawning out of nowhere (sorry, video game reference again lol). In some cases, it makes you wonder where the heck those other guys were at the whole time lol. If you do a body count of how many guys get taken down, and then how many more guys show up, you'll notice some pretty funny stuff.

Hot Shots: Part Deux makes fun of this too. In one scene, the movie starts to keep track of how many bad guys the hero's killed, and then starts to compare the body count to other movies. And no matter how many bad guys he kills, more just come out of nowhere (of course, since this is a spoof movie, the "deaths" are pretty funny, and nothing really serious:

Spoiler:
like when the hero runs out of bullets, but sees a box of bullets in front of him. Instead of loading them into his gun, he simply picks some bullets, throws it at the bad guy, and that's enough to kill him.

And in another scene, one of the good guys has a sniper rifle, and looks like they're about to use it to shoot someone far away in what could be a very serious scene. When the camera pans out however, the front part of the rifle has a wooden mallet attached to it, and the far away guard is actually very close, to the point that he gets hit with the mallet.

One final one, which really has nothing to do with the topic, but it's really stupid and funny. When one of the bad guys comes out to fight, he has a banana. When the good guy grabs him, they fight and struggle with each other as if it's a knife, and the bad guy attempts to "stab" the good guy with it. The good guy can't overpower him right away, so he takes a bite of the banana, the beats the bad guy up lol.


Oh, and...

"This is Sparta!"

chibilola Mar 21, 2007 04:09 PM

hmm well it looks like theres more if you pay attention to the back, but the 30 or so you see on screen must be the actual 30 that they casted as soldiers. I mean with those pecks training more then 30 might get hard. As you can see on the spartan training clips on the 360, or youtube by now.

Gwenn83 Mar 21, 2007 04:33 PM

I saw the movie a bit ago...I left the theatre speechless. It was the most brilliant movie I had seen in a very long time.

Strahd Mar 21, 2007 07:22 PM

I enjoyed the movie very much when I saw it a couple of weeks ago. I thought it was one of the best movies I saw this year. I thought Xerxes was a bit funny though they way he talked and the way he stand/walk, but other than that a great film. :) Not historical accuring but great piece of work.

Paper Crane Mar 21, 2007 09:25 PM

Everything in this movie was epic. If you took all the slow motion shots and put them in real time the movie would probably be little more than an hour. There is a limit of how much epic you can put into a movie before it turns silly. This was a very silly movie. Also very homo-erotic. But I went to the theater expecting that, and I enjoyed it for the non thinking trash it was. But I couldn't stop laughing at all the epic-ness.
There should be a drinking game where whenever something obviously epic occurs, you take a shot. At least the plot would make sense nearing the end of the game.

Paco Mar 21, 2007 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Paper Crane (Post 416203)
There should be a drinking game where whenever something obviously epic occurs, you take a shot. At least the plot would make sense nearing the end of the game.

Way ahead of you, chief. We took a bottle of Goldschlager into the theater last time we went to see this and had my friends and I taking shots every time someone got impaled by a Spartan spear or every time Leonidas was screaming at the top of his lungs for seemingly no reason.

:beer:

I don't even want to imagine how badly we reeked of stale syrup liquor when we walked out.

makura Mar 22, 2007 01:53 AM

I can predict this now, a LOT of people are going to be Spartans for Halloween.
Also the trannies in SF here, will probably be dressed up as Xerxes :confused:

BTW, I barely recognized Rodrigo Santoro as Xerxes. He plays Paulo the new Lostie on Lost.

Vestin Mar 22, 2007 02:56 PM

Lol, I would love to see people dressing up as Spartans and looking ridiculous. I mean, all they really wore throughout the whole movie was some underwear and a cape. Kinda like Superman but without the Spandex.

Rockgamer Mar 22, 2007 03:19 PM

I saw this movie last weekend, and while it was awesome, I actually thought it would be a little more action-oriented than it actually was.

There really weren't that many battles throughout the entire film (maybe what, about 4 or 5 in total), and a lot of the non-battle stuff (especially the stuff back in the city with the Queen) really dragged down the film. So in the end, it's not that the film wasn't good, it's just that I overhyped it in my mind as being this action epic that it didn't turn out to be.

Vestin Mar 22, 2007 04:24 PM

I agree with you, Rock.

As funny as it sounds, I think they should have just left out pretty much ALL the story. It was annoying and generic and brought down the movie. They shouldn't have even bothered developing the Father and Son team they had going - I didn't think that had any place in the movie.

Also, the wife = slut.

AND

I didn't like the ending.

Spoiler:
There was no epic battle, nothing. OH and what happened to that fat dude that was executing the persian generals? That was one brutal son of a bitch and I was disappointed that he didn't return later in the flim to battle the spartans.

But yeah, about the epic battle... umm... yeah. There was no end. I didn't get the closure I wanted. There was no final boss, I guess.

Majin yami Mar 24, 2007 05:33 PM

Really enjoyed it. Why people seem to expect a deep movie with substance is cimpletely beyond me. It's an action film for Christs sake...

I was mostly comparing it to Apocalypto in that it's a really bloody film that doesn't make you think too much. It does exactly that. There are a few flaws in the film (the bits with the Queen really slowed the pace down and she was a bit meh) . However, the action scenes were superb. Apocalypto's the better film in terms of enjoyment, but 300 is the better made film. I certainly recommend it to anyone who likes a bit of blood and liked Apocalypto.

8.5/10

Spike Mar 24, 2007 11:05 PM

Not sure how old this is, but I thought some of you might enjoy this: http://poststuff5.entensity.net/0323...?media=300.wmv

arch_slayer Mar 25, 2007 03:20 AM

You people are overreacting to the fact that I don't like this movie that you all did. Grow up, people have different opinions. You think my opinion is jaded because I know more about film? Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? I'm not trying to validate anything. I'm trying to make my point clear to retards like you who think my feelings towards the film are baseless, and that I'm saying all this simply to "take the fun out of films." Fuck off. If I'm truly ruining your fun, then, well, I don't think there's much hope left for you. Why can't you assholes just accept the fact that some people see things differently than you? You people are such fucking cowards when it comes to opinions that don't match yours.[/QUOTE]

"Grow up, people have different opinions."

Why can't you assholes just accept the fact that some people see things differently than you? You people are such fucking cowards when it comes to opinions that don't match yours.

The irony.

I don't really care whether you did or did not like 300, but it's really kind of funny when all you can do is flame at somebody ;)

Anywho, I actually kept thinking about the political motivations and the hidden themes throughout the entire movie. I think the detraction to home compared to the battlefield is extremely relevant, even if the scene seemed somewhat "cheesy." Miller defines the different political boundaries--what constitutes necessary and unnecessary--in the different places. I'm especially intrigued by the somewhat allegorical element to the entire move. I've heard critics claim that the king is equal to bush, and I pretty much agree with the sentiment. I've heard people saying that this is the opposite (with Bush being the Persian God), but seriously, the comparison the stubbornness of the King to Bush, and the "tricks" of the terrorists have more parallels. That being said, I especially like the stark contrast between the victories and defeats held in battle, that battle is never a good thing but sometimes inevitable.

By the way, I did feel a certain degree of disbelief with the death of the son, more so because I spent the next 3 seconds staring at the bottom of that head trying to see if they did the guts properly ;)

Zip Mar 25, 2007 07:23 AM

I saw this and got kinda offended by it... It was a cool movie but at the end I didnt like how they made the Persians. Also releasing it on the persian new year is no way a coincident and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Genthar Mar 25, 2007 09:31 AM

This was easily one of the greatest movies of all time IMHO.

I had read Frank Miller's book about a year before they announced production on the film and I knew once I started seeing the production stills and trailers that they were going to do as good a job if not better than Sin City.

It did seem that the added a few bits in, but as one could read the Graphic Novel in less time than a movie would be, it was necessary. Queen Gorgo's speech to the Spartan council should be used by the Republican party to justify the War On Terror and even recruit more troops for OIF. Faramir, oh beg your pardon, Dilios' speech at the end would not have been out of place in a Shakesperian battle scene, it was that well written and inspiring and actually a superior ending to the source material.

I pray the powers at Hollywood don't have some daft idea about making some sort of sequel: "301":rolleyes:

Simo Mar 25, 2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Genthar (Post 418131)
I pray the powers at Hollywood don't have some daft idea about making some sort of sequel: "301":rolleyes:

Funnily enough Frank Miller is already ahead of them as he's working on a sequel to the book.

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Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 413317)
EDIT:

Oh and picked up the figures by NECA. Wish they gave Leonidas an angry roaring helmetless head instead, as it would haved looked so much better.

http://i15.tinypic.com/43hypon.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/404p0fn.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/2wdd74j.jpg
http://i15.tinypic.com/42ibtk2.jpg
http://i16.tinypic.com/2akbhjt.jpg

Those look so good. I've been trying to get my hands on Leonidas and Gorgo but they're practically sold out everywhere I go so I decided to just go ahead and order the whole set which should arrive Thursday. :)

Hantei Mar 25, 2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Simo (Post 418136)
Those look so good. I've been trying to get my hands on Leonidas and Gorgo but they're practically sold out everywhere I go so I decided to just go ahead and order the whole set which should arrive Thursday. :)

Oh wow, lol, I'm actually surprised about the Gorgo being a little hard to find, but yea, Leonidas is definitely the hardest to find. I picked up my set at my local comic shop and they had Leonidas priced at 7 bucks more than the rest (heh, though cause I picked up a set i only had to pay the same price as the rest for him).

Hopefully NECA makes another set, and perhaps will make another Leonidas with a roaring head.

Oh and I checked out the movie again yesterday, but this time on the IMAX. Though, I didn't really experience any 3D effects, it's probably cause I was sitting in the back row (theatre was pretty much full up by the time we got there)... I imagine the effects would be when the blood was splattering out towards the screen. Did anyone else happen to watch this on the IMAX? Were there any sequences that had the 3D visual effect?

Simo Mar 25, 2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 418446)
Oh wow, lol, I'm actually surprised about the Gorgo being a little hard to find, but yea, Leonidas is definitely the hardest to find. I picked up my set at my local comic shop and they had Leonidas priced at 7 bucks more than the rest (heh, though cause I picked up a set i only had to pay the same price as the rest for him).

Hopefully NECA makes another set, and perhaps will make another Leonidas with a roaring head.

Oh and I checked out the movie again yesterday, but this time on the IMAX. Though, I didn't really experience any 3D effects, it's probably cause I was sitting in the back row (theatre was pretty much full up by the time we got there)... I imagine the effects would be when the blood was splattering out towards the screen. Did anyone else happen to watch this on the IMAX? Were there any sequences that had the 3D visual effect?

Leonidas and Gorgo are always sold out unless you get the set so that's what I did. :p I can't see NECA expanding the line but there is room to do so if they go for figures of Xerxes, the Spartan captain and yes perhaps another version of Leonidas.

As for IMAX, 300 isn't an IMAX 3D show so no scenes are in 3D. IMAX just gives you the benefit of a bigger screen and a teeth-shattering sound system hence why I'd recommend an IMAX showing for 300 to everybody. :D

The Furious One Mar 27, 2007 06:10 PM

Just saw the movie, extremely pleased with it. None stop entertainment, wasnt bored and didnt look at my watch once!

The style and tone of the movie really reminds me of Fist of the North Star, they should remake that movie, it would be awesome.

LOL did anyone notice the TB jabs marks left on the shoulders. On some scenes it was really clear.

Gixah Mar 27, 2007 07:28 PM

I caught this a few days ago and I don't remember having this much fun in a theater since perhaps, well, Sin City! It's a shallow movie. It definitely does not require thinking, but for the sake of the movie I think that's the point. It's brutal and fun and people should drop the "It's commentary on the Bush administration/war in Iraq" crap. I also have to wonder how many times "Sparta" is said.

I actually had picked up NECA's Queen Gorgo before seeing this. Whatever comic/game/movie shop I head to, it seems King Leonidas is sold out.

BlueEdge Mar 29, 2007 12:35 AM

Was just listening to the soundtrack, but I can't seem to find the song they used in trailer 2, anyone know which one?


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