Crap, you keep posting right as I edit :P

Edit 2: Okay, moot point, IGN is reporting HDD will come standard out of the box, although they didn't cite any source so I dunno, but whatever I'll go with that. Wonder what the price will be; I can't seem them doing it at anything less than $449, I'm thinking $499 US now.

Unrelated, but Gamespot is reporting that the "6 million units" figure is through the fiscal year ending in March 07, not December 06, which dramatically changes how I view all of this if true -_-.

Finally, some new info on the camera attachment. I can't flippin wait to get that -- I will SO buy into that gimmick, so long as I can take pictures as well. That'd be so great. What would be even better is if it could also work on the PC. Here's hoping.

I got a little :tpg: goin when I read that the PS3's hard drive will be mounted on the Linux OS. It's like a poking war between Sony and Microsoft.

"Hey guess what? I'm usin LINUX."
"Wut? Use Windows, fool."
"I'm just doin it to piss you off. -poke-" >__>;

Edit: Fuck it, I'll still pay $500 for the box. I want my PS3.

Yeah, but look at how much they charge for the Xbox HD, even PS2 memory cards are insanely expensive for the storage capacity. If the HDD is not standard, I totally seem them doing the system at $399, then releasing the HDD as a $99 accessory.

Australia being included in "worldwide" this time has been confirmed

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Cont...3&NewsAreaID=2

Still, no games announced. Is Sony going to launch ANOTHER system with Hot Shots Golf and Ridge Racer? I guess we're going to have to wait til E3.

Oh I get it. You'll buy a gimmick but only if its from Sony.

And are the $40 webcams for PC that have been around for 5 years not cool enough for you?

I can't go without commenting on this.

First, I was unaware that Oblivion came out. I am quite certain that its next week tuesday since I have been following the game since it was announced.
And if that was the case, why don't the reviews mention this pausing of the game lol.

Two, what the fuck game are you talking about on the 360.

$425 Minimum? Are they out of their gravy-coated gourds?

No, that's not what I said. Way to miss what I was getting at.

He was asking what the hell are you trying to say. I couldn't understand your question either.

No. Here's the difference -- bongos have no use outside of three games. A camera on the other hand would, as (like I stated in my post if you'd take the time and read it) long as I could use it like a standard camera. I would also expect it to, upon connecting to a wireless network, be able to transfer images to another PSP.

That's actually something useful. Compared to, you know, a bongo. Don't start this shit again with me Berto, please?

Yes, because trying to understand what "Why?" means is SO FUCKING DIFFICULT.

It will most likely be 399$ here in the US. But that's still alot cheaper than friggin 500$. And at 399 it's the same as the 360.

Good news is that Sony doesn't want the confusion of multiple bundles, there will be one PS3 for sale and it will come with the 60GB hard drive, if IGN are to be believed.

You know, in your last two posts of being an ass, you could have actually cleared it up and stopped the confusion yourself. Now it continues!

Understanding the question and understanding a word in the question are two different things, Elixir.

I don't think he had any difficulty understanding what the word "why" means, I think the issue is that you're not making any sense nor giving any proper explanation what you are asking "why" about.

I asked "why?" because I didn't know "why" they excluded AU/NZ regions when it's meant to be a worldwide release.

Since worldwide release means, well, global. Everywhere. So to answer your question, I wanted to know why it didn't include down under.

STOP RUINING IT.

I dunno, the PSP was a lot cheaper in Japan than in the US.

$499 might just as likely be the US price.

For reference, I think the CD-i was $499

Double Post:
Additionally WTF Eyetoy PSP? How would such an idea even work? The only thing you'd see is your pasty face on the screen. what, would you wink at the sumbitch?

And it certainly is nice to see Sony finally catch up to the Handheld technology Nintendo got tired of in 1998 with the Gameboy Camera.

I see, well that does explain it better. SD obviously misunderstood your question and thought you were asking why he didn't know what they have planned for NZ, to which you replied "That's not what I said, moron."

I don't think he knows why either though. I'm really not surprised about it myself. I have no doubt the "worldwide release" of PS3 will be magically a month or so late in Europe as well.

You lads were so busy arguing that you seem to have missed this:

Of course, Sony could be lying.

Well, I didn't call him a moron, but whatever floats your boat.

Sony doesn't lie. They just announce something, delay it, and explain why. That isn't lying exactly, that's more like, business.

I'll just be happy if the PS3 is released globally within some month of 2006. Waiting until 2007 is boring.

Ok, so PS3 is launching this year. LoL. So where are the games.

Also, the fact that it will include a 60GB HD means that it will cost no less than $500. It's over.

But that price doesn't bother me if I can play AC04 in 720p.

At least if the hard drive is required for games to run, we won't have to sit through insane load times with the 1x speed of the BD drive.

Would it matter, really? Idiots will still camp out in front of stores if it sells for 600$ and more sensible people don't buy consoles at first release anyway.

The P$3 won't come out till 2007 in Europe, why lie, just watch when they announce the next delay, Sony has a history of screwing us over.

Face it people Sony lie.

If they do release it in Novemeber, it seems they are rushing it even more than Microsoft were especially seeing as they haven't even finalised the Blu-Ray technology that will run under the hood. All I can say is that it better not have a stupid online service, which I'm worried it will.

I think this will be the PS2 launch all over again where you buy the console and it doesn't turn on, then have to wait weeks for a replacement.

What is this? Megalith 2.0?

Hell, I'm glad that Sony says that P$3 (lololol, look what I did there. The $-sign insinuates that Sony likes money. How clever I am!) reaches Europe this year, but if it doesn't, I won't get mad. No one in their right minds would actually dare thinking such a thing. (Thinking and hoping - two different things)

I want to see the European price, as it's the only thing I can really calculate with. The cheapass american price only serves as a reminder of how expensive everything is in Europe (Or Denmark...)

Sorry but waiting 9 weeks (after numerous complaints) for a replacement PS2 leaves a bitter after taste, especially after getting it a year later than those damn fuckers with the squinty eyes, it didn't even turn on. People blasted the 360 release that was nowhere near as bad as the UK PS2 launch in my opinion, to be honest I don't expect it to be much different for the PS3.

I'd take a guess at £500 for a PS3 pack inluding the hardrive, anything more would just be pricing out too many people. But even I think anything above £350 is too much, but from the outset they have always underlined that it would be expensive. So most people are screwed, I may pick it up at launch I'm not sure, I get a month off at Christmas so I suppose it would keep me entertained.....maybe.