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immp Nov 30, 2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by trackjacket (Post 542182)
They need to bring back Saffron City from the original. Probably my favorite stage in the series.

This is a pretty neat update, though. I'm guessing just a simple re-skinning was all that went into this. I'm sure there'll be many more "classic" stages to help bolster Brawl's overall stage count.

I think what they changed the hieght in the cave and looks like they lowered the very bottom plateform. Maybe to suit the jumping in brawl....if its any higher or anything.

I'm totally with you on saffron city, I loved that one. If it doesnt come back you could always build it but it'd still be missing that awesome random pokemon door =(

KnowsNothing Nov 30, 2007 07:56 PM

I disliked the Temple stage because of the camera issues: too much zooming + health meter right in the fucking way.

Sin Ansem Nov 30, 2007 10:53 PM

Nice update, but good god they need to confirm the 64 levels. I want Peach's castle back!

Joe Wiewel Nov 30, 2007 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowsNothing (Post 542526)
I disliked the Temple stage because of the camera issues: too much zooming + health meter right in the fucking way.

I had a big problem with the damage percentage getting in the way on the Past Stages Yoshi's Island stage, especially when you were on the bottom and a character was hit to the upper right.

But, if you watched the videos of the Brawl game play that was recorded at that E3-for-all event, the damage percentage and character icon becomes transparent whenever it touches one of the players, so that problem has been fixed.

Speaking of those E3-for-all Brawl videos.... was I the only one that was irritated by the people playing? Talk about a bunch of scrubs! Constantly ignoring items, horrible fighting skills.... An inexperienced 12 year old could kick their asses! The videos brought me more irritation than satisfaction.

Black Mage Nov 30, 2007 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Wiewel (Post 542641)
Speaking of those E3-for-all Brawl videos.... was I the only one that was irritated by the people playing? Talk about a bunch of scrubs! Constantly ignoring items, horrible fighting skills.... An inexperienced 12 year old could kick their asses! The videos brought me more irritation than satisfaction.

Yeah, it's not like they were playing a completely new game for the first time ever. Melee and Brawl may have some similarities, but those who've played it have confirmed that they both play and feel much different.

Even watching videos from some of the "celebrated Melee players" playing Brawl made them look pretty amateurish. It'll take more than a couple of 2-minute time matches to gain proficiency with the game.

Anyway, inline with today's update, I have to agree with whomever said they'd like to see revamped stages from the original game. Saffron City, or the larger Corneria/Great Fox would be awesome.

Joe Wiewel Dec 2, 2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Mage (Post 542647)
Yeah, it's not like they were playing a completely new game for the first time ever.

Yes, that's true, and I understand that, but what I was referring to was how a lot of them seemed to run way from their opponents, attack nothing but the air, or totally ignore interesting items, like assist trophies and items that weren't in Melee. I don't know, maybe it's because I'm kind of an item whore and used to running up and concentrating on pummeling my opponents directly instead of using hit and run tactics like they seemed to be doing. :/

Anyway, wouldn't it be funny if tonight's update went something like this:

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I have some bad news folks, we have decided to change the release date once again.

Instead of pushing it back further, it has been changed to...

DECEMBER 3RD, 2007!

Which means Brawl can be found at your local retail store at this very moment!

That's right! It was all a lie!

PSYCH!
Too bad that will never happen. :(

Zeta26 Dec 3, 2007 12:58 AM

Indeed. *sighs* Oh well, at least there's other Wii games to tie us over. Like Radiant Dawn or S.C Legends.

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Speaking of those E3-for-all Brawl videos.... was I the only one that was irritated by the people playing? Talk about a bunch of scrubs! Constantly ignoring items, horrible fighting skills.... An inexperienced 12 year old could kick their asses! The videos brought me more irritation than satisfaction.
Yeah, it was pretty disappointing. And the worse part of those trailers were also the screaming girls.

Edit: 12/3/2007


Joe Wiewel Dec 3, 2007 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeta26 (Post 543922)
And the worse part of those trailers were also the screaming girls.

No kidding. I would have been there, I would have told them to shut the hell up.

Anyway, today's update tells you how to create a friends list before setting everything up before battling online. Quite frankly, it's a lot to post, so check it out yourself.

It sort of satisfied my curiosity on how the online battling part would work, but I'm still feening for more info on the actual content of the game, just as long as it's nothing that has to be unlocked.

Zeta26 Dec 3, 2007 02:22 AM

Well, this was gonna happen sooner or later. This' assuming anybody would be willing to challenge people online.

FatsDomino Dec 3, 2007 02:37 AM

I like Nate's message. =)

"Real men use items!"


Sass is brawling =D

Chaotic Dec 3, 2007 04:03 AM

My response to Nate: "You're a fucking pussy for using items."

Anyway, they really are just milking it now.

::sigh::

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME OUT TODAY. ARGH.

The Plane Is A Tiger Dec 3, 2007 04:26 AM

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9156/smashlw2.jpg

Sass is only mailing out all those hats and scarves to avoid suspicion over her advance copy of Brawl! :mad:

Para Dec 3, 2007 08:08 AM

I lol at "Grit" aka another name for Liberals (Main party colour: Red) for Mario XD

Zeta26 Dec 3, 2007 11:07 AM

lol Well, it can't be helped Chaotic. As much as I'd also like it to come today as well. The game wouldn't be totally finished. Plus that only some of the features would be implemented. And only at 22 characters.

Wouldn't you want this game in it's finished stage. With like 30 or so characters and all features.

Sin Ansem Dec 3, 2007 12:12 PM

There's some famitsu links that give a general "I knew this already" but important fact that says there are a lot more characters than people imagined. 35 or less is actually a stingy estimate. I predict 40 slots in all.

Zeta26 Dec 3, 2007 12:19 PM

Wow, 30+ characters eh? That's way more than C.o.N Revolution's 20, muchless Bleach's 32 character roster.

Krelian Dec 3, 2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sin Ansem (Post 544128)
There's some famitsu links that give a general "I knew this already" but important fact that says there are a lot more characters than people imagined. 35 or less is actually a stingy estimate. I predict 40 slots in all.

...

Feel like... You know, sharing? :eye:

Zeta26 Dec 3, 2007 12:35 PM

Yeah dude, do you have the link that says this?

Chaotic Dec 3, 2007 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeta26 (Post 544110)
lol Well, it can't be helped Chaotic. As much as I'd also like it to come today as well. The game wouldn't be totally finished. Plus that only some of the features would be implemented. And only at 22 characters.

Wouldn't you want this game in it's finished stage. With like 30 or so characters and all features.

Yeah, I know. But to think, when May rolled around, this is the day we were all hoping for. :(

WraithTwo Dec 3, 2007 04:37 PM

I'd tend to agree that the roster will be 35+. We have 23 characters revealed so far, and several shoe-ins that haven't (Falcon, Jigglypuff, Luigi and I'm convinced that Ness is still around). Furthermore, with the events update, it seems most likely that all the characters revealed thus far are available from the very beginning (with the possible exception of the 2 third party chars).

With a bigger main cast (melee had 24 total characters IIRC), I'm sure the unlockables will be expanded as well. So yeah, I'd say 40 sounds about right for this installment.

Divest Dec 3, 2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Wiewel (Post 541843)
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What the fuck are you talking about? Jigglypuff will probably be a secret character and there's not a snowball's chance in hell of all of the characters being announced.

I highly doubt, for some reason, that they're going to bring back Jigglypuff, which was widely regarded as one of the worst characters in the game. I'll be happy if they bring back Jigglypuff with the same move set, but I highly doubt it. THEN AGAIN (disclaimer here) I'm just a pessimist. And yes, I have heard about some of the developers making a mention of Jiggylpuff here and there, but I'm just still skeptical.

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And, most of the time, there's an easy way to get around "edge checking." Just keep going as far the character can go toward the ledge without using the B-up move and then use it when it's absolutely necessary to make a recovery. Most of the time, the character will come up straight up or almost straight up instead of coming straight over, making it very difficult for opponents to meteor strike you or knock you back.
What are you talking about? Up-B is different for every character and going as close as possible to the ledge is the worst fucking idea ever if you're trying to avoid edge-checkers. If you're talking about Link then I can see how his Up-B would be useful in the recovery, everybody knows that, but what does that have to do with avoiding getting edge checked by Marth?

Chaotic Dec 3, 2007 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Divest (Post 544268)
I highly doubt, for some reason, that they're going to bring back Jigglypuff, which was widely regarded as one of the worst characters in the game. I'll be happy if they bring back Jigglypuff with the same move set, but I highly doubt it. THEN AGAIN (disclaimer here) I'm just a pessimist. And yes, I have heard about some of the developers making a mention of Jiggylpuff here and there, but I'm just still skeptical.

:wrong:

Mewtwo is the worst character in the game.

Either way, Jigglypuff is way too good of a character to lose. Either way, she's been the first easy unlock ever since the first one, so I don't see why she wouldn't return under the same conditions.

And I doubt her moveset would change much... There's not a whole lot you could change off of that anyway.

Divest Dec 3, 2007 05:39 PM

If you go back and re-read the sentence that you bolded, it said one of the worst. I, personally, think Ice Climbers was the worst character(s), but it's all a matter of opinion, honestly.

Chaotic Dec 3, 2007 05:52 PM

Yes, and I respect your opinion.

But I actually like using the Ice Climbers... Ever since I learned how to wavedash, they've been a crapload of fun to use since you could just glide across the stage with them.

But taking that tier list to heart, I do have to agree that Mewtwo is horrible. Worst Down+A smash attack in the game since it only goes in one direction, and for being one of the most powerful Pokemon in the game, he's KOed awfully easy.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Dec 3, 2007 05:59 PM

While I totally hate the strict tier system wannabe "professionals" advocate, I am highly, HIGHLY amused (although completely unsurprised) by everyone's complete and utter stupidity regarding game mechanics here.

There's a LAWL ITEMS post half way up this page. On the 66th page of the thread. Do we REALLY NEED TO GO THERE AGAIN? For the love of Christ. We get it. Some of you want to pretend you're professional. Shut the hell up, no one gives even half a shit that you're some Dylan Tnga wannabe.

And there's Divest going around like he's actually played the game before. Lick my fucking balls, cockclown. Stop going around like you have any clue what you're talking about. Joe did a good job debunking your old post, and now you're talking about Jigglypuff's validity as a useful character. Good fucking Lord.

Why must every large thread degenerate into this garbage. It's like some sort of unholy combination of 15 different kinds of bullshit in here.


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