I would love to see that eBay rule go through. Not that I have anything against anyone here, and I love laughing at people who pay WAY too much for stuff. But at the same time I don't think that it's right... for many reasons.

Secondly I may, or may not be getting a PS3 at launch, however I will be getting a Wii at launch and I'll just play around with that until I get my PS3, seeing how 1.5 million units are supposed to ship in the two nonths following the PS3's release, which is a little less then half the amount of 360s sould to date I do believe.

I don't fucking like the people who do that. That really, really pisses me off that people do that sorta thing. Wouldn't you be extremely pissed off to be, say #11 in line, and the 10th guy got the last one only to sell it on eBay for a 300% mark-up? I'd beat his ass and steal his PS3. Hell, if he told me about it before he got his, I'd beat his ass and steal his spot in line!

My thoughts exactly. I just didn't want to put it in such detailed words ^^;
However after reading your nicely discriptive post I feel like beating up some guys in God Hand... aw crap, I don't have that yet. Guess Beat Down will just have to do.

eBay is already clamping down on PS3 auctions by removing listings and suspending the sellers responsible. Sony is supposebly going to keeping an eye on eBay too so that any auctions that use their copyright, IE images or product descriptions, then they'll have them pulled.

WTF. Why?

Calm down there boy. This is a video game console, not a transplant organ. Oh, and, you already stole somebody's spot in line.

Waiting in line for this kind of stuff drives me up a wall. I'm sure not everyone will agree with me on this, but it is so damn childish and juvenile.

There's a difference -- my advantage comes form being an employee. Employees who buy and resell like that get fired.

Still, it aggravates me to no end to see people do that. It's under-handed and highway robbery. After Hurricane Katrina, police stations were shutting down gas stations who were doing what's known as "price gouging." This is the same thing -- buying up a limited supply of something and selling it back at an exhaustingly high price. And it's wrong.

I'm not price gouging though. People are voluntarily coughing up that amount of money for the system. I'm simply making it available to the highest bidder.

I agree to an extent. If your purpose is to make money off of it by auctioning it off, then I don't think that it's childish. Camping out because "OMG I'VE GOT TO HAVE A PS3 LAUNCH DAY!!!!" is ridiculous though. Were I not wanting to make some quick cash, I'd be waiting probably at least a year before I bought one.

Getting stuff day one is exciting though, you can look forward to all sorts of cool system faults and spending hours on the phone with tech-support! :dopey_love:

So is buying a PS3 for the entire purpose of selling it on ebay for your own profit, but people won't learn.

Seriously, don't do it. I can't stop you, but it isn't right. People will legitimately be bidding on PS3 auctions in a desperate attempt to obtain one before christmas, people will be boycotting them with 0 feedback accounts, people will be selling PS3 stickers, emails, hats, dogs, pens, and everything under the moon when it comes the time.

It's basically going to be a clusterfuck of aids. Everyone likes money, but the PS3's so popular you won't be able to resell them.

That's still price gouging though Muck. Even if consumers are willing to pay that price, you're knowingly over-charging them for it (if you yourself are reselling PS3s. If not, consider "you" a general statement). And I still don't like that, either way you slice it. We'll agree to disagree for argument's sake though, since this is an entirely subjective discussion.

In other news, even though all the PS3 reserves went out, nobody preordered any games. :( There were, though, four accessories we could've preordered, one of which was a wireless Logitech controller for $40.

EXACTLY! That's why I wait. Oh, and the fact that I have a huge amount of games from the previous system to play... oh, and I don't care about videogames that much.

It's not even just about the money, but also the fact that they HAVE to have their PS3 on opening day. They can't wait a couple weeks. So they wait like slaves outside a store for 2 days. It isn't morally wrong, but I personally find it pathetic.

How exactly is it childish? Mean, perhaps. But childish? Come on.

Double Post:
It's amusing though. Just like all of those people that camped out for weeks for Star Wars.

Okay.

Let's say somebody buys a PS3 on launch. They've sold out of consoles america-wide on the first day. You can't purchase them in stores until they've restocked, which won't happen for a few weeks. But, you have one. So, you stick an auction on ebay with an insane profit margin.

Meanwhile, half of the kids in america still want one. They have their parents, with credit cards, hop on ebay in hopes to purchase one. They're aware the price is higher than purchasing one from a store, but they still do it. And in the process, you have people ruining people's chances of getting one through ebay thanks to boycotting.

And then you have the person with the PS3, who either gets a slap in the face thanks to boycotting (which is bound to happen on every single PS3 auction to ever be listed), or you have some poor parent paying way too much for something, just because their kid wants it now. It's like taking candy from a baby.

How is this not childish? You're not meant to purchase something deliberately to turn around and sell it for such an insane profit. And people just know this will happen, so instead of enjoying what you have, you profit from the situation which wouldn't even take place if Sony had supplied more units.

Like I said, I can't stop you, but it's extremely childish. The same could be said if a store was selling PS3s for double the price, but I don't expect to see that happen. Most people will either be able to get one, or not get one. I can't see ebay coming into the picture at all.

The funny part is when people pitch tents outside of stores and stay there for more than one day. I can't believe people actually do that. I don't claim to have the most action-packed life, nor would I want an action-packed life. I'm actually quite reserved and low key. But I don't have that kind of free time to sit outside a store for 2 days in a fucking tent. I have a job to work, I have things to do, etc. Maybe if it was something like a pair of Superbowl tickets I could do it. But the PS3 reships every few weeks. You'll eventually get one.

I never understood the frenzy to have to get things RIGHT away. That isn't even including people who resell them. The people who don't resell them, sometimes get the system and don't even buy games for it. They just want it to brag to their online friends, and have it just to have it.

Again, maybe it's just me. I've always been patient with things like that. I'd understand if it is a kid, but when you see these 35 year olds waiting in tents, I lose respect for society. Just imagine your dad or someone of that age waiting outside of a store for 2 days in a tent for a video game system. To me it is disgraceful. People need to seriously grow up.

People boycotting auctions??? How are people not bidding on your thing going to prevent you from selling to the ones that will?

No, you don't understand. People will boycott the auctions by bidding on them with recently created ebay accounts to high prices. It really isn't difficult to understand what's going to happen here. People will simply bid with absolutely no intention on purchasing the product listed, just to ruin the PS3 auctions for others.

It happened for the 360. I'm just assuming it'll happen again, except there's so much hype for the PS3, it's just bound to happen.

Also: http://cgi.ebay.com/Playstation-3-Pr...QQcmdZViewItem

I hope Sony do everything they can to prevent the reselling of PS3s on Ebay. It's morally a pretty low thing to do but I'm even more surprised there aren't some sort of laws in place that prohibit this practice. I'm not certain but I mean I don't think it's legal to say round up as many PS3s as you can on launch day and then sell them out the back of your van downtown with a 500% markup. I just feel bad for the honest parents hoping to put a PS3 under the christmas tree and having to pay some shithead who's too lazy to work for a living like the rest of world.

I love it. Those losers are probably crying. I HAVE TO RELIST, THIS ISN'T FAIR!!

Quoted for 1000% truth. Seeing how the PS2 had it's share of bugs, I'd like to see the reviews and ratings and trouble spots for the PS3.

Wow. That has to be fake... nobody actually paid 1 million for that thing.

Well, look who bought it - someone with a 0 feedback score. Even though I doubt someone needs to boycott that one...