LoL Yeah, but also remember that TNA and ROH aren't working together anymore

They're working together about as much as TNA and WWE are working together, but it doesn't mean that they can't acquire someone from ROH to turn into something special considering the amount of talent that ROH has.

Like the WWE, TNA has a problem pushing younger and more company-loyal guys that have been stuck at the upper mid-card now forever. That's really why I've stopped watching both promotions, and haven't really been serious about wrestling in months.

I dunno...TNA has really been pushing Abyss, as well as Joe. I'm actually enjoying this whole Joe vs. Angle angle. I'm just hoping that Joe actually wins at Hard Justice

The way I see it. . . when Vince was doing the whole fued with Bobby over the ECW title, looked as though it could have led to a Umaga face turn to me.

You know... being used as nothing but a tool and not gaining much in the process. Blahblah, goes nuts on boss blah blah.

Santino got booed off the face of the planet and Umaga got cheered through the roof at Vengeance, which now is as about as close as it'll feel with him going face.

Yes...no one liked Rosey...considering the whole S.H.I.T. thing was classic...as well as the whole superhero gimmick. And he never connected with the Audience which is why people were upset when they found out Hurricane and Ro-Z split up

This is called WWE trying to cover their asses so they don't look bad.

Because we all know LawLi has the biggest set of moves ever...umm...chop, chop, chop, boot, kick, overhead chop, pin. Oh wait...now he has the iron claw...yippee

Looks like they may continue the limo bombing angle tonight on Raw, with Vince claiming he set the limo bomb and faked his own death. Look for Mr. Kennedy to be pushed as apart of this angle too. (if they still decide to go with it)

Also, this may be the start of the end of the tri-brand shit. Because apparently they held a meeting and this was one of the things discussed about trying to get ratings back. GOOD.

Why the hell would they go back to the limo story? The whole thing was weird and sucked to begin with. However, Vince faking his own death sounds reasonable but good luck trying to explain why. I know someone on here suggested the idea that Triple H did it and I liked their idea better. The only other way it could've worked as well but probably had no chance in hell of happening...the one who blew up the limo was Bret Hart just so he could get revenge on the Montreal Screwjob.

dagget, I'm sorry to say that I've heard the tri-brand ending before...but this time I'm really hoping they do it. If it turns true then here's what I hope they do with some of the titles.

WWE title and Heavyweight title - As much as I would hate to see it again, Cena vs. Khali with the winner unifying the titles. Honestly, you guys could do better with this one then I can.

ECW title - Turned into the hardcore title with the 24/7 rule in effect. That shit was awesome.

Haven't we like..said that the tri brand thing was going to end like...8 or 9 times...~thinks~ stemming back to when the hardys won the titles.

I really don't want it to end now because the last thing I need is to hear a 30 minute rant from nitro, followed by a 20 minute boo fest of cena then spending 3 hours listening to Lawli...basically him "speaking" for 10 mins and me spending 3:hours trying to figure out what the hell he said.

The WWE needs to do the following to get high ratings all across the board

:RAW:
Take the belt of Cena and create a big feud between Orton, Kennedy and like..Carlito. In this time, push Kennedy as a face heel (since he gets a lot of approval from the crowd) push Orton as a big time heel player and make Carlito a tweener with his stunts of attacking btoh face and heels.

Spark a feud between a face HHH and heel Booker T with HHH jabbing Booker and making fun of his 5time thing.

Tag team turmoil match between Cade & Murdoch, Highlanders, Cryme Time, WGTT, London and Kendrick and have a shocking appearance by The James Boys (KC James and Kassidy James (Kassidy Riley))

Move the Miz over to Raw, have him attack Umaga at a vital point, say he just got Reality Checked and start a feud there with Miz causing random acts of funny and having Umaga get all angry. (Kind of like Eddie Gurrero "punking" The Big Show during their feud)

:ECW:
Fire Viscera
Rehire Axl Rotten and put him back with Mahoney
Hire Mike Awesome and Masato Tanaka and start an old school feud there.
bWo
Bring Sinn from OVW and put him in a stable with Mordecai..err...Kevin Thorn or bring back the Mordecai gimmick but have him be beat down by like...~thinks~ I hate to say it but the Boogeyman or have Gangrel come back, force Kevin Thorn into a "weaker" role then having Thorn mutiny and become Moredcai

:SD!:
Take the strap of LawLi or do something because Batista running after everyone is getting tiresome.
Push MVP into a bigger role because he'd be a good hit if he started to get pushed for main event because he is the MVP
Change MVP's attire
Either put the Hardys back together or put Moore and Hardy together since apparently Moore's punk gimmick got dropped (which was getting really good...in TNA anyways)
Bring Burchall back to the Main roster and feud him with Finlay
Remove the high risk move ban and have more Cruiserweight action because if they don't, TNA will have much more interest in the high risk stunts than WWE

Take what you will from it. Also Idol Stevens is fired and the Vince is Dead angle will probably open tonight's Raw. :|

I bet those low ratings are largely due to people being tired of Cena.

The brand split was a bad idea from day one. With all of then together, you can create more interesting fueds instead of reusing the same ones over and over again.
Just out of curiosity, but why? Granted he has not been much since the breakup of the ministry, but there's still room for improvement.

looool or not... not! :tpg:

Yeah, what the hell was that? For once, I was hoping somebody good was gonna be the General Manager. Sandman would've been awesome, I would've settled for Hacksaw to do it too.

ahaha. Irwin R Shyster, that was awesome.

I loved it when he and Gangrel came back together for the two matches they had, after that he kinda just went down hill...and give me a break...he's now running scared of The Boogeyman? I mean seriously, and what the hell is he wearing? Fuck, give him back the MOM gimmick

I'm loling over here. Seriously. :tpg:

Funniest part of Raw I've seen in a while.

Also, is Santino making a heel turn? I thought someone on here mentioned it a while back and I was surprised at first. Now, I'm starting to believe it.

Yeah, Santino's being turned heel. Umaga's face turn should be coming in the next few weeks. He's getting big pops now. Or it could be starting tonight lawl

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!



I'm dying here, seriously. This is too crazy not to love.

IRS was on RAW? Man I really wish I could have monday nights off. And there there dagget, put your lungs back in your chest cavity. I can just imagine how hard I'd be laughing.

Looks like theres some hope for the WWE yet.

Well IMO the angle started because of the fans reaction towards him at Vengeance. He got booed worst than Cena, and Umaga nearly pulled off a standing ovation. It was a really wierd experience. He's inexperienced, underweight for his class - he wont make it at all.

The problem with Santino is he came out as a fan who seemingly won the IC title from someone who had beaten various legends and world champions, as well as squashed many others.

Okay...Umm..I honestly couldn't find a purpose in that statement lol

Santino came out as a "fan" but remember he was already under contract to WWE. He was in OVW wrestling when they brought him up.

Also, here's a nice tidbit on Gangrel:

According to a reliable source, Idol Stevens was flown to Raw last night and was supposed to re-debut and when he wasn't written on the show, Stevens told WWE officials he was done.

Also, the current plan for the Bastard McMahon is: looool

OOOmanga.. thats hilarious shit Regal.

I think an OOOmanga face turn would make RAW much more interesting to watch for awhile. Seriously its been dead boring shit lately.

The conclusion to Vince's faked death was ok...though we won't see the end of the Vince arc anytime soon with his summons.

Hopefully HHH will also makes things interesting again too.

Hmm...okay, heres an interesting thought...would you prefer

Umanga
or
Umager lol

I'm interested as to whether or not the "mom" will come into play as well and "who" she will be.