You misunderstand me. Blizzard won't let Illidan get killed by any schmoe named "Pewpndoodoo." Not 25, not 40. If Illidan gets offed, it'll be in the next Warcraft RTS that comes out... assuming one ever does.

Nah, I'm sure they'll let us kill Illidan or The Lich King(Forgot his name).

So since all the racial leaders have been killed, that'll have to be in the next Warcraft RTS as well?

It's not like anything in WoW has to be canon.

Illidan will probably "run away" and we get a chest or something (like with Domo). I hit 66, working on 67 PAINFULLY. Gah. But I've been having sorta fun now. If I can hit 70 soon I can try and begin my Karazhan key.

You're thinking of Arthas, but he's on the continent of Northrend in Azeroth (not currently in the game).

That'd be pretty fucking lame of Blizzard to shaft players out of killing Illidan in WoW, especially as he is the main villian in Outland and the BC expansion. It should be a 25 man to take him out, and I'd be plenty pissed if they'd decide to do that (though I want to kill Arthas more than Illidan -- or even go into the Emerald Dream and find Shan'do Stormrage).

I doubt very much that we'll ever be able to kill any of those major NPCs. I've never been that far in naxx, but I heard Kel'Thuzad escapes, and i'm sure it will be the same for Illidan and Arthas, if you ever get to fight them.

I have no doubt that a WC4 is planned where all of the familiar heroes will duke it out. Especially Illidan and Arthas. I'd be disappointed if they did it in WoW.

Kael'Thas and Vasj are probably not that important and are killable, in fact in the wow modelviewer kael's model has a unique death animation, same with vasj. Arthas and Illidan's model aren't there yet.

Yeah, well I still want to kill both of them..... Regardless.

Maybe they'll make a WC4 yes, and then an expansion to WoW to follow that storyline but I sitll want to kill him!

Maybe they'll have thrall and the leaders become summon and say, hey, your time is up and WITH the help of Thrall and them, they die.That way if they make a WC4 or some expansion to WoW. They can let us have the pleasure of downing someone. Besides like said earlier, all the racial leaders are downable.

And yes, I'm a Horde junkie, so sue me.

I want to see some killage of the major players by the guild <STDsrBOP>

That'll be endgame right there, wow will quit on itself.

I'd be playing WoW nonstop, but it seems as if the game hates my computer. Shame, I was level 30.

Zulthrash - 46 Troll Warrior

Coerced back to the game after a long hiatus by coworkers. Druids are beasts now. They were already awesome before, now they are just sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl0PQHT34_0

I want guild/player housing, now.

Kel'Thuzad dies, but he has died once before and was ressurected with relative ease. The "Onyxia head" of the KT encounter is a jar full of his remains. All it takes is a little hocus pocus and he'll be back to his boney self again. :tpg:

Test realms are up again and so are the patch notes:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patch...atchnotes.html if you want to check them out. Sure glad I don't play my priest anymore.

So... to summarize:

Warriors got buffed in both PVE and PVP, and will have another PVP buff coming as soon as they can figure out the mechanics.

Shamans got buffed in PVE, and in PVP... so long as you're fighting a complete retard. But hey, no more totem-kill mods ('cause I'm preeetty sure that checking for stoneclaw totem and not killing it is prohibited in the new UI mod interface).

Priests got nerfed. WTF?

Feral druids got the nerfbat lovin'. Armor is a minor nerf (not really, since apparently people were getting near the damage reduction cap in greens and blues), and HP changes are either a minor nerf or a buff (not sure which)... but the mangle changes and Savage Fury affecting white attacks are a MAJOR nerf. Like a 10-20% DPS nerf. So much for feral druids being good tanks... although it WAS rather unfair to warriors that a druid could tank about as well as a prot warrior (for far less effort) and DPS VERY competitively by speccing into a single tree.

Overall, though, I hope that's not all the changes for shamans they're doing. I sorta wish that the stun applied to all totems except Grounding and maybe Earthbind... although what I'd like more is an anti-CC in the vain of The Beast Within. :eagletear:

It's about time Warriors got some kind of buff for once, however I'm sure it won't last too long. Someone will cry nerf about warriors again and Blizzard will just knock us down a few notches. :\

68 now. *sigh* such.. a pain and chore to level.

Had a 55 in guild who had quests in scholo. So we decided to run him through. 68 Arms warrior (me) 70 Lock, 65 mage and 65 lock. We wiped probably about once due to pulling too many than we could handle. It was a good run over all. Lifestealing Enchant dropped, plus a few boe blues. Speaking of enchants, I was out at the tower where Crusader drops and I got it to drop on the first full respawn of the place. So that was pretty sweet. Which makes it what I have in the bank for my mage to learn: Lifestealing, Unholy (picked it up for 15g), Crusader and Icy. Just need to get Fiery if they ever fix the Blackrock Mountain instances.

I'm having a hard time really getting into WoW due to the expansion now. It could be because I played it for 2 years straight. Or it could be because 5-mans that require really specific group composition is really annoying.

When my friends want to play, we have to take time to think about who's on and what we can do with what we have... or who we need to sign on so we can get something going. Otherwise it's PUGs, and I can't stand PUGs.

In other news, I'm sure Underbog is getting nerfed soon (today, maybe), cause I made enough money to get my epic flying mount, and then some, within the span of 3 days. I even came out with around 130 uncommon gems, and 12 or so rares. Not to mention a mass amount of BOE blues. Good stuff.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/

Well, it seems that Illiden will be fought by guilds and players all across outland as soon as the Black Temple is finished up. I just now hit 60 for the first time ever...ironnically as a blood elf...so I am gonna have to start jamming.

Good, bout time druids got nerfed hard. Especailly the HP/DPS reduction.

It's a good nerf, trust me on the HP. Cause half the time a 25% stam is FAR LESS then the whole single rate of HP.

Cause if a druid has 400 HP and 25% of that is what? 90. Instead of getting a flat rate of what? 1k HP or more?

Oh yay, now that I quit my guild they put in something to make my annoying former-guild master stop whining about how much Blizzard hates warriors. Good grief. :tpg:

I'm glad they kept it 25 man. It was making me nervous really. NOw the big thing is if I'll be able to see it.

I haven't played WOW in quite a while and due to the patches in the said period I'm having trouble deciding which class to play.

Could anybody give me an idea as to the imbalances between them; I was a Druid wanting to go down the feral route before but they've been nerfed I hear now.

Druids are perfectly fine. The people whining about the nerfs are the same people who posted their 7687684252 dmg mangle crit and lol'd on everyone else's forum.

Pretty much. I also hear the Paladin forums are full of whine too. I'm also a bit too scared to check it out for myself. :\