I just want to know why they felt some ridiculous need to more or less "invent" a new character, Quill/Spike, for this movie.

Technically, "Spike" has been the bastard child of the X-Universe for quite a while. He's never truly existed in the comics proper, at least not as a character of noteworthy status, yet he continues to appear in other X-related productions. They tried to push him with that new X-Men cartoon from around 2000/2001 and he never clicked with audiences. They all wanted Wolvie, Kitty Pryde, Phoenix, Xavier, etc, as well they should.

If I had to guess, Spike/Quill exists to fill a perceived gap in the X-roster, one that appeals to youth in that ever-so-cliched manner that actually doesn't appeal to youth at all. Spike is TOTALLY EXTREME HE'S LIKE ALL UP IN MY FACE WITH HIS RIGHTEOUS 'TUDE AND FRESH MOVES CHECK IT.

Executives think we want that shit. This is the same fucked-up logic that causes them to put rollerblading kangaroos on drink boxes.

Now I haven't read the script, so I don't know what purpose Quill/Spike serves in this movie. My guess is "fodder". But why have him there in the first place? Is the character so crucial that it couldn't have been replaced with someone whose already been canonized? If Quill is meant to bite the big one, then I feel they could've at least found a REAL, expendable character. Husk or Northstar comes to mind.

He serves little to no purpose. Like a lot of the random characters they've added to X3 his only purpose seems to be to take up screen time and detract from (semi-)established/decent characters.

A poweful analogy this is. Most excellent, you have done.

I can name a couple of mutants who'd be great to throw into a X-Men movie - but can't we all forget about Generation X? After the original artist left, the series completely shit the bed. (House Of M, my ass)

Kick ass movie. Cyclops is getting screwed in these films, though. I think he totals about 10 mins of screen time in the entire trilogy. I always expected more from him, since he was one of the MAIN X-Men, being the leader and all (wasn’t he?).

ALSO, make sure you check out this link before you go into X3 -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=H746naqMkac

I can’t believe the director decided to put that in. Fucking awesome.

The major comment i've heard (and over half my school watched it, we had a free day after exams the day it came out) was that it was too short and

I really wanted to see more character development, e.g. the Rogue/Iceman/Kitty love triangle, Colossus being more established, Angel actually doing stuff! Juggernaut was way cool though and funny with his accent.


No one really complained about the abundance of mutants, but moreso the lack of Gambit and the loss of Nightcrawler. There was some good lines "Do you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut bitch!" But some are corny too "cocoon of telekinetic energy".

My major criticism was that after watching the trailers, the entire exposition is predictable and seems disjointed. The ending is obvious and the only real shockers happen in the non-action scenes in the middle.




However, stay behind after you watch the film. There is an epilogue, not so much a trailer which I heard about from friends, so I guess this is relatively reliable

I guess I interpreted things wrong, then. Could've sworn, though. As you can see, I haven't actually read shit of the X-men comics, so I'm basing everything on what I see in the actual movies.

Why was I always under the impression that Beast was a genius scientist and not a politician. And did they refer to him as 'Beast' once in the entire movie?

Yeah, I think storm called him Beast.

I liked the movie. It definately could have used to be about 20-30 minutes longer, since it was lacking in character development. The ending does leave it open if they wanted to continue the series.

One of the CFOs or CEOs at FOX has already greenlighted X-Men 4, according to various news sources.

Only the best trilogies have 4 parts.

But stupid, snide remarks by jerks are not only left to the internet.

Well after seeing the film...I can't say I was disappointed in it, however the 'absolution' of characters were hit or miss with me.

Xavier once said, "There are no pearly gates for the X-Men. Instead, there are revolving doors"

Kickass! This movie was awesome. Like any other movie it had it's good parts and bad parts

Pros:



Cons:

I saw the film tonight. It was actually better than I expected. One point annoyed me, something which displayed a general lack of back knowledge on the writers' part.



Other notes:

It was cool to see Beast actually knock some skulls around. Tapping into his feral side demonstrated a three-dimensional quality to the character, which is more than they ever did for Cyclops.

I never read through a full list of expected cameos, so seeing Jamie Madrox (Multiple Man), Callisto and Arclight was a pleasant surprise. Arclight seems like an odd choice, since she was a rather minor entity dating back to the old Marauders squad. But hey, that's what a cameo is, right?



Wolverine was chased in the forest by the guy who generated bony spikes. I'm going to presume this was the "Spike" character that was quasi-created f the movie. Here's what I don't like: his ability is congruous with Marrow, an established character. Why not thrill fans and simply use her?

I'm then going to presume the youngster who looked like a porcupine was "Flea". Another made-for-movie joke. There's no dearth of mutant villains out there. It would've been just as simple to write in Blob or Avalanche for the part, or "borrow" a good guy to play an evil role (a la Multiple Man). Dazzler, Sunfire or Wolfsbane could've worked in that situation.

Something that left me uncertain:



What I did like was the scene after the confrontation at Jean's house. Logan's grief was actually believable and not overworked.

I'm also not weeping at the lack of screentime for Cyclops. Teamwise, he's an anchor but he's also as exciting as driftwood. The character doesn't emote much and Marsden has always seemed incapable of showing emotion as well. Frankly, all scenes with Cyclops, past and current, have been something of a bore. I'm glad the writing and directing team finally realized this and cut him out early. At least Storm has a semblance of a personality to work with, even though Halle Berry doesn't.

Also, which one was Psylocke and where did she die?

A spoiler would've been appreciated on your list of Con's, KCJ506.

Still debating whether or not I'll see this. The release really snuck up on me. I was looking at the internet this afternoon for show-times for Da Vinci Code and saw the show-time for this listed. Blindsided me entirely. Might just save it for the movie channels. X1 & X2 were nice the first time I saw them. No more beyond that.

My thoughts:

Sorry. I'm trying to edit it and make it so you can hide spoilers, but I don't how.

Use the ]spoiler[ ]/spoiler[ tags.

I'm just going to get to the point: so long as it entertains, it's going to satisfy someone out there. I came away satisfied even though I knew about all the nitpicks die-hard fans were going to have with the movie. I mean, it's a movie, for god's sake. No one cares if so-and-so's origin is inaccurate or isn't according to the book. This is an entirely different universe.

Despite the vast of wealth of interesting plots that have occured in the Marvel universe over the years, Hollywood somehow manages the produce something completely mediocre. Perhaps Mr. Ratner was befuddled by having actors that spoke good english or perhaps, heady with the success of the previous two movies, the powers that be realized that they could serve us shit on a silver platter and we would thank them for the honor.

To top it off, Juggernaut is not a mutant and he's not supposed to remind me of a He-Man villain.

Well about the Juggernaut thing...like soulsteel said...it's a universe based off of the main X-Men universe, and also the writer's and director's interpetation. I mean, how come no one is up in arms because Cain is Xavier's stepbrother?

And yea...Cyc is kind of one-dimensional, but I mean....he really should have had a bigger role. His wife died, and he's in the middle of a horrible depression. They should have tried to focus more on that. One of the things these X movies have is sub-stories withing the main story. It was the same thing in X-2, and I don't see why they couldn't incorporate more depth into those sub-stories, such as the Cyc one.

I saw the movie today. Enjoyable, but disapointing. It missed Singer and his team from the first two movies. Superman Returns better be good to make up for Singer leaving the X-Men. I admit that I don't know a lot about the Phoenix, but didn't Jean have way too much power in the movie? Was her power that high in the comics? I havn't read the Dark Phoenix saga. Anyway, if there is another X-Men movie, I hope Singer and his team come back.

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