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nanstey Aug 23, 2008 05:25 AM

Three days from now. One of two games that drove me to get a PS3 (the other being MGS4). I already have the frickin guide. I am so ready.

Summonmaster Aug 23, 2008 04:26 PM

The guide is already out? I haven't seen it anywhere, unless this is the Japanese version.

Of course, Disgaea 3 is also one of the reasons I got my PS3, so naturally it's already preordered also for the purpose of snatching up that collector's soundtrack too. All the new classes and attacks and geo systems are sure to eat up all my time from Wednesday onwards.

With the release of Disgaea 3 so soon, I do hope that Broccoli eventually also translates a Disgaea 3 artbook in a similar fashion to the first two artbooks for the series. I think the first two were well done and of course an artbook is an artbook.

Summonmaster Aug 29, 2008 10:34 AM

I was able to play the game for several hours on end last night, naturally being engrossed in it. Although it really does seem to trade off on several points so far, with the new mechanics, but despite that I still find it enjoyable.

The whole game is much more mana-centric now, since you're really forced to acquire and use mana this time around. No longer is it reserved for just voting purposes and character creation, but pretty much your entire skillset which you can buy with enough mana. Not to mention the inclusion of mana potions which are specifically designed to give you mana when consumed in battle.

Also, the whole storyline (loosely a storyline) angle is confusing with bad being honorable and good being deliquent. Certainly amusing, although I'm not a fan of the spanish orcs. I was having trouble picturing Mao's voice, and it doesn't seem like they matched the voice to the character either, in my opinion.

Soluzar Aug 29, 2008 10:37 AM

Damn it, my copy still didn't arrive!!!

I really want to play this game, I've only been waiting for it about nine months since I got my PS3.

Taco Aug 29, 2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Summonmaster (Post 641740)
The whole game is much more mana-centric now, since you're really forced to acquire and use mana this time around. No longer is it reserved for just voting purposes and character creation, but pretty much your entire skillset which you can buy with enough mana. Not to mention the inclusion of mana potions which are specifically designed to give you mana when consumed in battle.

They'd better have upped the mana you get from monster kills, or else it seems like this incarnation of Disgaea features more grinding than ever before.

Soluzar Aug 29, 2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Summonmaster (Post 641740)
Not to mention the inclusion of mana potions which are specifically designed to give you mana when consumed in battle.

I'm almost certain this feature was in Disgaea 2.

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Also, the whole storyline (loosely a storyline) angle is confusing with bad being honorable and good being delinquent.
Wasn't this basicallly the same in Disgaea 2 as well, what with the felonies being a mark of status?

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Certainly amusing, although I'm not a fan of the spanish orcs.
They aren't Spanish in the original game. They just talk like tough guys, gang members or something like that.

Summonmaster Aug 30, 2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco
They'd better have upped the mana you get from monster kills, or else it seems like this incarnation of Disgaea features more grinding than ever before.

Prinnies are apparently worth double mana, but other than that, it seems like it'll take until mid-game before you get any real momentum going with mana acquisition. Skills like Blade Rush cost 10 mana to buy, but Hurricane Slash is 300 mana, while the tech after is 600 :/ Not to mention that there Evilities to buy and equip which average at around 100 mana each, as well as to do all the homeroom (Dark Assembly) stuff with mana.

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Originally Posted by Soluzar
I'm almost certain this feature was in Disgaea 2.

I've encountered 0 mana potions in D2, and even if they were a part of it, in D3 it's much more pronounced, being in sale en masse in stores now, and even having the game explicitly tell you that it's an option if you need to get more mana.

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Originally Posted by Soluzar
Wasn't this basicallly the same in Disgaea 2 as well, what with the felonies being a mark of status

Yeah, although in D2 that was pretty much the extent of it, and Adell was still reluctant to demonic behaviour and such. Here it's really confusing since every aspect of school life is pretty much an entire contradiction. So much to the point that Raspberyl's lackeys even say "Good Day" and "Please" and "Thank You" as battle cries! That on top of everything else such as the teachers encouraging the students that accidentally attend class, to not attend class.

Celisasu Aug 30, 2008 08:44 PM

Anyways I picked this up today. Going to try it out in a little bit. Brother is hooking up the PS3 right now(just got that today as well).

nanstey Sep 8, 2008 05:15 PM

Yeah, I've played it through, gotten the straight ending, in the post game. They have shaken the system up a fair amount here, not just doing bigger and better of the last. I do like the addition of Evilities, along with the fact that the game actually TELLS you when you can create a new character type, or propose one. I did the the plot was a little aimless until the very end, though. and not quite as bittersweet as the endings have been in the past. Of course, I haven't gotten all the endings yet, so who san say. Anyhow, this is a solid title, and I'm glad I got it.

Taco Sep 18, 2008 06:18 PM

One of my roommates got this with our PS3, and I'm pleasantly surprised. The graphics are about as plain as the screenshots; the game really doesn't take advantage of the system's power at all. Blah blah blah, needs higher res sprites, etc. etc. etc.

What really stands out is the writing. This is far more of a Disgaea 1 style game than 2, which I think is fantastic. The complete disregard for the fourth wall and the clever pop-culture references, as well as the god-tier english cast, really make the cutscenes a hoot to watch.

All in all, not a total disappointment like I feared it was going to be.

wenchwogg Oct 3, 2008 03:02 PM

I beat it about a week after it's release. Took about 33 hours to see the credits roll, but I barely scratched the surface of what's possible in the game.

I like how there's an entirely different campaign to play through after you beat the game once.

I skipped D2 because it seemed too much like D1, and D3 suffers from the same expansion pack feel. But I played D1 years ago so it wasn't as noticeable. Still great games ... would love to see NIS take full advantage of the PS3's hardware for their next release.

Summonmaster Oct 5, 2008 12:39 PM

Definitely! The main story battles in D3 do not seem anywhere near as harsh as the previous two. If anything, I'd say they give you plenty of maps that are good to train on, some being better than others as usual, but none of this Enemy Boost X 9 and Enemy Boost + 150% littering a map. My friends always express great surprise when I tell them I beat Disgaea 3 already, within 2 weeks of release.

This may be a long shot, but has anyone ordered the game off of Rosenqueen to get the "Devil Label" singles CD? The reason I ask is because I would really like the Full version of Maritsu Evil Academy, and the dl link on the person's blog has long expired. This isn't in the game's music shop, or on the official OST and it comes with the full version of Sinful Rose and Laharl's Hymn.


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