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Hindman Sep 21, 2007 09:18 AM

With matters so individual/subjective as this one, it's hard to speak for others, but in my case, I'd known about the game, but didn't play it until PSX (and didn't make it very far due to a memory card wipeout), and didn't actually get into it until a couple months after the GBA release. (The wife is a different story entirely though ^_^) And yet this DS version has me fanboying all over the place. But yeah, it's hard to speak for others on hypotheticals like this so...I'm gonna stop before I think so abstractly I end up going back in time.

RPG Maker Sep 21, 2007 08:08 PM

TGS 07 - New Final Fantasy IV Trailer

Hindman Oct 2, 2007 10:14 AM

Better, non 'TGS people are all up in my way and there is crappy sound' trailer!

HOLY FUCKING CRAP @ trailer quality and the voice acting.

chato Oct 2, 2007 10:47 AM

Holy shit...

Now I'm interested... BUUUUUT obviously in the US version, they might cut off the voices and add the dubbing(IF they can gather the best VA's..) and it'll suck. This trailer is more than enough to satisfy me now.

Dark Nation Oct 2, 2007 07:24 PM

Just saw that trailer. There is almost no way I am NOT getting this now.
Is there another place that has that trailer, or downloadable? I want to
get working on extracting screenshots for Avatar/Sigs & such things.

makura Oct 2, 2007 08:51 PM

Impressive. Has the Theme of Love song been released yet? Love the vocals.

Asa Oct 4, 2007 12:03 AM

"Theme of Love" is one of my most favorite Final Fantasy theme songs... can't wait to hear the single.<333

And the trailer is gorgeous. I'm now hunting down a GBA copy of the game to play, sigh.

Gechmir Oct 18, 2007 07:16 PM

I just found out that the JP version has voice acting. Horrible English voice actors -- WATCH FOR IT ;____;

New pic of the CG cutscenes. Jesus Christ they made Cecil look badass =D

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3..._ffivds_01.jpg

But it makes me fear atrocious voice acting all the more.

Full, natural versions of above pictures (Photobucket causes shrinkage, y'know):
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff4d...da/ff4ds25.jpg
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff4d...da/ff4ds26.jpg
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff4d...da/ff4ds27.jpg

Just got lobbed an interesting idea. If FFIV's voice acting is lousy, then...:
Quote:

If the english voice acting is crappy: download the jap and us roms off the internets(assuming you bought the game it's ok) open the jap rom with a program called dslazy, find and copy the voice files, open the us rom, paste the jap voices over the english ones, repack your english rom, put it on your flashcart(R4 M3 etc) and enjoy the english game with japanese voices.
I don't want bad acting perverting an experience of one of my favorite games of all time =O

PunyPeon Oct 18, 2007 07:43 PM

I fully agree, bad voice acting can haunt you for life (Baten Kaitos). I would like to expect either an option for Japanese voices, or to be able to turn them off, that is unless the acting is good, there aren't many games that had good voice acting such as RE4.

Gechmir Oct 18, 2007 07:58 PM

SE won't give you the choice. They're huge on doing dub jobs. And given their track record (FFX and FFXII main characters in particular), I'd rather not leave it up to them.

I just watched the new trailer from early October and DAMN am I impressed. I expected Cecil's voice to be deeper but no gripes. Kain's voice? Awesome. And Golbeze's is even more win.

Inhert Oct 18, 2007 09:13 PM

well FFXII and even FFT (psp version) have really good voice acting at least for me I think FFXII has one of the best English voice acting lately (not the best but one of the best...)

and I think they didn't even started working on the english version so start complaining when we will actually hear the english voice >_>

Gechmir Oct 19, 2007 05:52 PM

Man, I'd kill to hear have the single to the vocal version of "Theme of Love". Sounds damn fine. A shame that it'll be English-ized.

VitaPup Oct 21, 2007 09:13 AM

Even though it was a different singer, were The Theme of Love's lyrics the same as the Final Fantasy: Pray version?

Hindman Oct 25, 2007 01:40 AM

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...0/071006_1.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...oza_facept.jpg

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/cain.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/rydia.jpg

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/cecil.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...10/071010a.jpg

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/1012_1.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/1012_2.jpg

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/1012_3.jpg

Nall Nov 21, 2007 04:59 PM

So the official Japanese development blog outlined several new features for this version of the game (some of this is old, but it hasn't been posted yet):

* Players may now re-form their party with any character as their leader, just like the original. Only now, when a player enters the menu screen, the leader will be shown on the bottom screen with their personal thoughts on what is going on in the story at the time - sometimes with funny anecdotes.

* An in-game jukebox function has been added with all songs from the game, complete with commentary by Edward.

* New combination attacks can be performed between certain party members.

* Story elements that were not able to be inserted in the original version due to space or time restraints have been added. The overall amount of dialogue has greatly increased.

* It seems that unlike the GBA version, characters such as Cid, Palom, Porom, Edward, and Yang *cannot* be recruited late game. The developers thought this "changed the game too much". "The story of FFIV", Square claims, "was always it's most important feature. The last five characters you control in the original version simply worked very well with each other, and we wanted to preserve those feelings." Characters can now "inherit" skills of any character not currently in the party, giving them new abilities. These new abilities can be shuffled and exchanged in several ways.

* Many towns have been completely re-vamped. Damcyan now appears more "Middle-Eastern", while Fabul is more "Chinese". Eblan has also been designed to look more like a "ninja residence".

* While the polygon count of character models has been reduced from Final Fantasy III DS, more characters and enemies will be displayed on the screen at a time. With new character voices and cut-scenes, the game was barely able to fit on the 1Gb DS game card.

The game is also still on for its December 20 release in Japan.

Andrew Evenstar Nov 22, 2007 12:47 AM

Wow. Awesome update. Thanks :)

Buizel Nov 22, 2007 02:53 AM

Quote:

With new character voices and cut-scenes, the game was barely able to fit on the 1GB DS game card.
1GB?! o.O
Don't they mean 1Gbit aka 128MB?

And yeah, great update. :)

SuperSonic Nov 22, 2007 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nall (Post 537273)
* Many towns have been completely re-vamped. Damcyan now appears more "Middle-Eastern", while Fabul is more "Chinese". Eblan has also been designed to look more like a "ninja residence".

So we're gonna see a FFIV version of Konoha with a teenager with yellow spikey hair jumping around yelling "Believe it!"

Hopefully the music will receive a good update. I don't know how well it worked for Final Fantasy III. All I know is it's a good thing it doesn't sound like the GBA version. Hopefully they'll also keep this game uncut like in the Playstation version.

Dalkaen Nov 22, 2007 10:43 AM

Wow, that sounds pretty cool. I was kind of unsure about the inability to change your party members at the end, but I feel better about it with the explanation given.

And combination attacks? That sounds awesome. Hopefully they don't make Palom and Porom's Twin Attack ridiculously useless like it was in FFIV Advance...

Gechmir Nov 22, 2007 11:20 AM

RPGamer > Final Fantasy IV DS > Propaganda

Dunno if this is new/old, but it looks awesome. New pics of FFIV. Seems they flesh out Cecil's past. Kain and he were orphans, Cecil having been found as a baby under a tree by the king.

The Shining Force remake tried to make a storyline development and it was a phenomenal flop in my opinion. I hope this doesn't follow, but it seems they're putting a lot of heart in to this. Also, I'm unsure what I think of the custom-character thingie on the final page... =(

Nall Nov 22, 2007 12:09 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...9_Coverart.png
Official box art up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCN401 (Post 537566)
1GB?! o.O
Don't they mean 1Gbit aka 128MB?

And yeah, great update. :)

Yes, you're right, "1Gb", not "GB". That was my bad. :eagletear:

Still, I was very pleased with these updates. I"m looking forward to the game already. I haven't seen anything about a release date outside Japan, but I guess it's still too early. This is a good opportunity to remind everyone that the DS is region-free!

Gechmir Nov 22, 2007 12:45 PM

I'm hoping someone cooks up a way to switch out the voice tracks. The JP voices sound too damn awesome to pass up.

Reinhard from LoGH plays Edward/Gilbert. I mean COME ON =U PERFECT VOICE.

Hope that trick I copy-pasta'd a few pages back will work...

Buizel Nov 23, 2007 02:27 AM

SquareEnix would be stupid to not release this outside Japan... and too stupid for hiring bad dub voiceovers. :/

RainMan Nov 23, 2007 03:04 AM

Yes. The quality of voice actors in the US, in comparison to Japan, is laughable. I won't mind if there is no voice audio as I prefer reading the scripts and dialogue anyways.

Borg1982 Nov 23, 2007 07:42 PM

Where does that "official" box art come from?


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