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Taco May 10, 2007 05:44 PM

I'm trying to run SnemulDS, but it keeps saying it can't find the ROM files in the ROM directory, which I left as the default /SNES in the root folder. Does it want ZIP files or SMC files?

Edit: I just tried zip files, too. No matter what I do when I run the NDS file it doesn't find the files. I'm using an R4 with an unpatched SnemulDS.nds, haven't touched the config file.

Shaolin Samurai May 10, 2007 07:18 PM

You need to use the version DLDI patched for M3 Simply and R4s, conveniently available here: http://snemul.com/ds/SNEmulDSv05b_M3S_R4.zip

Leave the roms as .SMC files, and if it doesn't find them restart your DS and run it again.

Taco May 11, 2007 12:49 AM

Oh hey, that did it. Thanks for the help!

Now is there any way to adjust the emulated screen size? It wants to chop off a bit from the top and bottom as it wants to stretch to fit horizontally, but I'd much rather have it fit vertically and have it be a bit squished. The lack of the bottom pixels has cost me many a life in Mario All Stars.

Rock May 11, 2007 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 430355)
That's funny - I have 62 SNES roms on my M3 Lite, and 51 of them are running at full speed with near perfect sound and fully visible layers, with working SRAM saves and savestates.

I guess it all depends on your own definition of "full speed" and "near perfect sound".

By all means, Chrono Trigger does not run at full speed nor is the sound anywhere near perfect in SNEmulDS 0.5b. In fact, the game suffers from massive slowdown, lacks transparency effects and the constant croaking and hissing that is supposed to be music is unbearable.

I guess you can live with that if you're a masochist and never played the original, but I wouldn't want to spoil the experience of such an awesome game with crappy DS emulation.

Shaolin Samurai May 11, 2007 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco (Post 431837)
Now is there any way to adjust the emulated screen size? It wants to chop off a bit from the top and bottom as it wants to stretch to fit horizontally, but I'd much rather have it fit vertically and have it be a bit squished. The lack of the bottom pixels has cost me many a life in Mario All Stars.

Yscroll can be set to top or bottom to see more of the top or bottom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock (Post 431919)
I guess it all depends on your own definition of "full speed" and "near perfect sound".

By all means, Chrono Trigger does not run at full speed nor is the sound anywhere near perfect in SNEmulDS 0.5b. In fact, the game suffers from massive slowdown, lacks transparency effects and the constant croaking and hissing that is supposed to be music is unbearable.

I guess you can live with that if you're a masochist and never played the original, but I wouldn't want to spoil the experience of such an awesome game with crappy DS emulation.

Use "Cycles speed hacks" and "no wait vblank" to get the game to run at full speed - 95% - 100% (with some major frame skipping, but full speed nonetheless). I have played the original game on an SNES extensively, and I am not experiencing any "massive slowdown" or "constant croaking and hissing." The sound is in perfect sync and there are some occasional pops and cracks there though. Key word is occasional though.

What specific "transparency effects" are you having trouble with? Every else looks fine for me except for the text (known emulation issue). If you are having trouble seeing some platforms try BG settings 2031, but Auto seems to work fine for me. Keep in mind that the layer priorities are fully customizable so you can tinker with those and see what works best for you.

You seem to be alone in your assessment of Chrono Trigger, especially regarding the sound. Everyone here is reporting much better results...

And I really do mean that 51 of my roms are working at full speed with near perfect sound. Chrono Trigger is the WORST emulated out of all of them that load- the rest are damn near perfect in every way. I encourage you to try out more roms and see if your opinion hasn't changed.

Rock May 11, 2007 05:59 AM

I'm not here to argue with you and DS owners have all the right to be excited about this proof of concept.

I've tested the latest version of SNEmulDS quite extensively, but it's nowhere near as accurate in terms of emulation as PC emulators or even Snes9x on the PSP. At this point, SNES emulation on the DS is still defective in comparison. That's all I was trying to say.

Taco May 11, 2007 03:11 PM

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For all who like skins and care about animu/Touhou, I've put together a Touhou skin featuring the final boss of Perfect Cherry Blossom, Yuyuko Saigyouji. There's a million and a half Touhou characters, so I doubt I'll end up making themes for all of them, but possibly a couple more provided I can find art for them.

Here's the preview, and attached is the file.

http://www.another14.com/images/yuyu-preview.jpg

Syndrome May 11, 2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaolin Samurai (Post 431933)
And I really do mean that 51 of my roms are working at full speed with near perfect sound. Chrono Trigger is the WORST emulated out of all of them that load- the rest are damn near perfect in every way. I encourage you to try out more roms and see if your opinion hasn't changed.

Could you please name some SNES games that works great on SNEmulDS 0.5b on an M3 DS Simply? I tried out Chrono Trigger, which didn't work very pleasantly, but I wish to try a couple of other games before I bash the emu.

Also, I am fairly picky. Please name your best working games ;)

Shaolin Samurai May 11, 2007 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome (Post 432163)
Could you please name some SNES games that works great on SNEmulDS 0.5b on an M3 DS Simply? I tried out Chrono Trigger, which didn't work very pleasantly, but I wish to try a couple of other games before I bash the emu.

Also, I am fairly picky. Please name your best working games ;)

I can't speak for Simply users specifically but here are some titles known to work great off the top of my head:

Prince of Persia (U)
Shadowrun (U)
Super Metroid (JU)
Cybernator (U)
Zombies Ate My Neighbors (U)
Goof Troop (U)
Terranigma (U)
Bio Metal (U)
TMNT IV: Turtles in Time (U)

Also be sure to check out these compatability lists:
http://wiki.pocketheaven.com/SNEmulD...atibility_List
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/index.php/SN...atibility_List

Just keep in mind that any games that utilize special co-processor chips like Star Fox, Super Mario RPG, Kirby Super Star, Megaman X2/X3 etc will NOT work as those chips are not currently emulated.

Also games that utilize the SNES's high-resolution modes like Seiken Densetsu 3 will be pretty much unplayable for similar reasons.

spikeh May 13, 2007 08:15 AM

Got my M3 DS Simply and Lite a month ago and I'm loving it. I've always wondered when they'll ditch proprietary memory for cheaper and upgradable flash memory. It sure suits the compulsive obsessive (such as myself) since I can carry loads of games with me at once.

For those in the UK, two good dealers are MrModchips and Modchip-Store. There may still be some DS Simplys floating around on eBay although they had a massive crackdown on sellers selling those items.

Elixir May 13, 2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco (Post 432122)
For all who like skins and care about animu/Touhou, I've put together a Touhou skin featuring the final boss of Perfect Cherry Blossom, Yuyuko Saigyouji. There's a million and a half Touhou characters, so I doubt I'll end up making themes for all of them, but possibly a couple more provided I can find art for them.

Here's the preview, and attached is the file.

Hey that's actually pretty sweet.

I think the problem with emulators on the DS is that it's so much more easier and stable to do so on a PSP, simply because it's got more support. A lot of Megadrive, SNES, SMS and NES games work perfectly on a PSP simply by running the most current emulator and rom. Most of the time anyway. Most people just use slot-1 and slot-2 devices for GBA and DS games, or for applications like DSOrganize.

I use it to keep all my games in a single cart. I have what, 15-20 something DS games? It's just easier when they're all there at once.

Xardion May 15, 2007 12:23 AM

Ok, so I got my M3 Simply, and I've run into a bit of a problem. It's nothing major, but it makes me sad. I can't for the life of me get skins to work on it. The only two things I had seen mention of to work it is to put the skin images in the _system_ folder, or in _system_\themes\theme##. I tried all that, and I even tried having taco send me his _system_ file and that didn't work. Tried having the images in the root directory, too. I've run out of ideas and I've annoyed Taco enough, so I'm seeing if any of you guys can help.

Also, Taco told me to link this image and tell you that I have a SanDisk 2 gig card.

Elixir May 15, 2007 01:13 AM

Stick bckgrd_1.bmp, bckgrd_2.bmp, icons.bmp, logos.bmp etc, in the "_system_" folder.

Also you're missing a Preview.bmp from that screenshot. Probably why it isn't working.

Taco May 15, 2007 01:56 AM

We tried putting them right in the _system_ folder. Also, the R4 doesn't need a preview, is it different in the M3?

Elixir May 15, 2007 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco (Post 433817)
We tried putting them right in the _system_ folder. Also, the R4 doesn't need a preview, is it different in the M3?

But.. Xard doesn't have an R4.

On my M3 Simply I have bckgrd 1, 2, icons, logo and preview (capital P) in _system_ and they run fine. Apparently if you aren't running XP it could cause issues too. Should I just upload everything on my micro SD card instead?

Anyway I'm currently using this skin:

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7...ttorneyig7.png

Rock May 15, 2007 07:17 AM

Here's how skinning your R4/M3 works:

By default, you get 12 directories in _system_\themes\ - these are for having a different theme for each month, from January (\theme01\) to December (\theme12\). They change automatically according to your calendar.

Alternatively, you can cycle through these themes manually.

If you want to use a single skin, it's safe to remove the \themes\ directory altogether and just put the theme files in the _system_ directory.

A theme consists of these 4 files: backgrd_1.bmp, backgrd_2.bmp, icons.bmp and logo.bmp. If you want individual text/selection colors, there's an optional theme.ini file to go along with the theme (same directory).

An awesome theme to use with the R4/M3 is Duotone. It was originally created for the M3 Simply, but comes with replacement graphics for R4. There's also a Moonshell version of Duotone, grab it here.

http://zeldalinks.net/hosted/justin/...creen-Blue.jpg

http://zeldalinks.net/hosted/justin/...ue-Preview.jpg

Xardion May 15, 2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 433824)
But.. Xard doesn't have an R4.

On my M3 Simply I have bckgrd 1, 2, icons, logo and preview (capital P) in _system_ and they run fine. Apparently if you aren't running XP it could cause issues too. Should I just upload everything on my micro SD card instead?

Well this is the first time I've seen a preview file mentioned. I just went to the m3 forum's skin thread and downloaded a new one. It had the bckgrd, icons, logo, preview, and theme.ini files. I got rid of my themes directory and just put them all in my _system_ folder. I still get nothing.

But if there's issues with not running XP, that could be my problem since I'm using ME. :(

FatsDomino May 15, 2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Xardion (Post 433982)
But if there's issues with not running XP, that could be my problem since I'm using ME. :(

Wait, what?

Elixir May 15, 2007 10:40 AM

Xard short of sending you my entire folder I'd just post here: http://www.m3-forum.com/viewforum.php?f=32

They'd know for sure, since the entire forum is dedicated to M3 Simply skinning.

Xardion May 15, 2007 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 433993)
Wait, what?

It's not my fault, I swear! ;_;

FatsDomino May 15, 2007 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xardion (Post 434096)
It's not my fault, I swear! ;_;

You've got some 'splaining to do.

Xardion May 15, 2007 02:00 PM

My laptop is dead, so I'm stuck using my dad's piece of shit pc, since for some retarded reason he's got the other one password protected and won't tell me it.

FatsDomino May 15, 2007 02:12 PM

Gosh, sucks to be you.

Shaolin Samurai May 17, 2007 12:21 AM

YouTube Video

Nifty video of SNEmulDS 0.5 beta running on a Slot-1 card, showcasing Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Axelay, and Super Bomberman. The CT audio is a little more off than usual for some reason (author thinks running after Super Metroid messes it up).

Yeah, you can clearly see the weaknesses and limitations of the emulator, but also the potential and extent of playability in the current state. I'm still baffled that anybody would claim that this is still just a "proof of concept" though. And I certainly didn't notice "constant hissing and croaking" during the video's run of Chrono Trigger or during my own playthroughs... are you guys experiencing substantially less performance than what you see in the video?

JazzFlight Jun 10, 2007 12:39 PM

I've had an R4 for the past 2 weeks and I'm loving it for DS games.

Now I want to get the best possible GBA flash cart.

I'm really eyeing the G6 Lite, but I want to know one thing:

Can you use the G6 Lite in a GBA/SP/Micro when you use the included GBA-sized shell, or it that only for use in a DS Phat?


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