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FallDragon Mar 14, 2006 08:13 PM

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I said exactly what I meant. You know what experience is? It means going out, testing the waters, and finding what you like all by your little self using that LUMP OF TISSUE 3 feet above your ASS. That requires going places, socializing, and trying to get to know people.
LOL I actually laughed at loud when I read that. It's so GRRRRR (though I guess my post earlier was as well)! Anyway, you don't socialize with the person through eHarmoney, you get to know they exist through eHarmony, and then you go out somewhere to socialize with them, get experience talking to someone new, etc etc. Hell, you could even go to a bar together if you want! All you naysayers are claiming this service replaces the experience of meeting someone, but it doesn't. All it simply does is make you aware of people that exist whom you'll likely have common interests and goals with.

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God forbid you'd actually have to go out, talk to a person and investigate what they're really like! You'd rather have a nice spreadsheet and image gallery to chose from, as though you were browsing for a used iPod on eBay!
Well, I'm not sure of all what they tell you about the person if you get matched up, but I doubt you get access to the surveys they took. eHarmony likely just says "hey, you'll probably like this person, go check them out," not "hey, you'll probably like this person, here's their entire profile." It may give you general things like "enjoys excercise" or crap like that, but any idiot knows that you'll have to actually meet the person to find out what they're like no matter what the survey says. Regardless, it's undeniable that eHarmony is a useful, and most likely a more successful way of finding a relationship than hoping to meet someone at a random bar or bookstore.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 14, 2006 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Minion
What is the difference between randomly meeting people in a public setting and (not so) randomly meeting people the computer picks for you? This is the question that none of you have been able to answer so far.

I think we've answered it about a million times by now, sweetcakes.

Y'see, if you guys could actually ACCOMPLISH going out and meeting people on your own, what the bloody hell purpose does eHarmony serve?

Let's use a metaphor, shall we? Maybe I can make my point better that way.

People. They like food. Most people NEED food a lot. Some people, they go out all the time, and expect someone else to cook for them. They can't cook for themselves.

Other people know that cooking is pretty important. Sure, you can get by without any knowledge on how to cook. But you're a lot better to know how to do it yourself, see.

Bad analogy. Alright. What I am saying is that you're having people PRE-SELECTED for you to meet by a robot, essentially. That is NOT HELPING YOU AT ALL.

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Originally Posted by FallDragon
LOL I actually laughed at loud when I read that. It's so GRRRRR (though I guess my post earlier was as well)!

Welcome to Sassland. Enjoy your stay.

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Anyway, you don't socialize with the person through eHarmoney, you get to know they exist through eHarmony, and then you go out somewhere to socialize with them, get experience talking to someone new, etc etc. Hell, you could even go to a bar together if you want! All you naysayers are claiming this service replaces the experience of meeting someone, but it doesn't. All it simply does is make you aware of people that exist whom you'll likely have common interests and goals with.
Yea, see, what aren't you getting about "defining a pre-selected group you get to know."

How about you get out there and be your OWN goddamned eHarmony.

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Well, I'm not sure of all what they tell you about the person if you get matched up, but I doubt you get access to the surveys they took. eHarmony likely just says "hey, you'll probably like this person, go check them out," not "hey, you'll probably like this person, here's their entire profile." It may give you general things like "enjoys excercise" or crap like that, but any idiot knows that you'll have to actually meet the person to find out what they're like no matter what the survey says. Regardless, it's undeniable that eHarmony is a useful, and most likely a more successful way of finding a relationship than hoping to meet someone at a random bar or bookstore.
Yea, maybe you guys should stop relying on your computers and actually go talk to some strangers. Not PRE-SELECTED strangers from group A B and C, or possibly the combination of one of the three.

Hello. Human interaction. You're not going to like everyone you meet. You need to be able to GET OUT THERE. You need to do it YOURSELF.

Smoodle Mar 15, 2006 12:19 AM

You know what I think? I think you all should stop being so damn uptight and analytical about how people meet one another. Is there a guidebook telling you the right way to meet people? I'd like to read it for a good laugh.

Besides, you're all conversing on an internet message board, writing to people you never would have had a chance to in the first place. Is that WRONG? Are you a BOtard because of it?

Little Shithead Mar 15, 2006 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoodle
Is that WRONG? Are you a BOtard because of it?

It could possibly be right or wrong.

But what is wrong is just throwing around words that are specific to your region as a way to insult us all.

Smoodle Mar 15, 2006 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Merv Burger
It could possibly be right or wrong.

But what is wrong is just throwing around words that are specific to your region as a way to insult us all.

:lolsign: Are you trying to make sense?:lolsign:
I'm not trying to insult anyone. I guess that's mindset around here, though, isn't it? "OMG is he trying to insult me in that post? OMGZ"

Little Shithead Mar 15, 2006 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoodle
:lolsign: Are you trying to make sense?:lolsign:
I'm not trying to insult anyone. I guess that's mindset around here, though, isn't it? "OMG is he trying to insult me in that post? OMGZ"

It's insulting when you use words that pretty much nobody else, besides those that live in your region, will ever understand.

But you're an idiot, so I suppose everyone will over look it.

Maybe they'll even overlook your usage of retarded emoticons.

Smoodle Mar 15, 2006 02:36 AM

Wow. "You're an idiot"? I suppose I'd better go tell teacher now. Again, you have no fucking clue what I was saying in the first place. And it's apparent, because you're turning it all around, trying to hide the fact that you have no idea what I was saying by directing insults at me. And "everyone will overlook" my supposed idiocracy? I think the only person who has a beef with me because of that post is you. It's pretty fucking smug of you to think everyone will back you up on your stupid little remarks that really have no purpose in this topic, and don't make any sense in the first place, don't you think?

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 15, 2006 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoodle
You know what I think? I think you all should stop being so damn uptight and analytical about how people meet one another. Is there a guidebook telling you the right way to meet people? I'd like to read it for a good laugh.

Besides, you're all conversing on an internet message board, writing to people you never would have had a chance to in the first place. Is that WRONG? Are you a BOtard because of it?

O wow, who called in the LOGIC CLUB PRESIDENT.

"Hey gays, why are you discussing this on an internet message board? GOD. WHATS THE POINT?!"

Shut the fuck up. You know what happens on internet message boards? Conversation. O WOW. IMAGINE THAT.

If you hadn't noticed, the book is an aide for those who are INTERESTED in learning how to do things in a certain manner. Some of us are plenty capable of going out, making friends, hanging out, meeting potential mates.

Other people don't have such an easy time at it.

FallDragon Mar 15, 2006 09:35 AM

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Bad analogy. Alright. What I am saying is that you're having people PRE-SELECTED for you to meet by a robot, essentially. That is NOT HELPING YOU AT ALL.
It's a bad analogy because when you go out to eat, your subject to the company's menu. You're not in control of your options. With eHarmony, you create your own. It's like own your own restaurant with your own menu, and eHarmony says "hey, this person made a similar menu like yours." Analogy FTW!

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Yea, maybe you guys should stop relying on your computers and actually go talk to some strangers. Not PRE-SELECTED strangers from group A B and C, or possibly the combination of one of the three.
Are you saying when you go to a bar or bookstore you aren't defining a pre-selected group? Bar = people ok with alcohol, people probably ok with smoking, people who are probably more social than others. Bookstore = people who enjoy reading in their free time, people who probably have a higher IQ than those at a bar, etc. Where you socialize automatically means your choosing one specific "kind" of person over another, so don't claim you're being open to all options. When was the last time you strolled by homeless people to find a date HMMMM? Maybe you'll find true love from a man living in a garbage can, or are you too worried about material wealth, mmmm? eHarmony is simply taking your filtering system one step further. The actual socialization with that person is left completely up to you.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 15, 2006 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FallDragon
It's a bad analogy because when you go out to eat, your subject to the company's menu. You're not in control of your options. With eHarmony, you create your own. It's like own your own restaurant with your own menu, and eHarmony says "hey, this person made a similar menu like yours." Analogy FTW!

Are you so dense to keep going to the same goddamned restaraunt?

Maybe you should just learn how to cook your own goddamned food. Assuming that people are going to cook for you for the rest of your life is kind of dumb.

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Are you saying when you go to a bar or bookstore you aren't defining a pre-selected group? Bar = people ok with alcohol, people probably ok with smoking, people who are probably more social than others. Bookstore = people who enjoy reading in their free time, people who probably have a higher IQ than those at a bar, etc. Where you socialize automatically means your choosing one specific "kind" of person over another, so don't claim you're being open to all options. When was the last time you strolled by homeless people to find a date HMMMM? Maybe you'll find true love from a man living in a garbage can, or are you about material wealth, mmmm? eHarmony is simply taking your filtering system one step further. The actual socialization with that person is left completely up to you.
Actually, I usually meet people in completely RANDOM places. I don't go anywhere to specifically seek out people. I bump into interesting people almost EVERYWHERE I GO in the most unlikely of places. THATS what I am telling you - you need to learn how to just LIVE.

Little Shithead Mar 15, 2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoodle
Wow. "You're an idiot"? I suppose I'd better go tell teacher now. Again, you have no fucking clue what I was saying in the first place. And it's apparent, because you're turning it all around, trying to hide the fact that you have no idea what I was saying by directing insults at me. And "everyone will overlook" my supposed idiocracy? I think the only person who has a beef with me because of that post is you. It's pretty fucking smug of you to think everyone will back you up on your stupid little remarks that really have no purpose in this topic, and don't make any sense in the first place, don't you think?

I'm trying to hide the fact that I don't give a rat's ass about the rest of this topic?

It still doesn't void the fact that I think you're an idiot. And I must have hit something close, because if I was completely off base with calling you an idiot, you wouldn't have written as much.

peeack Mar 15, 2006 10:10 AM

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Are you saying when you go to a bar or bookstore you aren't defining a pre-selected group? Bar = people ok with alcohol, people probably ok with smoking, people who are probably more social than others. Bookstore = people who enjoy reading in their free time, people who probably have a higher IQ than those at a bar, etc. Where you socialize automatically means your choosing one specific "kind" of person over another, so don't claim you're being open to all options. When was the last time you strolled by homeless people to find a date HMMMM? Maybe you'll find true love from a man living in a garbage can, or are you about material wealth, mmmm? eHarmony is simply taking your filtering system one step further. The actual socialization with that person is left completely up to you.
Making the process rather clinical, as I said previously. Thrill of the chase and all that. Why are some people afraid of the unknown?

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 15, 2006 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by peeack
Making the process rather clinical, as I said previously. Thrill of the chase and all that. Why are some people afraid of the unknown?

Because o god they might get REJECTED! And then they'll just feel terrible!

Precious feelings, you know. Very precious.

Alice Mar 15, 2006 10:18 AM

BECAUSE THE UNKNOWN MIGHT SAY NO.

I agree with you, peeack. The ride is the most thrilling part! I wouldn't have missed out on that for anything. But then again, not everyone is a thrill-seeker, you know.

EDIT: Dang it Sass, you beat me to it!

Minion Mar 15, 2006 10:25 AM

Uh, you can get rejected on eharmony. Happens about 90% of the time, actually.

Alice Mar 15, 2006 10:28 AM

But isn't it easier getting rejected over the internet versus in person?

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 15, 2006 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Minion
Uh, you can get rejected on eharmony. Happens about 90% of the time, actually.

But its easier than getting rejected IN YOUR FACE, right?

Your computer rejected you. Not a chick standing right there, where you actually have to listen and watch as you get bitterly rejected.

Instead, you get a little note saying "NO THNX"

And this, sir, is my point.

DAMNIT ALICE.

Minion Mar 15, 2006 10:30 AM

Not really. I've been rejected both ways. It's easier TO reject over the internet though, but that only puts the eharmony user at a disadvantage, which is contrary to what you people are claiming.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 15, 2006 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Minion
Not really. I've been rejected both ways. It's easier TO reject over the internet though, but that only puts the eharmony user at a disadvantage, which is contrary to what you people are claiming.

No, we're saying eHarmony uses are ALREADY at a disadvantage.

I am not saying ALL eHarmony users are fucking losers. They're obviously NOT, man.

I am just saying its a service for people who aren't really....uh....good at social shit. (And thats not BAD, exactly. I've told my friend Sarah to join because she SUCKS at talking to men. She agrees, and has considered it. She just can't afford that kind of money with her expenses right now. =/ )

I am just saying eHarmony ENABLES you people to suck a social shit. NOT ALL OF YOU! Some of you just don't have TIME, I am sure. But the majority of the users? Socially inept. Sorry.

Minion Mar 15, 2006 10:38 AM

Arguing with you is like being on a particularly nauseating merry-go-round.

Eharmony is FOR people who want better odds at finding someone they actually like. Do losers use it to hide from the real world? Sure. Good on them. But that's not what it's for and it is effective in it's intended purpose as is evidenced by it's popularity, my first hand experience, and the fact that it just makes sense.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 15, 2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Minion
Arguing with you is like being on a particularly nauseating merry-go-round.

If you don't like the ride, get off. No one tied you to the horsie.

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Eharmony is FOR people who want better odds at finding someone they actually like. Do losers use it to hide from the real world? Sure. Good on them. But that's not what it's for and it is effective in it's intended purpose as is evidenced by it's popularity, my first hand experience, and the fact that it just makes sense.
Ever think that maybe its popular because people are so goddamned lazy? I am not saying that YOU'RE lazy. I don't think thats your problem.

I am saying that you should not rip yourself off of the experience of going out there and falling flat on your face in rejection and failure. Without the MANY MANY MANY rejections and failures, you get a skewed sense of reality.

Life isn't about typing your name and likes into a search engine for people and popping out good results. You need to experience the bad with the good.

And when I say bad, I don't mean that you need to read a bad profile or get a bad match.

Alice Mar 15, 2006 10:48 AM

Hey wait a minute, Sass. Didn't you and Pang meet over the internet? Also, I have every confidence that you would have found the right person for you regardless - and probably in person - but for some people it's just not that easy. I don't know Pang, but from what I've gathered, I'd guess that he'd have a much harder time finding someone in person than you would.

Minion Mar 15, 2006 10:48 AM

Oh, I've been rejected enough, thanks. And I've had relationships with people I've met by chance. All you lose is the awkward "does she like me" stage, which you all seem to love, but speaking personally, I could do without.

Yeah, Sass is being a huge hypocrite, but I wasn't going to let the argument degenerate into ad hominem (I know you love that phrase =D).

FallDragon Mar 15, 2006 10:50 AM

God damn. The only "social" part you're missing out on by using eHarmony is the "what's your name, where do you live?" part, because that's the information eHarmony gives you. Why do you people continue to insist that eHarmony somehow takes away socializing??? Initiating socialization with said person is easier, yes, because you're both using eHarmony. But the actual TALKING TO SOMEONE NEW part still happens.

The only case you can make against eHarmony is that initiating conversation is made "less adventurous." And by "less adventurous" I mean you'll be surprised when you find out a lot of what they do probably won't piss you off, unlike that AWESOME realization you most likely come to when trying to meet people in a completely random fashion!

Alice Mar 15, 2006 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Minion
Oh, I've been rejected enough, thanks. And I've had relationships with people I've met by chance. All you lose is the awkward "does she like me" stage, which you all seem to love, but speaking personally, I could do without.

I think you just nailed it. Some people would call it the exciting "does she like me" stage, but you see it as awkward. eharmony is perfect for people who aren't interested in the thrill of things.


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