Argh, stop changing the title you guys. I actually needed ideas for what to eat. :[

You do realize Germany is IN Europe, right.

As for the disc, it's probably regular PAL release that's used all around Europe as there is also the BBFC rating as well as the german. Gotta love usk.

Everybody knows Germany is somewhere between Iran and Persia. Don't lie! *_*

(Actually I stressed the german-ness of the disc due to my vague hope of getting my copy early as well, being German and all... )

So I pre-ordered this and the limited edition guide from ebgames the other day. The guide was supposed to ship yesterday, but it had the date changed to today (and last I checked it still said "pre-order" and not "usually shipped within 24 hours") They had a special online price of $20 for it (where it would be $30 if you bought it at the store) and it seems to have shipped out. :tpg: . Have the game shipping overnight too so I get it street date.

I'll probably steer clear of the thread for a while because some things shouldn't be spoiled by faghats.

Don't worry. If people don't use spoiler tags, they'll be punished appropriately.

MGS4 Midnight Launch @ Gamestop/EB Game Locations. There ya guys go its in PDF format from Gamestop themselves, my area is on the list i'm so excited. 29 pages looks like a lot are doing it. Not only the game but the MGS4 bundle as well. Hope those got on the list as well for your gaming pleasure.

Probably gonna steer clear for awhile myself of MGS4 threads and sites, but gonna wait a couple days.

EDIT: Also for got to include that if you're going to one of Kojima and team autograph signings, don't bother to lug extra collectibles around. For the sake of time and getting everyone in there, he's only signing the MGS4 game sleeves which they'll sign and give to you (totally agree with the method). They also won't allow pictures but i guess you can try and get a quick one with a friend or family member off to the side.. really don't see harm in that while he's autographing for you. Here's a picture of the sleeve and the autographs courtesy of Mattyblog, more info here.
http://kotaku.com/assets/images/kota...mgs4sleeve.jpg

Yeah, but that "hay guys, this is whats going on :3" thingie at the top doesn't mark spoilers and instead just writes out the first bits of post content. I don't think anyone would commence the faggotry to do that, but you never know around here.

While there's nothing I can do about that per say, it is something I can attempt to fix if I find an offending post.

Best I can do dude, sorry.

It's cool bro. Wasn't complaining about it, just pointing it oot. :p

So you don't want the game spoiled but you bought a guide to tell you how to play it?

As long as I live I will never understand people who buy a guide at the same time as the game.

It's not like I'm going to sit there and play the game strictly by the guide. What fun would that be? I usually buy guides for artwork and other stuff like that. Not so much as the plot and story.

Kinda the same for me at times. There's quite a few guides where at the end they have concept drawings and other artwork.

Same thing for me too. I see so many people come into my store asking for old guides, saying "Aw man I should've bought it back then", so I go ahead and buy guides for games I'm probably gonna keep for the rest of my life; something of a "collector's set."

I've still got really clean copies of the original Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG and even all three of the Ocarina of Time strategy guides.

I rarely buy guides, but for MGS4 it's somewhat of a collectors item for me. I'm getting the MGS4 collectors edition might as well get the CE strat guide too. I did notice it was to release before game, dunno if it's still true or not seeing one person here hasn't had confirmed shipping yet, but i got mine from Amazon because it was a bit cheaper and said to be shipped on the 12th. Of course if it came earlier no way am i opening it.

So the guide will be there after i complete the game on my own and i want to go back and see if i missed anything. I know i played MGS and MGS2 enough times to find easter eggs here and there, but i'm just now finding things out in MGS3.. for those who didn't play/finish MGS3 spoiler tag added.

I took a break from gaming on consoles at least, cursed MMORPGs, and i wasn't up to date to most console games around that time, dunno how you can miss that stuff. So guides will help me find anything and everything, that i'd wanna go back and do. But like i said i rarely get guides and its more for the collection and other stuff they got in it.

Another topic, while they still had rumors to what Kojima wanted limited by reviewers in their reviews, Producer Ryan Payton cleared things up for everyone stating that they didn't care if they talked about cutscene length or install times, just that they wouldn't say when or what the cutscenes contained as it'd spoiler the experience for players knowing when to expect these. He said the longest cutscene is gonna be the ending. Install time is around 6 minutes with 2-3 minute installing between acts. He went on to say that the other limitations were for product placements and areas in which the game are played in.

Also i'm still curious to what the "surprise" will be for people who are buying MGS4 on the date.. he said that there was gonna be a surprise and Kotaku is thinking its downloadable content. Geez the date is so close and i'm on the edge of my seat.

Bah, what a shitty time to be on wireless if it is some kind of downloadable content. :( I won't be near broadband until like a few days after it comes out when I'm visiting some friends.

According to EB my shipment was delayed a day on the guide and it should be here tomorrow. :( I'll try to take some camera phone pics of it (nothing spoilerish) when I get it in.

I don't know, but "STUN KNIFE" doesn't appear to be a German word in my opinion.

Stun knife?!

Yeah d00d, look here:

Looks like the soundtrack that comes with the LE is only one disc. Interesting to see that the disc's design is the same as the two disc soundtrack's. The figure that comes with the PAL LE is kinda lame though, same UDF Old Snake figure by Medicom except with the olive drab camo (paint job).
Actually this can be remedied by making the thread title ridiculously long.

I got the guide in. I took just a couple of pictures. Trying to find the usb cable for my phone right now and I'll add them when I get them on my PC.

Its sooo tempting to read through it, but I'm holding back.

Seeing this makes me almost wish Kojima would release a 4 series book set of the MGS games in novel form. I'm sure I wouldn't be the only person that would buy them.

Honestely you're best not even venturing from GFF as spoilers from the guide have surfaced absolutely everwhere including the majority of social networking sites like LiveJournal, MySpace, YouTube etc to GameTrailers and Gamefaqs to PSN/XBL accounts getting friend invites and messages from account suicides containing spoilers. You've even got goons over at SA paying for AdBanners that contain heavy story spoilers for the game.:tpg:

Fortunately GFF is untouched for now which is why I've mainly been floating between here, a smaller board I go to and the spoiler free thread on GAF. At least there's only 5 days left.

Did you get the LE guide by the way?

New wallpaper:
http://i25.tinypic.com/2akkxad_th.jpg

Is the guide in stores now? If so I better snag me a copy of the LE, before it's too late.

Awesome! That's gonna be my new wallpaper.

BTW, the official site updated. The SP Mission 02 is now online, it's pretty much a point & click with the mouse shooter. There's also a new PSP wallpaper featuring Raiden, as well as a flash wallpaper featuring Raiden and Vamp. The flash wallpaper is really neat, it's got a timer to the game's release, links, a little news banner, and if you click on the character (either Raiden or Vamp, which you can select) you'll actually get an ingame animation. Unforturnately my desktop is littered with crap right now, otherwise I'd take a screen cap.

I've uploaded the flash wallpaper to Sendspace, incase no one wanted to spend the time to rack up the 30k DP to purchase it.

raiden-vanp-1600_1200.zip
raiden-vanp-1024_768.zip

METAL GEAR SOLID 4 GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS

Yeah the guide is in EB/GameStop stores as of yesterday. Retailers should of begun receiving the game today too and one Wal-Mart even broke street and sold the 80GB bundle yesterday.

Speaking of the bundle Amazon did have it available today for preorder but the site quickly got bombarded and the site went down..:psyduck:

Yeah I got the LE guide. The lithograph it came with was numbered up to 43,000. I had something like 38,374 or close to it. So I guess there were only 43,000 LE guides made. :|

Oh damn, my store hasn't yet received our LE guides; got the regular ones in today.