I'm not going to go pretending it's some lofty concept, Pang. Metal is about being angry. They're not angry enough. They like to look like they're angry, but they're not angry.

But what about Crotchduster. They're about as metal as they come, and they aren't angry.




*pokes holes with poking finger*



Also Sunn O))) & Earth. Don't get a bunch of anger from them.

Also, if anger is the only criteria we're going by here, then everything Trent Reznor touches (except for perfect drug and ghosts i-iv) is pure metal. Boy has issues.

hurr
durr

Isn't there a J-pop thread lurking somewhere here, anyhow?

Well try out this song then. It's going to be a music video off of the new album they're promoting. It's progressive, hard, yet melodic as well.

Vinushka

02-Vinushka.mp3



They're not J-Pop dude, why dont you just listen and see for yourself.

"I am going to lie in a coffin and record myself screaming"

clearly no anger


And of course it's not the only criteria, but it's a pretty damned important one for 95% of the genre.

Nah, they're just southern, bitter and intimidating.

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Pretty sure listening to that dirge just caused my scrotum to leap up into my chest cavity.

Tell me. Are you a fan of HIM?

I didn't think that was anger, I thought that was "holy fuck he's claustrophobic, so this will be fucking hilarious/creepy" I mean, they put Malefic in the back of a HEARSE. It's so absurd it reaches simultaneous heights of hilarity/horror.

No I don't listen to HIM. And if I did, what does that mean? Are you trying to compare HIM to Dir en grey?

You know, I gotta be honest...you're coming off as a pretentious metalhead, who refuses to listen to anything not metal cuz its 'gay' to him.

You made it clear you knew what kind of responses you were going to get with your first post, and now that those are the exact responses that are being given to you you appear somehow surprised.

You got a point, touche. But I guess i'm just an idealist who believes there are some open-minded metalheads out there, and I was wanting to see if there were any.

But also bad. =/

I've always liked their drummer, though. A lively, organic player dude he is.

(And I'd still say they're more rock than metal.)

Well, yeah, they seem to be targeting the same weepy-anime-fan-with-a-livejournal demographic.

I listen to plenty of extremely campy/effeminate/I-don't-know-what-the-fuck music. Hell, eighties synthpop is one of the best things ever. I also don't consider myself much of a metalhead! But, uh, I dunno, you can hardly accuse someone of being pretentious and exclusive when you've stumbled into a thread where everybody but you knows what the fuck they're talking about, right?

I'm pretty damned openminded, but the issue here is more that you're being presumptive than anything else. Why did you think bringing this shite in here in the first place would yield a positive response?

Both bands attract fangirls which I despise, but that's not Dir en grey's goal. To attract anime fans, that just comes with the territory because we all know westerners just LOVE anything japanese. So I don't think that's any excuse to compare the two.


Ok, so why are you being so difficult with this one band? The examples you've given so far as to why you dont like them are very outdated. If you say you're open-minded but you still don't like them in general without giving some insulting criticism to it, then ok...but you are doing that, and therefore coming off rather stubborn.

Because "I'm openminded" doesn't actually mean "I am a brainless pleasure drone and I enjoy absolutely fucking everything thrown at me", maybe? Jesus.

Ok, calm down.

See, the problem with Dir en Grey being metal is that there isn't enough Satan.




Needs moar Satan.

True. Satan and Sex.

Sex Machineguns.

Sex Machineguns is awesome.


I've been on a tech death metal binge lately so I dropped about 100 bucks at Metal Devastation and got:

Decrepit Birth - Diminishing Between Worlds
Decrepit Birth - ...And Time Begins
Odious Mortem - Cryptic Implosion
Odious Mortem - Devouring the Prophecy
Psycroptic - Symbols of Failure
Psycroptic - Th Scepter of the Ancients
Spawn of Possession - Cabinet

That store is seriously awesome and I need to go there more often. They have metal CDs of all genres including hard to find ones, except for the ultra rare stuff that you get from online order and they have an abundance of shirts and hoodies there. Oh yeah and I guess due to how much I purchased I was able to get a free t-shirt. I got a Kreator - Pleasure To Kill shirt. And the store doubles as a place for seeing small and local metal shows. I'll probably go to one next month to see this symphonic black metal band called Sothis. They're alright but Abysmal Dawn is opening for them and they're a phenomenal technical death metal band.

New Asmegin motherfuckers. New album after 5 years!

**Hidden Content**

I love me some tech death metal. Decapitated just came to my head. :)

Spheres of Madness, I think, is pretty much always going to be my favorite song. Ever.

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I checked out Asmegin, never had heard of them before. A couple of the tracks I really enjoyed (the title track especially) but the rest didn't do much for me.

A friend of mine is letting me borrow a couple of grindcore-ish albums:

Swarrrm - Nise Kyuseishu Domo
Holy fucking shit. Seriously, I swear the Japanese are better at making fucking batshit insane noisy music than Americans are. I mean, look at fucking Merzbow, Boris, and Melt Banana. Oh and this. I have no clue what the hell was going on in the album, but it's largely enjoyable. There seems to be actual song structure going on, too. Maybe.

Anaal Nathrakh - Hell Is Empty, and All the Devils Are Here
Again. Fucking nuts, but in a completely different way. I guess that's the difference between death/grind (this album) and avant/grind (the other album). There's moments of eerie beauty on this bitch.

I may be uploading both to the MEC sometime soon.

That Anaal Nathrakh album is excellent. I do think Eschaton is a better album overall (plus it has more of a BM influence going on), but Virus Bomb is pure fucking gold in musical form.

Y'all need to listen to some real damn music.

Such as what, H-Bomb. What do you consider real music?

H-Bomb, perhaps?

Why, I do believe there's a bit of a contradiction here.