I have no issue with having both options present. I am just correcting your mistake. You misunderstand me, sir.

We should avoid derailing this any farther though.

Alright then, back to the matter at hand for the moment. This will be my final say on the matter for there are other subjects that can be discussed here aswell.

First I want to apologize if it seemed or if I worded myself to make it seem that I was saying that Wi-Fi is better. Because that is imposible. Wireless can never be better then wired, doesn't matter what you're talking about, it can only hope to be equal at best.

What I meant to say is that Wi-Fi will get the job done. If you're playing games, streaming music, or viewing pictures.. Wi-Fi gets the job done with no real noticible hinderance. If you are doing more intensive things like streaming video, there will be a noticible percentage difference between Wi-Fi and Ethernet, but once again it will get the job done.

Is it worth the extra money? If you already have a ethernet cord right there probably not. But if you already have a Wi-Fi router, or don't have an Ethernet cable where you need it to be, Wi-Fi is a worthy option. If you take your console to people's houses when you go to visit and there's the possibility that they might have Wi-Fi instead of hardwire, then it may also be worth considering getting Wi-Fi enabled PS3.

That is my case my good sir, and I stand by it.

Question, I plan on using the PS3 solely for games and movies (since I hear it has other functions, none of which really interest me, personally), so is the 20GB version fine for that? Or is the 60GB version better just because it has more memory for games?

The 60GB version will be good for thoes who are planing on downloading lots of demos, trailers and such from Sony online, as well for thoes who are planning to rip every CD in their collection. For every one else, 20GB should do fine. And as stated before, at any point you can replace your HDD with a larger one of ANY brand of HDD in the future if you do decide that you need more space. So unless you think you need the 60GB model, or that you need one of the other functions on the Premium PS3, the basic model should do most people fine.

The only hook is that Sony has said that 70-80% of PS3s shipped to North America will be the Premium model, so getting that cheaper Core model, might be a bit tricky at launch.

Not if you make sure to reserve the 20gb model early.

Get the 20GB model. If all you're going to use it for is games and movies, as the console should've been from the get go, then you'll be set with the cheaper unit.

Good to know, thanks guys :)

Not a problem, most people seem to have these questions since Sony's not going to fully clarify launch details until the October event they're planning.

So... is there any information about the backwards compatibility at all? How it'll work and all, if PS2 games will look somewhat better, etc?

I know that I haven't heard anything other then it's going to be FULLY compatable with ALL PS1 & 2 games. I wouldn't be surprised if the PS1 part has the same enhancements it had on the PS2. As for the PS2 component, Sony's not releasing all the details until october, so you'll probably have to wait until then to know for sure.

That's a downer. They could at least release a screenshot of some PS2 game with the enhancements on, if it has any.

I don't remember seeing any ps1 with the ps2 enhancement at the lauch of the ps2 so I don't see why they would have done it now...

anyway just a normal backward compatibility (by that I mean no enhancement) will still be better then the backward compatibility of the 360 >.>

if there's really some enhancement, I would really like to see Shoadow of the Colossus running on the ps3 (to see if it will help the framerate problem)

Just by playing PS2 games on the PS3 should fix any frame rate issues there were with the original hardware, unless the problem lies in poor coding and not hardware limitations.

And like you said, just the fact that it has the ability makes it 1000000000000% better then the 360's ability... if you can even say that it has any ability. (No Shenmu, Unreal Championship 2, The Warriors or Kingdom Under Fire... who the hell's running that damn circus over at M$?)

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The PS3's backwards compatibility was touched on way back at E3 '05. Here's basically what was touched on:

• 13k titles to emulate (PS1 and PS2 numbers shown, I think it was 7k and 6k)
• PS1 Emulation achieved via software emulation
• PS2 Emulation achieved via hardware present in the PS3 (it's assumed Sony's simply dropping the PSTwo's Dragon chip, basically the EE+GS combined, into the unit)

We'll see clarification at that event in October. This is one of many issues on people's minds. Online is another vague area.

Yeah I don't remember seeing any ps2 enhancements on the ps2 either.

However, I do remember seeing some Vagrant Story (PS1) comparison pics.

And Metal, yeah, I remember seeing all that info. I was hoping there'd be some more news by now, but I guess not. :(

Yeah, I'm sure most people keeping abreast of PS3 news would've seen them. It's not unlikely that Sony will have the best BC out of the three.

It's just that specifics matter, and so do demonstrations, so we have to wait a bit more for that.

Haven't they [Sony] said that the PS3's anti-aliasing capabilities will transfer over to PS1 and PS2 titles, making the jaggies appear less in number and smoother?

20gb is way more than enough.

They mentioned there will likely be enhancements that could be applied to PS1 or 2 titles played on the machine. One of which is assumed to be AA, but what level of AA is unknown. This one alone would make many PS2 games look much better (SOTC) and it'd help the vast majority of PS1 games become playable.

I imagine the other may have to do with textures, loading, etc.. Not much you can add, though a more technically oriented person can chime in to point out other potential benefits.

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i'm def getting the 60 GB (don't have a choice since i live in Europe) and hopefully in the first year the piracy gods have found a way to store games ^^

You might even consider purchasing the games you play to like, you know, support the industry and all that jazz. Especially some of the smaller guys. I can't be positive but I'm pretty sure this world doesn't owe you a living.

Although I fully agree with you there Jacky, that argument doesn't hold a lot of weight around here. Most people shrug it off or flat out ignore it. The primary draw of this place for a lot of people is music piracy, after all.

Well, since PS2 games will be run through hardware, there likely aren't as many upgrades they can offer to it. If it was just software emulation they could probably offer additional features, but since PS2 hardware will effectively be running the games, they'll likely be in their original form. PS1 emulation I'm not sure about, potentially they could add a lot more to that since they aren't limited by the original hardware.

Assuming that they do offer enhancements (to the PS1 at least), they could easily enable AA for edges and anisotropic filtering for textures (basically makes the textures much sharper and detailed when viewed at an angle). Possibly higher resolution as well, or at the very least upscaling to HD, and progressive scan support for all games (hopefully even those that didn't support it originally). Increased disc reading speed as well, but like the PS2 with the PS1 it would have to be kept as a toggleable feature in order to ensure compatibility.

Wait, but if they're running ps2 through hardware, then why such low backwards compatibility? It should be up in the high 90% mark then, right?

I love rpgs,most of them are never released in Europe (or months later). Importing costs TOO much and i don't like to have original games where i have to apply the swap magic method. I download the games and if the games i like (shin megami tensei dds,KH2, Okami,...) are released here i buy them. I really hope with the next generation consoles things will be different,but i doubt it....Europe will always be left behind.