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Metal Sphere Sep 22, 2006 07:15 PM

Apparently, this game has got many an X-Naut (lol, TYD reference) pissed off. The game I'm talking about is Ninja Gaiden Black: Sigma which is basically an uber-enhanced port of the widely acclaimed title. And this thing is running at 1080p @ 60fps.


Resistance: Fall of Man boxart -

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/ar...1054450098.jpg

Gundam: Target in Sight boxart -

http://image2.ruliweb.com/data/news7...tc/tgs_148.jpg


And here we though most games would only be 720p.

PS3 - Monster Kingdom

http://image2.ruliweb.com/data/news7...ps3/ning03.jpg

http://image2.ruliweb.com/data/news7...ps3/ning02.jpg

http://image2.ruliweb.com/data/news7...ps3/ning01.jpg

Soldier Sep 22, 2006 09:28 PM

Gamespot has a live feed of the TGS showfloor. The only problem is only the first 5 minutes are free.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/event_...=tgs2006&res=1

First details are that Sony is going to continue giving information leading up to the NA release of the PS3. Also some Lair footage was shown that was said to be "incredible".

Metal Sphere Sep 22, 2006 09:44 PM

Where's the Lair footage? I heard about the upcoming event sometime in October. Hopefully some sort of megaton will be dropped there or at least fleshed out launch details.

eprox1 Sep 22, 2006 09:56 PM

2 HDMI ports on the 60 GB PS3?
(Half way down the page)

Interesting...I've never heard of this 'letter box' setup before. What's it used in? Do you guys really think this is plus, or do you think that it just raises the price of the 60 GB model? I know that I would never use two HD TV's lined up next to one another...(Hell. I would never be able to even afford two HD TV's :(! Not anytime soon, anyways.)

Simo Sep 22, 2006 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
Where's the Lair footage? I heard about the upcoming event sometime in October. Hopefully some sort of megaton will be dropped there or at least fleshed out launch details.

There's some at the link below recorded off the showfloor given Lair was playable:
http://playsyde.com/news_3493_en.html

Metal Sphere Sep 22, 2006 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBomber
2 HDMI ports on the 60 GB PS3?
(Half way down the page)

Interesting...I've never heard of this 'letter box' setup before. What's it used in? Do you guys really think this is plus, or do you think that it just raises the price of the 60 GB model? I know that I would never use two HD TV's lined up next to one another...(Hell. I would never be able to even afford two HD TV's :(! Not anytime soon, anyways.)

Damn near useless, further cementing the $600 as a "status" item jam-packed full of pork.

eprox1 Sep 22, 2006 10:39 PM

Well, I sort of agree. I was just thinking though, wouldn't this be amazing for multiplayer? I mean, you would only need a single PS3 and a single game for something similar to a Halo LAN party (blasphemy!). I don't know. I hate to say it, but I'm usually the kind of guy who goes for the better/more expensive version of almost anything I purchase. I think I may be doomed to the 60 GB version :(. Unless I get lucky on Christmas...

Double Post:
PS3 is MUTE.
Just read this via Evil Avatar. Honestly, this is a pretty big plus for me. My roomate has an X-Box 360, and whenever I play it I literally have to turn up the volume on our surround sound just to drown out the noise the console creates. The external power brick is also annoying as hell - glad to see the PS3 eliminating this annoyance. This is one reason the PS3 is so massive, I guess.

Metal Sphere Sep 22, 2006 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueBomber
Well, I sort of agree. I was just thinking though, wouldn't this be amazing for multiplayer? I mean, you would only need a single PS3 and a single game for something similar to a Halo LAN party (blasphemy!). I don't know. I hate to say it, but I'm usually the kind of guy who goes for the better/more expensive version of almost anything I purchase. I think I may be doomed to the 60 GB version :(. Unless I get lucky on Christmas...

Make it well known you want a 20GB PS3, or the cheap one. Play to the fact that you want them to save money, they'll figure out which is the lower priced model. And price = quality. Bose is proof enough of that.

Quote:

Double Post:
PS3 is MUTE.
Just read this via Evil Avatar. Honestly, this is a pretty big plus for me. My roomate has an X-Box 360, and whenever I play it I literally have to turn up the volume on our surround sound just to drown out the noise the console creates. The external power brick is also annoying as hell - glad to see the PS3 eliminating this annoyance. This is one reason the PS3 is so massive, I guess.
Yeah, it's been known already. The PS3 was tested at UL, and that was the consensus. Then there was some sort of leak at another place where it was being tested with Blu-Ray movies on loop and it was still cool and quiet after 28 straight hours.

Here's a little treat for all of you, 720p Resistance trailer:

http://blog.hinjang.com/media/files/...ce_trailer.wmv

Soldier Sep 23, 2006 01:06 AM

A look at the photo and web browser.

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/6358

The 3D slideshow effect for the pictures and the Firefox-style browser are very nice.

SouthJag Sep 24, 2006 12:58 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6158499.html

Ah well. No US price drop. However, on the plus side the article says all 20GB PS3s will include HDMI ports.

Slayer X Sep 24, 2006 01:09 PM

This is good newsand bad I suppose. But honestly when you're spending $500 is another 50 really that big a deal? Sure it would be nice but I rather spend the extra $50 if it'll give me a better quality product. Especially one that I'll use pratically every day.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Sep 24, 2006 01:32 PM

Another 100, not 50.

It's just that, unlike the 360, the shit included in the premium package this time around is completely useless.

Slayer X Sep 24, 2006 01:41 PM

The premium of the PS3 has the Wi-Fi and the flash memory reader, and an extra 40GB (60GB total). Which is worth more then $100. So it's still a deal, therefore both the core and premium PS3s are decent packages where the core 360 was a bloody crime and M$ deserved a lot more flack then they got for putting that piece of shit package out.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Sep 24, 2006 03:25 PM

I can't see myself EVER using the flash memory reader, to be honest. Whoopee? I can use my PSP memory card or the CF from a digital camera for...what? I dunno. Probably nothing terribly interesting. Just like how I don't use the PSP memory card for anything outside of game saves either.

And I doubt I'll use up much space at all on the hard drive. My 360 is close to a year old now and I've used up....maybe 150 megs or something in saves? I dunno, I'd have to look. Then close to another 750 MBs for DLC over however many games? Assuming that the saves and shit that goes onto the PS3 hard drive are of even remotely similar size, I can't imagine myself using up too much HDD space unless I get something like an MMO.

And I suppose the built in wi-fi is the greatest argument for it. Every room in my apartment is wired for ethernet, so I don't have to worry about that myself. But this is the only practical component that might be important for GAMING with the machine.

And you forgot the HOT CHROME TRIM. (lol)

Mercury Sep 24, 2006 03:35 PM

The Wi-Fi could be useful to some, especially those who wants to put their PS3 in the living room, plugged in the home theater, and are not geeky enough to have a LAN access already in place there...

As it been said that there will there be a way to replace the HD, for say a 160GB one?

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Sep 24, 2006 03:37 PM

Metal Sphere said above that they will be swapable, yes.

And is running ethernet through the baseboards really that geeky anymore? Don't tell me I'm alone, guys. ;_;

Soldier Sep 24, 2006 03:46 PM

I use a wireless ethernet adaptor from Linksys, so unless Wifi is supposed to be faster or something, then that'll do just fine.

Slayer X Sep 24, 2006 03:50 PM

Colonel Skills: No, but Wi-Fi is still better.

Don't take this the wrong way, but just because you don't have a use for the more expensive features doesn't mean that they're useless. They're just that way to you.

Personally I won't use the memory card reader either, but the larger HDD would be great seeing how my 360 is ALWAYS full of demos and videos. As for the Wi-Fi I'm too lazy to run wire and if you look at it from the 360 point of view, think of it that you're paying for the $100 Wi-Fi attachment and getting the memory card reader and the extra 40GB for free.

Omnislash124 Sep 24, 2006 04:20 PM

Isn't Ethernet still faster than Wifi at this point? or has Wifi caught up? I personally would not mind a single ethernet cable running between a PS3 and a router if needed. And, I am inclined to agree, the XBox360's Core package was definitely lacking a lot of things.....too much to make you want to buy it. I mean, it was still functional, but marginally. The PS3, ironically, is the exact opposite. The Core package of the PS3 is fully functional already. The Premium PS3 is just extras that you really don't need. It may be nice to have, but you don't need it.

Slayer X Sep 24, 2006 04:25 PM

I couldn't have compared the bundles any better myself.

As for Wi-Fi, if you are running 802.11g (which most are) then as long as you're within 100ft of the router there is no difference in performance. If you're much further then 100ft or if you live in a house of stone or metal then you might want to consider going wired. If you want more accurate reports on Wi-Fi performance, then it is easy to find comparison reports via google.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Sep 24, 2006 04:50 PM

Soldier: Your wireless set up is the same basic thing here. Instead of running an ethernet cable to a wireless adaptor, you'd just be using the built in wireless of the PS3.

Slayer: Ahahaha, what? Wifi isn't "better" at all as far as pure speed or anything goes. It's slower than 10/100 ethernet, and WAY slower than gigabit LAN.

If you're going to talk about the speed of one's internet connection, you're right. But then again they could be using 802.11b and not notice a difference in their broadband speeds. Everyone should know this by now.

If you mean it's "better" simply because you don't have to trip over cables or take ten minutes to run them through the house, I guess that's true. But it's not "better" than an elegant wired solution in performance by any stretch, especially for a console that won't be moving around a lot and basically be sitting on your home theater rack for a number of years.

But if you're going to use the PS3's media connectivity features (which you seem keen on) by connecting it to your home network, the wired solution would be both more reliable and faster.

Slayer X Sep 24, 2006 04:55 PM

Who cares about the stats. The only part that matters is if it works fine for online gaming... and it does. I've run my 360 both ways and I've never had any problems due to the fact that I'm using Wi-Fi. The only times that you would NEED it wired is if you meet the exceptions that I mentioned earlier, or if you're streaming videos... that's it. You're not going to be doing anything else that requires more then 802.11g and if you do have a or be just spend the $40 and get a G router.

Soldier Sep 24, 2006 04:56 PM

In that case, I have no reason to replace my ethernet adaptor, which still works fine for PS2.

And again, you can get a HD with far more space for far less the price, if you wait for a rebate special. Maxtor brand 120GB for $20 is the norm. In fact, perhaps you can use some spare PC HDs and transfer stuff to the PS3. Maybe someone will even come up with the PS3 equivalent of HD Loader, at least for PS2 games.

As for the card reader, I haven't brushed up on what card slots the 60GB version has over the 20GB, but I did read that they'll release peripherals for the missing slots anyway, and that shouldn't cost more than $20-30.

So in total, you only need to spend around $40-$50 to get what's missing from the 20GB system, assuming you don't have any spare HDs lying around.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Sep 24, 2006 04:58 PM

Well, you went around touting it as "better", and I'm asking what you mean by that. It's not. It's often the simpler solution and has no real downsides outside of LAN speeds, but it's hardly "better". If you're going to say such a thing, you should expect someone to call you on it, that's all.

Slayer X Sep 24, 2006 05:00 PM

Hence the point of two options correct?


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