true, but if this continues to become an issue (at which it is not so much as before) would you think it would be right for people to protest about this display of affection in public? I mean, in all honesty, i would just be on the side for equality but what about those who refuse to let their hate for other colors die down and continue to teach children, grandchildren and so forth about the ways of racism? I am sure that eventually yes, interracial relationships will be nothing more than a typical male and a typical woman dating but how long is eventually?

Well, quite frankly, I believe racism, as wrong as it is, falls under the protections of the first amendment. If it is a harassment issue, then sure, that has to be put a stop to, but you really can't stop racism, even if you do try to legally censor it.

True, but if we can kill eachother over racisum it is fair to say that we are trying to do more than just censor it, we are willing to kill one another to make sure that we either live by the word or outcast it from the english language, in the end, both sides won...so who is to say that it will not happen again, as unlikely as it sounds.

Wooah I don't know what is up where you guys live but I'm about to marry a Chinese immigrant and I have gotten no problems from any of my friend. Her family came here when she was 11 so she has an accent. My family has given me nothing but support in my decision, her family on the other hand is a very conservative Chinese family so there has been some resistance from them. They like me so it hasn't caused too many problems. Most of their objects came from financial and age concerns, however once they realized that we were not going to bend by their pressure they supported our decision.

I do notice that we get stared at a lot while out walking around. Then again it might have to do with the fact that I am a foot taller than her :P

Well, there's not a whole lot of cultural difference between two folks who live close together.

The only way I can see you thinking that different races have entirely different cultures in the same country, where these races aren't actively at war or segregated, is if you think culture is determined by musical taste and how you dress.

Darky please.

we are talking about relationships/newly weds. Yes over time this will obviously disappear/spouse will get used to it.


Get out in the real world, open your eyes a bit. There's cultural differences that go with being of a different race, yes, even in this 'melting pot' you call the United States. I beg you to find anybody else that will say otherwise.

And I didn't say entirely different cultures. Maybe your problem is interpreting my words to mean something they never actually said.

But whatever =/

isn't that what makes 'culture'? I mean, sure not all races are going to be different culturally but it doesn't mean they are all the same. I don't believe that DarkLink is trying to say that Music and Clothes are what makes culture, he is just pointing out that sometimes music and clothes can contribute to different culture in different races. Even so, this doesn't make sense on how interracial couples and cultural differences are the same discussion. And just because different races live in the same country doesn't mean they all go by the same cultures, that is what makes this country so different because everyone has freedom of religion and culture.

Do you reckon most people date folks who live far away, or close by?

Oh, so when you say cultural differences, but not entirely different cultures, you mean that they like different music, they wear different brands of shoes and they are on opposite sides of The Great Pepsi / Coke Debate, right?

Can you be any more of a fucktard? Are you just being difficult because you think its funny, or are you really this fucking dumb? I've explained myself well enough that I'm pretty sure most other people in this thread know what I'm talking about, and thats good enough for me.

No.

I know what he's trying to say, but the problem is that he's mistaken.

He, and you, are missing the forest for the trees.

Freedom of culture makes no sense. You made that up, first of all, and second of all, are you too suggesting that people who live in close proximity will not share a large amount of 'culture' due to race, insomuch as culture is a quantifiable thing?

Please, just think about this before you reply. Ignore the fact that the internet is irritating you and try to think about this critically before replying.

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Since you're illiterate, what I am trying to say is that the cultural differences between two races in the same general area are about as significant as the cultural differences between two classes of people in the same area.

You are not good at thinking. :mad:

You aren't good at explaining yourself clearly. What it sounds like is that you are just trying to write off cultural differences as though they don't even exist (at least as a marital problem). Or that I'm just trying to write 'culture' off as what music people listen to or what clothes they wear.

Race is only an object when it comes to cultural differences when specific group of people has the means to isolate and segregate different group from one another, be it political means or economical mean (in which discrimination and abuses inevitably occurs) , but then, that is a social consequence to the "concept" of race. However, historically this has never really stopped the cross pollination of culture between people of different races. I personally don't think it is as much of a cultural issue but rather then a class issue and how people perceived the concept of "race" itself.

What century is your town stuck in? Around here, interracial is so common that nobody even remarks on it. There are some types of pairing you never see, but other than that...

IT's hardly my fault you have no creativity.

I am not, but you are. My wingman explained it very elegantly, even you should be able to understand.

I seem to recall way back in the thread you putting THESE words in my mouth.

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If I have to use creativity to decipher your posts, you need to go take an english course. I don't assume people mean anything beyond what they say. It's stupid to do otherwise.

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Or perhaps when you put THESE words in my mouth:

So just stop. If you think this, then fine, but don't just automatically assume its what I'm trying to say.

Well, the century my town is stuck in is this century. Although you may live somewhere it is accepted, that doesn't mean that all towns are the same way. I am glad that it is common where you live, and maybe your town can inspire others, but at the moment there is such a thing as people frowning upon interracial couples.

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Oh, and i didn't notice this before but if you are from Britain, than this sorta thing is probably very uncommon, actually, it is probably uncommon for most European nations. So i guess that might need to be taken into consideration because not every nation is the same obviously and some states in those nations are sided differently on certain issues such as Interracial couples.

I'm just saying I had no idea. No idea at all. It has been this way in my area for a good few years now, and I had just no idea at all that this was still an issue in America. What state do you live in? I assume these attitudes vary from state to state.

Seriously, this thread comes as a colossal shock to me. Over here, people date whoever they find attractive. Admittedly, that's only been the case with recent generations, but still, I thought that everywhere was like this. The phrase "interracial couple" just never gets said.

Heh, over here (meaning America) something like that sounds almost like heaven for some. Yea, well where i live is California, where it is not as looked down upon but it still is not in best interest by some. Most of the youth have come to accept the idea but the older seem to still dislike it sometimes. Mostly parents. I figured that since Britain never really had as bad of issues concerning Africans like America does (i mean we had a civil war for god sake) so naturally the word interracial is probably never used there...

The Afro/Carribean people who came here first were invited. We said to the people in the West Indies "Please come here! We need more people. We have jobs we can't fill". Naturally there was some racial tension at first, but overall, it's not on the same level as in America, and never has been. I guess when you mention the civil war, that does help to put things in perspective.

There are still racists here, and there always have been, but racism is a minority view now. It's not a paradise of equality, there's always some racial tension, but overall, we never had the whole segregation issue to contend with, as far as I know. It just never quite got that bad. Back to the subject of interracial couples, I think that probably you have to go back 3 generations at least since it's been a big issue for the majority. Maybe I just live in a nice area, if other British people want to set me straight, I'm interested to hear it.

Well, in honesty i am glad that the world hasn't been succumb to racism and like said before, the Civil War does play a big role in racism in America. Sadly, because of all the things going on with 'open borders' and so many races it becomes a hassle to try and get rid of racism when everyone finds more and more problems with each new group of immigrants coming in. Although i think that thankfully in California that since most of the new generation take no discrimination when picking relationships, although it really comes down to mental ideals of why a person is attracted to certain skin color and etc. but as long as parents (which is the main problem) don't teach their children racism then America could very well be as equal as Britain
(Which is a lot coming from a pure White male)

So you're saying it's stupid to assume people use double-meaning or speak vaguely. Wow.

Well, since you ignored SCHNEE-5, I'll reiterate succinctly: between two folks of roughly the same geographical position, assuming all other things like class are the same, and also assuming there aren't barriers between the two people - warfare, segregation, that sort of thing - the cultural differences are negligible to such a degree as they can be ignored. Personality is more impacting at this point.

That's why you must think culture can be boiled down into goods marketed towards blacks and whites, if you think the culture difference can be prohibitive enough to give pause. But you're right, this whole time, I've been assuming you are able to communicate your thoughts effectively. That was foolish of me. Tell me then, what do you think are the cultural differences between two starry-eyed kids in America today?

I'm saying I don't have enough faith in fucktards like you to have enough intelligence to mean anything more than what they actually say. Safer than sticking words in people's mouths.

Wow, you finally figured it out. Do you want a cookie?

You think I'm a fucktard (that's Zeph by the way) because you are incapable of reading sublety. You further think I am incapable of sublety because I am a fucktard. Just who do you think you're kidding?

You're the one who says newlyweds have to be CAREFUL, because of the cultural differences that come with being interracial. Can I take this to mean you are now abandoning your position?

Since when does your culture not affect your personality?

See what I mean about being dumb enough to read too far into what people say? You have the worst habit of just assuming people mean more than what they say.

Oh, and by the way, you didn't use sublety. That's just your lame excuse for typing a bunch of bullshit & putting words in my mouth.