I agree wholeheartedly with Omagnus, why is it so wrong to just buy a game to have a laugh with it? Let's face it, a full price computer game costs about the same as a night out these day, often less so if I've got at least five hours enjoyment out of it then that represents good value for money in my book. I don't feel the need to invest hundreds of hours getting good at something in order to justify buying the thing in the first place.

I own plenty of games I'm not that good at and I've had hours of fun playing them online, even against randoms who are much better at them than I am. Sure sometimes you get taken apart in quick order but that doesn't neccessarily make it less fun. Personally I can enjoy something without winning all the time.

The idea that someone wouldn't play a game online if they weren't serious about becoming the greatest player ever is a stupid one, simple as that. Manny, are you one of those people who quits out of games they can no longer mathematically win? People like that are the reason I don't play online at all as much as I used to, what's wrong with just playing games for the fun of playing them?

And yes Omagnus, I'm bang up for that assuming this is under £15 or so.

Yeah, should be grabbing that. I'm interested to see how the controls handle, and most importantly how well the swinging mechanic has been implemented, since those are the bits that make me question whether or not this will get a purchase. I'm pretty sure Skills is planning to get it too, so with a few more we should be able to set up some private matches (provided the demo supports that).

Absolutely. I've been aching for a multiplayer game with some vertical action forever.

Okay, I apologize for getting you guys all riled up. Thank you Shin for at least answering the question.

Just read about this:

http://psp.ign.com/articles/977/977050p1.html

Tekken 6 for the PSP? Finally something entertaining to play while on the shitter!

Nah man, I can't play it for 30 hours this week so it won't be worth the asking price. :(

I take it you don't own a DS, then.

I do. Just finished all the games that I currently own.

Then you obviously need a flash cart.

Yes because naturally the solution to "I've completed all the games I own" is "Well then you need to pirate some games" not "Buy some more". -__-

But Omagnus, if he wasn't going to buy them anyway then they've not lost out on any revenue have they? Everyone's a winner!

/me minimises the window on his pirated copy of Civ IV and acts nonchalant

Sticking it to da man, hell yeah.

Bionic Commando demo is live. See you guys on there.

EDIT: Holy shit, the grappling mechanics aren't that bad!

EDIT 2: Online competitive play sucks, though. Is there going to be online co-op in the full game? That might have potential.

Since there's probably a bunch of us who will be chatting about this game more over the next few days I've put up a new thread for BC discussion:

http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/vi...-commando.html

I would have posted this in the Call of Duty 4 thread, but really that thing is long dead and so I'll stick it here.

Now I like Infinity Ward as a dev, and I love me some Call of Duty 4 since it is a fantastic game and the online MP was some of the best going until the number of cheaters and glitches became too many for it to be any fun anymore. In the world of "Where was this a fucking year ago?!" news, IW are finally attempting to patch the game to stop cheaters.

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I mean really, seriously, where the fuck was this a year ago?! This is very much a case of too little, waaaaaay too late. Right now I'd rather they spend their time make sure people can't glitch and cheat the fuck out of Modern Warfare 2.

I know the submission process is bullshit, but the PC version had these fixes a year back. While I'm appreciative, too little, waaaay too late is the understatement of the year.

Maybe they'll add a delay in fire rate for some weapons so assholes with shit like this end up losing out.

I think they lost out the day they spent $130 just to improve their reload rate in a computer game.

Oh nice, maybe once this patch is out, my idiot friends will go back to CoD4 so I won't have to play CoD:WaWateredDown anymore.

This doesn't warrant it's own thread but this weekend Microsoft are throwing the Xtival, the best part of which is all silver memberships count as gold for the weekend so Qwarky can play people online for a couple of days. I imagine there'll also be some new dlc, probably for the music games and maybe a new t-shirt or some shit for your avatar.

Most of us are cheap asses these days. Such as myself.

Not all of us have money to blow on games. :(

First of all, don't say 'most' when you're speaking on your own behalf alone. There may be other 'cheap asses' here who think like you, but unless you're the head of some union you're representing own opinion, nothing more.

Also I wasn't mocking the fact that you choose to pirate games, more the fact that your default move to running out of games was 'well you need to pirate some'. You may not be able to afford to buy brand new games, and that sucks for you, but that doesn't make that attitude OK.

Regardless, all this is discussion for another thread, it certainly doesn't belong in the news thread, so if you want to continue this please feel free to start a thread on it or PM me.

I couldn't find any women to sleep with me last weekend so I did the obvious thing and raped some bitch. I mean, it's not like her pussy healed up after or anything, she can still use it so it's a victimless crime right?

Some people would say that if you can't afford luxury items like games then you should go without until you can afford them. Hell, it's not like games are even that expensive these days. I remember paying £60 for Killer Instinct when it came out in the 90's. You can get three new games for that now, not even taking into consideration inflation.

Anyway, in more exciting news Ubisoft have announced their lineup for the coming year and there's a new Ghost Recon game in it. Also Splinter Cell, Red Steel and Assasin's Creed (Which we all knew about anyway). No mention of a new Rainbow game but they tend to stagger Rainbow and GR games from one year to the next as they're pretty interchangeable. The new one is tagged GR4 (GRAW being 3) which suggests a fundemental departure of some sort from GRAW although there wasn't a huge step up from GR and Island Thunder to GR2 and Summit Strike. Anyway, I'll be keeping an eye on this because I fucking love Tom Clancy games, even if they are all the same.

Which reminds me, I really ought to play GRAW 2 at some point.

I saw some news today that had Ubisoft saying that they're starting to prepare for the next generation of games consoles. Fuck that. Perhaps it's just me, but I don't even feel like we're even at the mid-point of this generation's life yet, let alone near ready to be thinking about another one.

I'm amused by Splinter Cell being mentioned again, since I'd assumed that had slipped off the face of the planet. Will be interesting to see what sort of shape it appears in once they start showing something.

Two years ago they showed their Jack Bauer Sam Fisher hiding in plain sight stealth Splinter Cell that looked hilariously bad, then like you said, it fell off the face of the earth. Hopefully they've spent the last couple of years ditching that idea and making something that isn't retarded.