Same here. There's a load of difference between "playing Venom" and "playing the guy who WILL become Venom". Grace could just be speaking about the future when he mentions himself as Venom, when in reality he could only be playing Eddie Brock and nothing else for now. Hopefully this isn't the case and the true Venom does make an appearance.

So you still don't think Grace is going to be Brock/Venom?

I thought Church was playing Sandman, not Venom

While I'd still prefer The Lizard over Venom (or any other villain), I think Raimi and his crew can pull off Venom. It almost sounds like there will be a side-story.

"...and this is what Venom is going to be doing."

But with Spider-Man being in a different attire, this can go in many directions. It sounds like they might introduce Venom halfway through. It's fun to speculate; I bet everyone could list a dozen ideas and the odds are, Raimi will surprise us.

The first shot of "Venom" in that trailer looks pretty convincing, but that shot of Spawn in the end with the crappy mouth just slapped on is hilarious.

And I thought Sam Raimi hated Venom. Oh well.

Woops. Fixed.

Has this even been confirmed? People are too quick to say that since the teaser poster has Spidey in black - he must be wearing a new costume!

But if you actually look at the damn thing - you realized that the ENTIRE picture is in that color tone. For all we know, its just a cloudy day.

It was confirmed in the official site that it was a new costume. It even dispelled the color tone theory that you just mentioned.

Offical site? PM the link please

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/index.php

Click on 'Daily Bugle' - where you'll eventually find:

"You may think you’re looking at a black and white photo. Look closely, Spider-Man wears a black suit in Spider-Man 3."

I saw it prior to posting my statement, so I wouldn't be too quick to judge. Though I admit, before I read the official content on the site, I thought he wasn't wearing the classic black/white costume.

That picture is the teaser poster I just cited though.

Yes, but my response was in regards to you wondering if Spider-Man was wearing a black suit or not. I wanted to confirm to you that the official site states that it is for real, and not the result of a cloudy day.

As long as Carnage is introduced somewhere near the end, I'll give a crap.

Okay, I just have to step in with all this Carnage talk; it ain't happening. There's just no way you can market a mass serial killer whose own suit is composed of his own blood (at least it was the last time I checked, way back in Maximum Carnage) to a PG-13 audience (still mostly composed of kids), not unless you want Carnage seriously gimped.

Honestly, Carnage had his moments back in the day, but overall I find him inferior to Venom. Venom has a cooler design and a cooler backstory (eternal hatred for Spidey). Carnage is just a psycho who wants to kill anything that isn't him, which I always felt was a little out of place in Spider-Man.

Maybe they could implement the Ultimate Carnage, an inhuman creature created from Peter's DNA, but I don't see, or really desire, the original showing up in the movies.

lol please, leave.

lol please, read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnage_%28comics%29

Even if you omit that part, he's still a redneck serial killer. How would you market a character like that for a massively marketed movie like this?

while i think that an appearance of carnage in spidey 3 would be the dumbest fucking idea in the world...

when you said:

dude, do you actually live in the US? People can market anything!!! Especially a redneck serial killer! It was called Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and it was so marketable that they did a remake that made them a fortune.

How funny would it be if the venom talk is all a plot by sony pics to generate a ton of hype. I can see them all around a table... "sweet, church just said the "v" word in an interview! all the fanboys are gonna go nuts!" Everybody will be disappointed when Grace (who plays a nobody bystander) gets killed by Sandman (or Harry as the GG) in the first 15mins of the movie. All the venom fanboys will cry.

And the kids loved it.

That's the kind of audience that makes up a large percentage of Spidey movie fans: kids. And besides that point, the movie is very mainstream. If they try to make someone like Carnage the main badguy, it would be all over the media, stirring controversy all over. The kind of controvery Sony wouldn't want for one of their biggest franchises.

Eh, calling a cat a dog doesn't make it so. The fact that we see Darth Vader in Anakin's shadow on the Phantom Menace poster doesn't mean that it happens in the movie.

Does no one understand artistic liberty any more?

Lehah, when sony pics states "...Spider-Man wears a black suit in Spider-Man 3." it might just mean that he will wear a black suit.

Which is irrelevant. The official Star Wars website didn't officially state that Darth Vader will appear in the Phantom Menace. The Spider-Man website, however, does state Spider-Man is wearing his black costume and it isn't a black/white photo.

Sure, we could just wait until the movie's debut to be 100% certain, but when the website is literally spelling it out and we've seen numerous interviews confirming Venom, I'm leaning to the 'He's wearing a bloody black outfit' side.

Does no one understand artistic liberty any more?[/QUOTE]

Nope.

Black Spidey=confirmed.

Eddie Brock=pretty much confirmed.

Eddie Brock turning into Venom in this movie=still sorta iffy.

Like I said, even if he does get the suit by the end of the movie, I'll still be disappointed unless we at least get a brief scuffle with Spidey and Venom. Having Venom appear in full is nice, but I want to see him in action.

And sometimes when they list David Hayter as the writer of X-Men - they actually mean the eight uncredited people that worked on it prior.

If you think thats a photograph, you need to get your eyes checked, son.

apples and oranges buddy. they say, "spidey will wear a black suit" and "here's a picture of spidey in a black suit... no this is not a black and white picture." what part of that don't you understand? why must you read into shit? "no no, can't you all see! it's a black and white pic" or "it's cloudy out; you'd look black in that lighting too!" Do you just hate the idea of black suit spidey in the next movie?

call me crazy, but i'm slightly inclined to believe that he may have a black suit in the movie.

Not so much as that no one can quantify shit so far. It seems somewhat stupid on part of Sony - if you want to show a black costume, you dont make the surrounding picture dark.