3 characters confirmed. We obviously know about Daimon and Beth but these two :

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Psycho Soldier Team completed! (without Bao..again) But damn Sie Kensou's badass now..

Wow, the game looks wonderful! I may just have to bust out with the 'ol NeoGeo console and play some KOF 98!!!

Where'd Kensou's humorously shaped chin go? At least he looks more like his profile art now compared to in KOF XI. Now all I need is to here Joe is coming back.

His movements in the vids are top notch. Anyway. This is the final 3 for KOFXII. Only thing i dont understand is why beth isn't in the roster when she was featured in the Promo-posters..

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So it kind of makes sense how the teams are set up.

Team - Joe, Terry , Andy
Ikari Warriors - Clark, Ralf, Leona
Psycho Soldiers - Chin, Kensou, Athena
2K3 Team - Ash, Duolon, Shen Woo
Team Japan - Kyo,Benimaru,Goro Daimon
Art of Fighting - Ryo , Robert Garcia
Fatal Fury - Kim, Raiden
Single Characters : Iori, Elizabeth.

Yeah we know its 21 edit characters.. Still, I believe the home versions will have more characters than the arcade. This brand new KOF game is long overdue yet..worth taking it's time.

It's nice to see Joe hasn't under gone the steroid treatment that Terry, Ralf and Clark seem to have gone through.

No Vanessa, no Gato, no Jenet.

Boo. I seriously hope the home versions put more in there. But frankly, I hope they retired Mai for good.

Get the fuck out.

Seriously? She's one of SNK's cheerleaders O.o;. Though.. if it was up to me, I'd have Mary on board. This looks more like a sausage fest.

I'd hate for wapanese thirteen year olds everywhere to lose their mascot, but at the same time, she's a shit character.

But then what would you have to get self-righteous about?

Oh...lots of things.

"I hope the character composed entirely of ambulatory boobs doesn't come back!"

"FUCK YOU I LOVE AMBULATORY BOOB-CHAN."

"But... she's just an ambulatory boob, there's no reason to—"

"YOU CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND MY HEART."

So it's basically appearances that make you shiver and not want her around =/

No, I think she's honestly a worthless character, but the slavish fanservice doesn't improve my opinion.

I guess. I'll be honest, I never used but went against her online in CVS2, she isn't too bad of a character. However, I can agree with you that she's worthless ONLY because she has the same moveset since forever. If they change that, I'd be interested to see what it's like and maybe you would change your perspective about her. Not counting her storyline (if one ever existed for her)..

The fact that her moveset hasn't changed in forever isn't what makes her useless. Plenty of characters have had as much or less change to their movesets.

You done trying to falsify an argument for me, Pang?

Yeah, I was done about 9 hours ago

You can stay mad if you want though

I'm not though, though the whole "We're on a message board" thing would go without saying, leave it to Pang!

Mai's a good character, decent rushdown. Especially in Real Bout. I realize you guys want to get harped up on design, but a decent character is a decent character. You guys sound like the people who want E Honda out of Street Fighter cause he's "just a fat sumo."

Well, theoretically, if you could replace Honda with a character who played similarly but didn't have a hilariously generic design, why not?

Other than misplaced nostalgia, I mean

Most fighting game designs are hilariously generic. In the end, we could have stick figures throwing shit at each other with the properly designated hit boxes and it'd work just as well. But "misplaced nostalgia", as you call it, is what that character is about. There's no arguing that she's some brilliant character design, it'd just be as gay to strike her from the record to appease some noncommittal faggot rather than keep all parties who play equally happy. There's a niche, she fills it, and at the end of the day you're only bothered by the skin rather than the core game itself. If you want to remove context from a video game, go right ahead, I doubt you have anything meaningful to say about it other than trying to score points on the wit scale over a comment that wasn't even about that.

"Mai has kind of a shitty design."

"Design isn't everything, E. Honda's design is also not great but that doesn't mean he should be eliminated."

"E. Honda's not perfect, so why not try to improve on his formula as well?"

"STOP TRYING TO SCORE WIT POINTS AGAINST ME, PANG. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS SCORE POINTS!!"

What the fuck, man.

Just. What. The. Fuck. Look, how about this. Why don't you go ahead and just, like... I don't know. Go ahead set me to Ignore, or something, because there is this totally incomprehensible gulf between the things I say and the paranoid way you choose to interpret them.

Christ.

I'm not even going to try to address the notion that a game comprised entirely out of hitboxes and nothing else is somehow just as good.

Oh fuck off, Pang. You knew what you wanted to do the instant your fingers hit the keyboard. Again, what's your fucking point? To insert a more aesthetically pleasing character over one with an established history in the franchise? Like that's gonna happen with anyone in SNK or Capcom from the 1980s. You're no more going to remove Mai Shiranui from SNK than you are Michael Jordan from the Chicago Bulls' highlight reels. Saying she's a stereotype is hilarious considering the time she came out and the medium she's in. Good luck revising history.

Where does that say "improve?" Tell me what "replace" says about improving visual design of the exact character? I went with what you said, not with what you might have "meant." I realize trying to manipulate what I fucking say is clever as you try to call me out on doing the same thing, but telling me to place you on ignore takes the gay to a whole 'nother level for you.

KoF XII is full of SNK nostalgia. From resetting Kyo's gameplay back to his 94 roots, to putting Terry back in his Fatal Fury digs and Athena/Kensou into their Psycho Soldier outfits. Yes, Mai's design is your generic anime ninja, but she's been around long enough that removing her from the series would be a nice exercise in gay. Seriously, your whole argument here stems on looking down at enthusiasts that what they enjoy. What's the point in that? You think Harry Potter fans don't know that what they like boils down basic fantasy archetypes penned by a wordy hack? Yes, curse them tasteless fans. So much will come of that. Is there really a point to that other than establishing your noncommittal ass wants a different character in a game you'll probably only play for 3 months? Good luck. Mai's not going anywhere and expecting her to disappear out of some principle is hilarious.

You're not wrong that Mai is just a big walking set of mammaries, just unnecessarily gay about what should come of that regarding her place in the franchise. You know, going on 20 years.

Too bad. I like how they eventually also made Mai's arse jiggle in the KoF games, a HD Mai could go all the way with complex cellulite for that full walkin', fightin' jelly experience.

God, Infernal, haven't you looked at the America stage already? It's already got fat people doing jigglin' and eating pizza and having an obese ol' time.