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Grawl May 19, 2007 05:55 AM

I told you guys so :3

Mucknuggle May 19, 2007 06:45 AM

The cartoony 3d is very interesting. It looks good, but I think the game deserves a more realistic look.

Lukage May 19, 2007 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BigHairyFeet (Post 435983)
It would be so Blizzard to have that Korean text say something like "This Christmas/Fall", "January 2008", etc :D.

November 20th, apparently.

Two thousand seven.

Ahahahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahahhahaha yeah fucking right.

Malahk Angel May 19, 2007 08:01 AM

Bricks have been shat. Many of them.

I'm quite excited now that Blizzard is finally delivering in some sense.

SouthJag May 19, 2007 09:07 AM

Hahahaha of fuck I'm glad I upgraded my machine. The game looks pretty solid thus far from the three gameplay trailers up on IGN, and I like the new Protoss voices. Jesus fuckin' Christ this makes my whole week. Thank you Blizzard.

BlueMikey May 19, 2007 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight (Post 435998)
AHHHH, then this gives the inkling of a possibility that it could maybe possibly perhaps in the future SOMEHOW land on the Xbox 360 and I won't have to worry about upgrading my PC!

SCORE ONE FOR THE CONSOLE BOYS.

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Originally Posted by starcraft2.com
Will there be a console version of StarCraft II?

StarCraft II is being developed for the PC. We have no current plans to bring the game to any console platform.

In their FAQ section.

Slayer X May 19, 2007 10:41 AM

God damn! This is going to be sweet. This is why Blizard is one of the greatest developers of all time. They don't come out with a slew of games at once and take their time. Also they don't fuck with shit that ain't broke.

StarCraft 2 Features:
Fast-paced, hard-hitting, tightly balanced competitive real-time strategy gameplay that recaptures and improves on the magic of the original game

Three completely distinct races: Protoss, Terran, and Zerg

New units and gameplay mechanics further distinguish each race

Groundbreaking single-player "story-mode" campaign

Vibrant new 3D-graphics engine with support for dazzling visual effects and massive unit and army sizes

Full multiplayer support, with new competitive features and matchmaking utilities available through Battle.net

Full map-making and scripting tools to give

See this is how you make a sequel ^^

Jazz: Seeing how the last console port of StarCraft was possibly one of the games that killed RTSs on consoles, I don't think StarCraft 2 will be rushing to any consoles. However if it did, the only system that would make sense would be the PS3 for it's Mouse & Keyboard support.

JazzFlight May 19, 2007 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 436094)
Jazz: Seeing how the last console port of StarCraft was possibly one of the games that killed RTSs on consoles, I don't think StarCraft 2 will be rushing to any consoles. However if it did, the only system that would make sense would be the PS3 for it's Mouse & Keyboard support.

I don't know if you've played LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth II or Command and Conquer 3 for the 360, but their controls (with a standard controller) are great for an RTS.

Slayer X May 19, 2007 12:28 PM

Well LOTR all you had to do is rush the opponents with hordes of men hence why that game worket. C&C3 kind of works, the experiance is slowed down due to the inpercise controls. Sure it works, but not too well for thoes who use all the advanced techniques and quick keys.

Seeing how StarCraft is bigger then both thoes games, I could just see the outcry from fans everywhere if SC2 came to a console that didn't have at least K&M support. If it came to consoles at all that is. Lastly unlike EA, Blizzard isn't fluent in console archetecture, so the likeliness of it hitting consoles at all is even slimmer.

Lord Jaroh May 19, 2007 01:15 PM

I don't think I've ever been happier being proved wrong! Hopefully the quality of the game will hold up to the original.

Maybe my dreams of a "true" Diablo III will finally come true...

Slayer X May 19, 2007 01:19 PM

Well Diablo 2 launched two years after StarCraft 1 so hopefully we'll see a Diablo 3, 2-3 years after StarCraft 2. Or at least we can always dream of hoping.

Dark Nation May 19, 2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 436094)
Also they don't fuck with shit that ain't broke.

You don't know how relieved I was after I saw the gameplay footage and screenshots. In the back of my mind, I was afraid they were going to pull a C&C: Generals on us. Thankfully that does not seem to be the case.

Guru May 19, 2007 02:18 PM

I wouldn't expect any major graphic overhauls from what we see now. Mostly what they're going to work out during the alpha and beta stages are game balance more than anything, since that's the most important aspect of a strategy title.

They've been working on SC2 since WC3:TFT was released, so they've already had about 3 years to come up with the graphics we see now. And if you've learned anything about Blizzard over the years, it should be that their art department isn't keen on redesigning their graphics.

To be honest, they're pretty cool. I like them. ;)

Kimchi May 19, 2007 02:20 PM

I hope they don't shut downStarcraft after starcraft2 comes out

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Originally Posted by ign
As popular as StarCraft was on these shores, it doesn't come close to the enthusiasm the game still enjoys in Asia, where televised, professional matches are held regularly. Blizzard has an event coming up in Korea where they are expected to make a large announcement, so it could very well be that the company has chosen the area where StarCraft is the most popular to announce its sequel.

Once that happens say bye bye to pros.

Lol I hope it doesn't kill all of those animation-timing techniques that were on the first one =.=

Yggdrasil May 19, 2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NaYa NuhYa (Post 436161)
I hope they don't shut downStarcraft after starcraft2 comes out

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Originally Posted by Starcraft 2 FAQ section
Will we still be able to play the original StarCraft on Battle.net after StarCraft II is released?

Yes, you will.

So if Starcraft 2 turns out to be the kinda game Warcraft 3 was for the warcraft RTS franchise, at least you have a fallback.

Auditor May 19, 2007 03:14 PM

Hot damn..the only game that will make me upgrade my PC.
And I hope it can surpass the original (in terms of gameplay), since none of the original members/developers are left.

Yggdrasil May 19, 2007 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Auditor (Post 436182)
Hot damn..the only game that will make me upgrade my PC.
And I hope it can surpass the original, since none of the original members/developers are left.

I wouldn't say 'none' of its original developers are left. If I remember correctly the majority of people who left blizzard were the folks behind Diablo. Who are now working under Flagship Studios and working on Diablo3 Hellgate London.

orion_mk3 May 19, 2007 04:34 PM

Everything I hoped for and more. I can see their strategy now: simple, effective, devastating.

2008 - Startcraft 2 RTS

2010 - Starcraft 2 RTS expansion where things end badly for the heroes.

2012 - Universe of Starcraft MMORPG

Dopefish May 19, 2007 05:26 PM

I think I'll get this. Looks like it will be a fantastic game.

nazpyro May 19, 2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Auditor (Post 436182)
Hot damn..the only game that will make me upgrade my PC.

Truth-ing this. For the first time in almost 6 years, I want a gaming rig again. =p

Monkey King May 19, 2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 436159)
I wouldn't expect any major graphic overhauls from what we see now. Mostly what they're going to work out during the alpha and beta stages are game balance more than anything, since that's the most important aspect of a strategy title.

These aren't mutually exclusive. The programming team is separate from the art team, so while they're designing the rest of the game and tweaking unit balance, the art team can go right on messing with the graphics independently of everyone else.

Unless of course the art team is occupied with the task of finishing the art for all the units we didn't see in the initial teasers, which is entirely possible. Still, when the game is inevitibly delayed, that'll give the artists more time to tweak things.

Dark Nation May 19, 2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey King (Post 436302)
These aren't mutually exclusive. The programming team is separate from the art team, so while they're designing the rest of the game and tweaking unit balance, the art team can go right on messing with the graphics independently of everyone else.

I can't say with any reliable area of certainty, but in MOST 3D Applications, the skin & the general build of a character can be swapped out for something else, as long as its structurally near the same.

So for example, if I have a fighter pilot, a human, bipid, 2 legs, 2 arms, head, etc., I can swap the 3D Model of the pilot and replace with it the model & skin of say, a jedi from Star Wars. Since they have the same basic skeleton underneath, all that would likely be required is to adjust the areas of influence in the lightsaber and the Robes. This is what I got at least from 3Ds Max and the way Blizzard maps their characters is probably not as exact or as close to that as it might seem. Still, given that the protoss and terran units are generally bipeds and walk up right, it wouldn't be too hard to swap out the models for something different in the future, say a graphical change from somewhat-cartoony to a more gritty & dirty appearance.

The Zerg however are a different story and since I have no experience in non-human modelling I can't really comment on how they would change up the units for those.

pompadork May 19, 2007 10:04 PM

There's literally nothing dissapointing about it so far.

Yggdrasil May 19, 2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation (Post 436318)
Still, given that the protoss and terran units are generally bipeds and walk up right, it wouldn't be too hard to swap out the models for something different in the future, say a graphical change from somewhat-cartoony to a more gritty & dirty appearance.

Given that the last 3 games Blizzard has made (Warcraft 3 and its expansion and World of Warcraft) have all had this cartoon like appearance I'd have to say that the chances of Blizzard going back and all of a sudden changing the style to a more realistic appearance is small.


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