I took a class on the subject of "hot" and what I can say is that it's the media's unfair portrayal of women. Barbie, for example, is physically impossible. And anything that I can say would be not to try to be those girls on TV. You just can't win, and us guys think it's kind of icky.

I like long hair as much as anybody on this forum, but I like shoulder-length hair, too, mainly because it looks nicer and shows a sense of style, something that I like very much. And of course I drool over the few "perfect" girls around, but by perfect I mean the following:

-Having an air of entitlement. You can't have me = :O. Just don't be too aggressive.
-Having a sense of style (Doing something either simple or different, both is awesome). Most of all, make sure you're comfortable in your clothes, because if it's restricting anything, we just can't relate. Obviously.
-Not looking like they chuck, sorry to say, but that's usually kind of gross. I like them thin, but not breakable.
-Smile, darn you! That's one for the money, right there. Many a girl I stopped liking because they looked like they were having a bad day, 24/7.
-Not pretending to look pretty, like the girls that put on their makeup with a paintbrush just looks scary. And it's true-us guys don't notice makeup very much. Out school had a "no-makeup day" and nobody looked any different.
-Nothing revealing enough that we feel naughty looking at you. If it was in Men in Black II, don't wear it in public.

Personality wise, we love:
-Smarts
-Respect (but not submission)
-Humor
-Yeah, we'll listen to you, but listen to us every once in a while, too.

The best advice I can give is to be a step or two below perfect. Don't do your best. Perfect just alienates us.

Just remember: you can't please all of us, but if there's one you suspect to looking at you more ofter than not, find out pronto and ask him out. We're much too scared with all the big jock-types to even give a try. Waiting will only give you sadness.

Written by a knowlegable High Schooler.

Hmm.

Strictly on looks
First of all I like when girls dress like girls. Not like a man, and not like a whore. There's a ton of stuff in between so seeing a girl in baggy pants and a tshirt is annoying. First things I notice because they're what I like best would be: 1. Hair. I'm not as obsessed with it being long on girls anymore, even see a few girls with really short hair that I can consider hot. Don't like it too thin though, thick is always good. Tend to stray towards anything but yellow blonde. After that just the general physique of the girl. Mainly chest, not too big or too small. Waist, which as long as it isnt huge I don't care too much about. A little ASS is nice, but ultimately one of the last physical things I care about. I notice height a lot, but could care less really as long as she's shorter than me. And as long as she takes care of her face I'm not too critical about looks.

Personality
Willing to show her sense of humor. Nothing forced, and not too uptight. Sometimes I love serious/angry girls because of the challenge, but this gets old quick if it goes on too long. Other than that I like a girl that isn't fucking ignorant, and that is outgoing but can stick around home with me too.

Of course, not all of this is necessary for me to be happy.

I really like this definition. It's not so much that guys only care about 'looks'; they care about whether or not a girl can take care of herself. Or about total intellectual giants, but a girl who lolzhatesreading isn't worth much of a damn.

I'd imagine it's the same with women on men, too.

There are still some guys out there who I am SURE don't care about intelligence and only looks, and vice versa, but those are jackasses and losers, respectively.

Laziness is the ultimate turn-off.

body
 

i agree with the theory of "face then body"

Obviously I notice physical features first, because I see them before I talk to them, unless it's somekind of odd arrangement like I know them through friends and talk to them on the phone or through e-mail, first.

I think a lot of it has to do with the way a woman carries herself, too. Personality is part of that. Shitty personality is obviously a deal breaker. Being shy is fine, but sometimes being really nice makes it hard for me to perceive their feelings, which is sort of a turn off. Then again, being intelligent and open is really important to me, it's something I strive to foster within myself.

I can't really say one way or another on make-up, some girls make the make-up work really well for them. I don't think anyone should hold it against a woman (or a man for that matter) trying to compliment their appearance. If it's a dating situation, it shows that they care enough to present themselves. Another obvious point: wearing a lot of make-up in most cases is a huge turn-off.

I can point to one recent case with someone I know from work, she has a badass personality, but a lot of the guys at work don't find her attractive, for whatever reason (I personally thought that she had a cute face and great hair, but...). She came to the Christmas party we had for the command, and she was absolutely stunning. She had a just a little bit of mascara and some eye-shadow/liner, but she cleaned up better than anything I could describe in words, it made me weak in the knees when she came up and greeted me.
I guess it's because she and I got a long so well at work, and like I said, she's a little badass, so there was already the personality click.

Hair is another big thing with me, I tend to like women with rich color, whether it's blonde, black, brown, red like hair that makes you want to run your fingers through it, before you kiss her. I'm also kind of not picky about whether it's long or short. I do find the hair the conceals one side of the face very attractive and playful.

As far as body, I'm not terribly picky, although I do like a good pair of mammories, but that's not always the case. Big boobs can look ridiculous, too. Curves to compliment the frame, I guess. I don't like fat frames, pudge is nice actually, but the "Yeah, I just ate six cheeseburgers... for breakfast" look doesn't do it for me. Partly because I used to be heavy, and I lead a more active outgoing lifestyle, now, so I'd want someone who'd like to that kind of thing. Plus, she's gotta look nice in fishnets and leather, because Rocky Horror isn't the same without them.

Yeah, I am kinda picky, more picky than I probably let on. Then again, I know women are, too. I know I get judged by my looks, a lot (because I'm not the most attractive guy around, no matter how much I work-out or dress to impress, there's no cure for a jacked-up face). So, I try to make up for it by being fun to be around (and sensually satisfying).

Legs, face and hair. Personality-wise, really laid back and independent. Those are the basics for me. The rest can come and go depending on the girl for all I care.

lol long-winded posts r boring

Eyes. Those are the first things about them that draws me in. And what will keep me drawn in is thier type of attitude. The ones with good sense of humor get my attention pretty fast.

Decent looks are a must, but for me the most important thing is that they have an 'edge' or darker side to their personality. By edge I mean things like they're reckless, or slightly obsessive about something or both. They also need to be creative rather than practical, or else our conversations seem to go out of sync about 3 minutes in.

I just wanted to stop buy and agree here. Her post was obviously not thought out very well. This "Hot subject" goes both ways. SO before any gender bashes the other, think about how you and/or your friends live your life/lives.

When I first meet a girl (or just see one walking down the street), I first notice if she has a cute face. Everything else is just secondary; however another thing I factor in is in fact, her clothes.

I'm not saying that girls need to dress in skirts and a tank top all the time, not at all. I do find it extremely unattractive when a girl takes little care of her appearance when she dresses. If you look like you just got out of bed in the morning by wearing baggy sweatpants and shower shoes, then it tells me a little about your personality. If you can't put a little effort into your appearance, then I don't see how you'd put more effort into a relationship/personality.

Noticed more recently I have a lot of respect for the hourglass shape. A girl can even be slightly chunky but if that shape is there it's nice to me.

Looks of course. Everyone does it. If you deny it, you're lying. Yes personality does count, but what catches your attention initially is how a person looks. After all, you can tell a lot by how a person carries himself or herself. The thing with looks is, it isn't everything. Yeah if someone looks good they'll get a lot of approaches, but if you're an idiot with an annoying personality, no one's going to stick with you.

Looks matter. It's what gets people's attention. But it's also important to have an attractive personality so you're able to keep those who you've attracted by your looks.

As for something more specific regarding what I notice with looks, they have to have a good face. If they have the hottest body in the world and have a messed up face, it really kills it.

I'd have to agree with your friend Sass, I simply adore you for who you are by personality.


As for me, I'm lazy. I don't do my make up everyday, I have my hair in a ponytail 96% of the time because I don't like it in my face (I believe it's the cause of my acne). My clothes are shit because I can't afford to replace my wardrobe every season and I'd rather save up that $100 to go travel someplace or buy a gift for someone like a family member or my boyfriend.

Yet, my boyfriend finds me attractive (so he says). I noticed he has a thing for my rear end than my bust, which is good considering I don't have much on my chest. He's half Mexican, if it explains any of the butt-fetish.

What I do put effort into though, is keeping the "natural beauty" look. I'm religiously using ProActive as if it would someday rid of all my zits and break-outs. I wash my hair with conditioner instead of shampoo everyday to keep my hair shiny. Of course I shampoo every other day, but I also follow up with conditioner on days I do wash my hair with shampoo. I brush my teeth after every meal and floss every night. I go to normal waxing sessions with my manicurist (I get manicure/pedicures maybe like twice a year as opposed to my bi-weekly waxing). I'm a very hairy person and I'm not afraid to admit it, so I wax it as often as I can possibly afford it (trust me, the girl who's getting weekly manicures still would be spending LESS than I would in a year).

This is so true. Obviously it doesn't happen to me anymore now that I'm married and older, but when I was younger I sort of developed a complex about this very thing. I got burned so many times by guys who pretended to be interested in me just long enough to get a date with me, but it would turn out that they really weren't interested in anything I had to say or in learning anything about me. And I was never even that good-looking. I can only imagine how shitty it must be for those drop dead gorgeous women. If I had looked like that, I think I would have uglied myself up on purpose every time I left the house just to fool all the assholes who only wanted to get into my pants.

I don't know if I speak for most people, but I'd like to delve into the psyche of the human mind...I think every person individually have multiple units of attraction possibilities. For the sake of clarity, lets assign a point value system to it. For instance, for me: A woman with exceptional physical features could equal the same amount of points as an average looking woman with exceptional artistic talents. In short I believe people just want something special in their partner whether it be in looks or talents. So to answer your question, I look for something special in a girl that stands out above the rest. I guess you all hate me now haha.

You know it's interesting. I've come across so many people who think eyes are the greatest thing ever. It's also a deeply romantic concept of staring into each others eyes aka into their souls.

I've never found eyes all that attractive or meaningful. I feel like I'm missing out on something here ; ;