Oh whoops, I forgot to mention devilmaywhinge is banned from the thread, so yeah don't bother quoting or whatever. http://img105.exs.cx/img105/9195/j5bmutantbaby.gif

Don't know if it's suposed to be good or not. But its not at all popular here... except for the beach volleyball game. I don't know anyone who has any of the games, or who has tried any except the volleyball game. It never looked that good to me... but appearances can be misleading.

I gathered as much, from the "get outta mah office" thingy.

That smiley looks very sickly :eyebrow:

:cow: for great justice

Gran Turismo. I used to have the first three but got rid of them. I enjoyed them for a bit but they became way to sim for my tastes. I much rather prefer the Need for Speed series, not the Most Wanted or any of the ones with the tuned cars, the ones with exotic cars in it.

I like racing games, just want a bit more fun injected into mine. I know some gear heads enjoy them. I certainly don't.

I hated Final Fantasy 7. There. I said it. Crucify me. The gameplay and materia system were pretty good, but the story and characters were just grade A flaming logs of crap. Speaking of flaming, Cloud and Sephiroth were crotch buddies. There is no denying it. Whenever they were both on screen at the same time, one of them was not wearing a shirt. Then, Cloud was "drawn" to Sephiroth at one point (I think it was the begining of the second disc, and thinking about it, Cloud was actually drawn to Sephiroth's body. That speaks for it's self). Then, Cloud forgot who he was, and for all intents and purposes, lied about his past to everyone, and the only person who knew the truth had to go through Cloud's soul before she realized it. (or something like that, it was pretty stupid.) Then there is Baret. The big black guy who yells and curses all the time, and beats on his chest like a monkey when he's angry. And he's got a gat. How racist is that? And can someone please show me any kind of evidence that Cloud even cared about Aeris (and yes, it is AERIS, with an S, they don't even say the th in Aerith in Japanese,so why do we do it in English?)? After she died, Cloud just dumped her body in a pool, and just kind of went on that whole "I need Sephiroth's body" rampage. Finally, there is Vincent. Vincent suffers the syndrome of alot of characters in FFVII. He looks 20x cooler than he actually is. He is a crappy character in battle, his limit breaks are crappy and uncontrolable, and he got his own crappy game. At least did some cool stuff in Advent Children (which wasn't a bad movie if all you want to see is pretty men do pretty sword fighting.). Thats all I can really say about FFVII right now, but I just want to point out one last thing. Lance Bass did the voice for Sephiroth.

Devil May Cry 3. I don't understand why people thought this game was so hard. It was quite boring for me, having to literally beat every single enemy to a bloody pulp became old quickly. I actually enjoyed the first two games, but the campy style just got stale. Especially since they felt the need to have a slow motion "vwooosh" every 2 minutes during a cutscene.

I'd just like to nominate this for most hilarious FF7 criticism ever. Preach on my friend. People who call her Aerith need to tone down the wapism just a bit. :edgarrock:

My entry to this thread would be pretty much any game Nippon Ichi makes. Disgaea being my first exposure to them, I found the game to be overly repetitive and pretty boring. The animu style did nothing to help me get into the game either. Granted, i'm not a huge fan of Strategy RPGs to begin with, but I do enjoy Final Fantasy Tactics and Front Mission so I don't hate ALL of them by any means.

I know i'm in the minority with this one. But I have these copies of Disgaea and La Pucelle and Phantom Brave on the shelf at home collecting dust because I just loathed them from the word go.

Were you not awake during high school English lectures? I think you'll find most 'th' words are pronounced as such. Hence in English, Aerith would be, Aerith. Go butcher another language and stop watching so much god damn anime.

I already mentioned WOW but I'll add Diablo II. This is because it was such a let down from the original Diablo which was actually fun. Sure, Diablo II had more content but leave it to Blizzard to botch it up. What made Diablo so great was the fact that it was a pure dungeon crawler. Starting off beneath the church and going further down until you reach hell was sweet unlike walking across deserts and rain forrests. And the portal to hell thing has been done to death. Diablo II was just very uninteresting - story and locations. The big complaint is sound. Whereas in Diablo everything had a very sastifying crunch Diablo II felt weak. The soundtrack for Diablo II was decent but not as good as the original. The graphics of Diablo were really great for it's time but when Diablo II was released I was expecting to see an overhaul and instead the game looked very rough. Blizzard somehow got very lucky with Diablo since the rest of their games are, well... crap.

No it's not. It stopped being cool to hate on FFVII years ago. Final Fantasy VII is crap. A priori. So it's a foregone conclusion nobody actually likes it. And people who still claim it to be the "best RPG ever" are retarded.

Free speech is retarded? What a good open mind you got.

I just thought it was funny. It may not be cool to hate on FF7 anymore but that doesn't stop half the internet. Who even cares about what is cool on the internet anyway?

It made me chuckle. Simple as that.

Hahaha, I liked this. I like FF7 too. I guess I just have a sense of humor. Also, I hate the whole 'th' vs. 's' thing. I prefer Aeris because Aerith makes me think anyone saying it has a lisp or something. Even though it's technically right or whatever, she'll always be Aeris to me.

I thought it was funny too. And I like FF7. :juggler:

For this, I will quote Wikipedia

This is why it is Aeris, not Aerith. Aerith just doesn't sound very good when spoken. Sometimes names need to be changed in translation so that they make sense in other languages. For example, there are alot of cities in the world that have different names when translated into English (easist one I can think of right now is Turin, aka in Italian, Torino).

Actually, with the whole Compilation of Final Fantasy VII, and the whole fanboy clamor for a remake, I feel that FFVII hate is more relevant now than ever. Especially since Lance Bass came out of the closet.

I didn't hate Diablo II. However, I kind of have to agree with every comment made. The soundtrack was good, but lacked diversity and soemwhat all run together. My biggest tiff with it was acutally the loss of the random quest system. I still ahve a bit of curioisty for a couple quests in the original Diablo, since I never actually got those during the game. My other tiff was that uniques and rares and such were too good. There was no longer any use to use just magical items. The modifiers in uniques in the original were several levels below their maximum possible on magical items, and as such, sometimes a magical item might be better than a unique. Diablo 2 did away with this though. Shame.

Oh? I've been intending to try all three of those actually :P

If you need shelf space, let me know XD

May I ask why? I mean, I can see how you could find fault with the game, but you say you haven't even played it. Don't you think that's unfair?

I don't see why Aeris is any better of a translation than Aerith, when they wanted to name her "Earth." As for the whole Aerith "not sounding good", well, that's just a matter of taste. It doesn't matter to me either way, but I hardly think your opinion of how "Aerith" sounds matters at all in how people should refer to her.

And Turin makes has no more meaning to me as a word than Torino, honestly, and Torino would be pronounced in English roughly the same as you'd pronounce it in Italian I'm assuming (Perhaps with some difference in stressing syllables). I'm sure there are reasons it was changed, but it certainly doesn't make much more "sense" compared to Torino, at least to me. Maybe someone can explain this.

This is what I've gathered so far. You believe FFVII to contain a deeply homosexual plot between Cloud and Sephiroth. This is only strengthened by the fact Sephiroth was at some point voiced by a homosexual man, Lance Bass. You seem to dislike homosexuals, so therefore you disliked FFVII. Regardless if it was intentional others have pointed out this to be humourous.

You also provide Wikiproof that Aerith pronounced Aeris in Japanese is a literal translation of the english word 'earth' and so because of this the original name Aerith was changed to Aeris for the North American release so that it would make sense even though it's likely a large percentage of people would have never made the Aeris-earth connection without prior knowledge of the japanese translation except unless it was specifically made mention during the game which I don't recall. However, orginally you stated Aerith should be pronounced Aeris since that's how the Japanese would say it so why on earth (excuse the pun) should Aerith be pronounced Aerith in English.

Now we've opened the floodgate. The entire english language needs to be re-written. All 'sh' 'th' 'ion' words need to have their pronounciation changed so we don't all go around with a lisp and sound like we have down syndrom.

Also your comment about Baret, I am no so sure if that is racist. Would you call the guys at Valve racist when they created the G Man. A white antangonist man in a suit and tie with a briefcase. You know the whole white collar-blue collar crime thing.

This is actually far more amusing than dimkya's attempt at biting-humor-angry-review. I'll allow it, but don't continue this, ok?

That means stop.

Can you define what "this" is? And I won't talk about FFVII anymore. But I will talk about KOTOR.

I hate Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Love the sequel, but I hate the original. Gameplay was pretty good, but gameplay is only 1/3 of the pie. What about the characters and storyline? What happened? What happened was that Bioware decided to tell the same story of the Star Wars movies 1000 years in the past, to give it that new spin (as a side note, why is it that when sci-fi series do prequels, everything always looks better and more technologically advanced than the stuff that is supposed to be in the future?)
All they did was split Darth Vader into Revan and Malik, and make Ed Asner the Emperor. Well, not so much with the Asner, but Yoda was in it (did he die at the end? Not really sure, and he/it didn't show up in the sequel, at least not to my knowledge). You also had Samuel L. Jakson, aka Mace Windu, aka Jolee Bindo, which just goes to show that all bald black guys are uberly rugged, just add a 'stache and some purple for a mighty porntastical adventure. There was also the four year old school girl in a thirty year old man's body, aka, Carth, the "man" who would rather pansy it up, and run away from the ultimate evil thus stranding him on an unknown planet, than at least try to fight (this is assuming you went all dark side). Then there was Juhani. I don't know about all that lesbian stuff, because I never did that in the game (and from what I saw on xplay, she seemed more confused than gay), but I will say this. What the f*** was up with head? Was she some kind of cat person? Why did she suck in battle? Anyway, the whole twist in the middle of the game was a little stupid, and the final boss battle was just unspectacular. You fight through that entire last dungeon, fighting through hoards of evil Jedi, (but they aren't sith due to some wierd Star Wars logic), and you get to Malik, and its like fighting the other 30 evil jedi's, only its a one on one fight, which just makes it easier. At least the Star Forge looked better than the Death Star.

I hate Halo. It's the most poorly designed game I've ever played. I haven't played Halo 2 for that very reason.

Grand Theft Auto. GTA2 was fun for like, half an hour. Otherwise, the entire series is the epitome of mediocrity. The graphics, controls, gameplay, everything is shit. The fact that it's so popular baffles me.

Donkey Kong 64. And basically every 3D platformer ever made by Rare.

Resident Evil 4. I really enjoyed the game, but I was ready for it to end by the time I finished the first disc. Too repetitive.

Geist. Waste of my money. A pity, too, because the concept had such vast potential.

RPGs in general. There are a few exceptions (mostly games that don't take themselves too seriously), but generally speaking, they're dull. It's the ultimate cop-out for a game developer. Final Fantasy, Xenogears, whatever else. I don't know, they're too boring to play. Simply shitty game design.
RPGs I like: Mario RPGs are generally fun, and enjoy Fire Emblem. But I can't play too many of them without any more active games in between. I get bogged down with it.
I tried Earthbound, and loved the style, but the battle system was so goddamn terrible that I couldn't finish it.

A Link to the Past is my least favorite Zelda game. It's a good game, but I don't like it near as much as the other Zelda games.

Fighting games. I'll play them, but I won't buy them. The gaming mechanism there is broken, and always has been. The complex button sequence method of gameplay is terrible, and I'll never really enjoy a traditional fighting game until they're fully immersive.
Cuz fighting is fun. Pushing buttons sporadically is not.

I never played Katamari Damacy, and while it looked interesting, it seemed like I'd get bored really quickly.

Kingdom Hearts has the worst hack and slash gameplay. I get a nervous twitch when people mention this game.

I could name more, but that's a good helping. Really, I try not to be negative about stuff. I like talking about the games I enjoy a whole lot rather than dwelling on the ones I don't.
And I can even derive some satisfaction from playing these games, even if they're not my favorites.

although I don't get a nervous twitch, I more than partly agree. Notwithstanding the (excellent) soundtrack, the gameplay was jsut terrible. I can't remember how many curses I uttered while fighting a boss of the final vilain for the first time in the game (ALONE' GODAMIT)

Maybe you should go review unreleased movies and games at Amazon if you are so fond of reviewing stuff that you never touched. :boxing:

On the other hand, I totally second Kingdom Hearts as a game I just never "got". I like the setting, but that's about all. Dragon Quest VIII is another one I just didn't like. So generic, I just couldn't fathom why everybody was hailing it as a return to form for RPGs.

I have to agree with your Dragon Quest VIII assessment, but not so much for the generic feel of the game that you mentioned. My problem with Dragon Quest is that in order to really get through the game without incredible amounts of difficulty, you have to spend so much time leveling up that it just ruins the game for me. I really liked the atmosphere and the art style and the story of Dragon Quest VIII, but all the time I spent leveling up just ruined the game for me.

I realize that in essence, that IS the Dragon Quest style and I should have expected it before I even bought the game. I was just hoping that it wouldn't be as "overkillish" if that is even a word as previous DQ games have been.

I guess you have a point in that if the execution was better gameplay-wise, I would've liked the presentation. I just felt that overall, it didn't have anything to set itself apart and was just really bland (including the grinding).

While I never played Dragon Warrior VIII, I do have Dragon Warrior VII and have played about an hour of it. I heard it was supposed to be good. In Japan it's popularity surprasses Final Fantasy. I like Final Fantasy so I figured I'd give Dragon Warrior VII a try. I got it and it was very typical and archaic. I realize it was for the PSX, however there are many RPGs for the system that have an interesting storyline better battle system or some unique gameplay element. Dragon Warrior VII had none of these.

The storyline was a cliche from 20 years ago with graphics that could be on par for a late generation 3DO game. Sure it was supposed to be a call back to the roots of RPGs, but quite frankly, it's better if they left those roots and sort of innovated along the way. A game that I truly dislike and find no redeeming qualities about it.

I quite liked DMC3, but only after watching a vid where a Chinese player was owning the enemies on DMD mode. After that I thought "wow, you really are capable of intense mayhem!" and so I picked it up. The cutscenes were ridiculous, but a great watch although it did get too outrageous towards the end (falling of the tower was like been there done that somehow). The game progression was actually quite bland I found, not as good as the first, but the combat really was pure genius. It's just a shame you have to do lots of levelling to obtain all the moves so that kind off puts off the casual gamer I guess. It wasn't as hard as people made it out to be; I think cerberus at the start gave most false impressions.

It seems I've gone off topic here so um,

Another game I thought wasn't as good as ppl made it out to be was Fire Emblem too. I liked Advance Wars a lot, and whilst gameplay is similar, the setting just doesn't have that same impact for me. Add to that I'm disappointed that there isn't an option to have battle scenes play but allowing for manual skips, as I'm forced to play with them totally off (since I don't like it slowing me down). (Understand properly here.) The story may be interesting, but the dialogue is boring; no charm no wit it just didn't captivate me and felt tacked on. Interesting concepts with the whole item management and team co-op powerups, but tilt brings it down for me.

Sorry for the incoherentness. Just had too much chocolate lol!

lord of the rings: the fellowship of the ring ps2 i though it personnaly sucked not enough action too much "collect the mushrooms" or "escape the ringwraiths" also the fact it was not based on the film but the book :S

Games that are supposed to be really good but I hate, eh? Let's see...

The Grand Theft Auto series: I have only played GTAIII, being drawn to buy it by the innumerable rave reviews from anywhere in the world. I have never been so bored playing a game before, or ever since. I never knew where I was in the city, I found the control system and the cars' physics to be intolerable, and the few missions I undertook weren't interesting or fun at all. I never even bothered with Vice City or San Andreas, even if they got even bigger praise.

FFX: it's a head-to-head fight between this and GTAIII for the most boring "game" I've ever played in my life. I found FFX to be slow as hell, the battle system and the power-up mechanics are obscenely letargic and overly sophisticated. And the story just sucks... I hate the character design, I hate the voice acting (except Auron), and I hate Blitzball more than anything in the whole videogaming world. I never got to the end of this game.

Gran Turismo: I just don't like realistic driving games. I like F-Zero, Mario Kart, Wipeout, but just not Gran Turismo. I did play it for a couple of weeks before realizing that I wan't having fun playing it.