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Simo May 2, 2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dagget (Post 601242)
Just incase this could be made out as a spoiler...



Spoiler:
In the new issue of PSM they said that during cutscenes in the game you'll see a very brief popup of the X or L1 button and pressing those when they show up will treat gamers to some of "Snake's Memory" which will show past encounters he had in the previous games. I assume thats what everyone's talking about in that youtube link and all. :P


I'm ready for June 12th... like NOW.

That's not quite what the YouTube vid is which is more spoilerish. We've seen the "Snake's Memory" in action like during the trial version at E For All when Snake meets up with the MkII and Otacon calls it a Metal Gear similiar to "REX" the X icon appears and pressing it right then brings up flashes of images of Metal Gear REX itself from MGS1.

The video just seems to be apart of where we'll be going. The fact that the OCTOCAMO is in use and Snake is carrying a XM8 Carbine Rifle rules out a dream sequence for me. Obviously the 2 scenes of the one in question and Snake waking up could of been spliced together from 2 different points in the game.

Though with all the effects and such going on in that scene, did anyone else notice it looked to be running a smooth 60fps? Thats kind of been up in the air given the beta runs at 30, although jumps to 60fps during M.M at most times, so I'm hoping this reaffirms that single player runs at 60fps for the most part of the game. :D

Pietak May 2, 2008 10:10 PM

So, how do we get our hands on a pre-order of the LE PS3 system of Metal Gear Solid 4?

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Limited edition gunmetal gray MGS4 PS3 coming to America, hearts flutter

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/...c9bbdc8b62.jpg
It's no secret that we've been drooling over all the hot limited-edition Metal Gear Solid 4 swag that Sony and Konami are dishing out in Japan, but it looks like a select few in this country will be able to score the baddest of them all: the gunmetal gray PS3 / MGS4 bundle with matching DualShock 3. Yep, it's coming Stateside on June 12th like the rest of the MGS4 editions and the standard 80GB PS3 / MGS4 bundle, but you'd better get in line now, because we're told it's going to be extremely limited in availability, and we're calling one. We can do that, right? Say yes.

[Via Joystiq]
I wants it. I needs it. And I don't want to scour eBay for when I miss it. Does anyone know of if GameStop is doing a pre-order of it?

Shenlon May 2, 2008 10:21 PM

xplay for one reason or another has gotten new gameplay footage. For those of us who played the sneaking mission in the beta are already familiar with this but it does show more to meryls group and the new enemies.

EDIT: woops wrong link, its fixed now
Gametrailers.com - New Metal Gear Solid 4 Gameplay - by BlackPhoenix23

Oh and those limited edition consoles look so damn awesome. It seems like mgs4 is going to be a huge system seller

Matt May 3, 2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pietak (Post 601378)
Does anyone know of if GameStop is doing a pre-order of it?

It doesn't look like it, but then again I only checked the website. I could try calling the store but I hate being harassed to preorder games before I can even get a word out.

I'm just wondering if that is going to be seperate of the PS3/MGS4 bundle.

Firefly May 4, 2008 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shenlon (Post 601380)
Oh and those limited edition consoles look so damn awesome. It seems like mgs4 is going to be a huge system seller

This is precisely why I opined last year that Sony should have held off on releasing the PS3 to this point.
Along with Valkyria Chronicles (thread), MGS4 is one of two titles for which I am tempted to set aside dead presidents for said system.

Pietak May 5, 2008 01:13 AM

Just checked in a local GameStop where they know their shit.
Guy said that they didn't get a set amount from Sony, thus can't offer pre-orders. It'll basically be a mad scramble for them when they release.
Definetly picking one up.

Kagosin May 5, 2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pietak (Post 601378)
So, how do we get our hands on a pre-order of the LE PS3 system of Metal Gear Solid 4?

I wants it. I needs it. And I don't want to scour eBay for when I miss it. Does anyone know of if GameStop is doing a pre-order of it?

Doubtful. They only do system pre-orders when a new generation of systems are coming out. Then again, they've been going bat-crazy with pre-order of things, so who knows as it draws close to the release of it.

Simo May 5, 2008 10:39 PM

Well the first review for MGS4 is supposed to crop up next Friday on May 16th courtesy of Official Playstation Magazine. OPM actually has a nice MGS4 issue right now thats dedicated solely to MGS4 and the past games to act as a refresher for those who haven't played the games.

There was also a big spoiler posted over the weekend of photo taken during the Euro press junket when they got to play and complete the game in Konami Europe, Paris. Unfortunately the snap caught one of the players during a cutscene to reveal something we haven't seen yet, although if anybody has been following MGS4 since the beginning then it won't come as any surprise, but I won't post it here though here are some un-spoilerific shots of the junket:
http://www.gram.pl/upl/artykul/20080502192347.jpg
http://www.gram.pl/upl/artykul/20080502192731.jpg
http://www.gram.pl/upl/artykul/20080502192709.jpg
http://www.gram.pl/upl/artykul/20080502193136.jpg
http://www.gram.pl/upl/artykul/20080502193900.jpg
http://www.gram.pl/upl/artykul/20080504161516.jpg

Title screen is awesome and WTF with the smoking warning...

Lastly some good news for strategy guide folks as Piggyback will be the ones responsible for the MGS4 guide which comes in 2 flavors of standard and a LE guide which contents are unknown at this time:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7...qlss500un6.jpg

Pietak May 6, 2008 09:53 AM

Smoking thing is hysterical. Glad to see they're carrying themes over from the previous games, and not everything like the logo is changing.

What exactly was this? A MGO competition?

Kilroy May 6, 2008 10:49 AM

An event where journos could play the game, according to Simo's post. I seriously wonder why the hell I wasn't invited >=(
Simo, couldn't you put the spoiler in a spoiler? I'm tempted seeing what you talk about:P

Simo May 6, 2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pietak (Post 602532)
What exactly was this? A MGO competition?

Basically what Kilroy said. Last month several gaming journalists across Europe were invited to Konami Europe in Paris to play through a near final and much more polished version of the game from beginning to end. The photos are from some Netherlands gaming site that were taking during the event which kind of caught some spoilers too.

In February 70 gaming journalists from the US, Japan and Europe were invited to Japan and a private Konami resort to play through the game for 3 days and with Kojima and his team monitoring everyone and taking in feedback to help polish the game.

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Originally Posted by Kilroy (Post 602545)
Simo, couldn't you put the spoiler in a spoiler? I'm tempted seeing what you talk about:P

Yeah I can and will, just don't yell at me if you don't like what you see!
Spoiler:
http://i28.tinypic.com/28s1mdc.jpg

See now given the placement of the eyepatch it kind of limits the options on who it could be but the first idea is Big Boss. The problem is the context of the scene given he doesn't really look that old in the photo and of course we have no idea what's going on in the scene so for all we know it could be a still image, flashback or maybe Big Boss is in fact back. It could be an entirely new character for all we know.

Of course back when MGS4 was first revealed to be in development Kojima displayed a poster featuring character art of returning characters...
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9...reen001ik2.jpg

Everyone else in the poster has been revealed except for Big Boss.

Kilroy May 7, 2008 03:38 AM

Spoiler:
Ha! I knew he would make an apperance. Now, if they could only get Sean Connery to voice him:33

dagget May 7, 2008 07:45 AM

Hmm. OPM? I thought they went under? Unless you mean Playstation: The Official Magazine (Formerly PSM) then I never got that big MGS 4 issue. :( Cover for mine is GTA 4 with 6 page preview of MGS 4.

Now that I've put enough long-winded so my spoiler doesn't pop up on the "Hay guy this is wats goin on :3" thing

Spoiler:
That picture looked alot like Solidus.. which I know Ocelot said he was a dead ringer for Boss, especially after Raiden was the he had a patch over his eye, but to me it was more of a Solidus feling than one of Big Boss

Krelian May 7, 2008 08:16 AM

Spoiler:
Wrong eye.

Simo May 8, 2008 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dagget (Post 602817)
Hmm. OPM? I thought they went under? Unless you mean Playstation: The Official Magazine (Formerly PSM) then I never got that big MGS 4 issue. :( Cover for mine is GTA 4 with 6 page preview of MGS 4.

This is a seperate issue that will be on stands until the end of July. I picked it up today and it runs for a more pricey $9.99 compared to the usual price. The GTAIV issue is the current correct one and then next week will see the new issue featuring the MGS4 review.

News wise GAME in Europe, in particular Spain, have up promotional covers for MGS4 similar to the those you see in GameStop and EB here in the states. What is interesting is that the back of the cover features 2 new screenshots as well as technical information for the game including the maximum resolution being 720p and the game requiring a 4GB HDD install.

"A legendary soldier. His last mission. His final sacrifice."
http://i26.tinypic.com/2r3fog6.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/iohisi.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/14kzaly.jpg
Source

One of the new screenshots you can see clearly of Liquid Ocelot while the second one....
Spoiler:
looks to show EVA and Snake on a motorbike like MGS3 during nighttime. Escape down the streets of Prague....?


Also today marks just 5 more weeks until MGS4 sneaks out!

Hantei May 8, 2008 11:12 PM

On the previous spoiler about the Paris event, and the one above on the box cover:
Spoiler:
Aw man, kinda wish I didn't see that EVA and Snake on the motorcycle screen (assuming that's what it is). I wasn't expecting a sequence like that, heh. On the Big Boss thing though, yea no surprise that we'd see him, but in what context is interesting. That screen there, that has to be a flashback or perhaps something like a file document. Heh, there's no way he can still be alive I'd be very surprised if that was the case.


EDIT:

If anyone is interested Play-Asia and Yes-Asia has that gunmetal version of the PS3 (+ the LE of MGS4), the Premium Pack, up for pre-order. Granted it's the Japanese version, and is ridiculously priced, but if you don't wanna wait out to hear whether your local shops will be carrying any you can gurantee yourself one with either site (yes-asia probably better since you can get free shipping).

Buy Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots [Premium Pack] - Order Now!
PS3 40GB Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriot (Premium Pack) (Japan Version), Games - YesAsia.com

Simo May 11, 2008 10:18 PM

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EDIT:

If anyone is interested Play-Asia and Yes-Asia has that gunmetal version of the PS3 (+ the LE of MGS4), the Premium Pack, up for pre-order. Granted it's the Japanese version, and is ridiculously priced, but if you don't wanna wait out to hear whether your local shops will be carrying any you can gurantee yourself one with either site (yes-asia probably better since you can get free shipping).

Buy Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots [Premium Pack] - Order Now!
PS3 40GB Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriot (Premium Pack) (Japan Version), Games - YesAsia.com
Holy crap thats overpriced. :twitch: You'd probably be best off just waiting for them to hit US shores than paying twice the going rate for the import. I hear that the US 80GB PS3/MGS4 bundle won't be up for reserve but that Sony is promising plenty to go around come June 12th. Nothing on the "Gun Metal" PS3 so far but with the MGO beta over perhaps tomorrow PS Blog update will shed some light?

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Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 603361)
On the previous spoiler about the Paris event, and the one above on the box cover:
Spoiler:
Aw man, kinda wish I didn't see that EVA and Snake on the motorcycle screen (assuming that's what it is). I wasn't expecting a sequence like that, heh. On the Big Boss thing though, yea no surprise that we'd see him, but in what context is interesting. That screen there, that has to be a flashback or perhaps something like a file document. Heh, there's no way he can still be alive I'd be very surprised if that was the case.

Regarding the cover..
Spoiler:
Its pretty much speculation that its EVA with Snake given the shot is so out of focus to make anything out but the poster who took the snaps mentions in the link it being EVA and a motorbike given they saw it upclose. So it might not be EVA or it might be either way its just a nice piece of speculative material to talk about until MGS4 is released in a month!


Lastly it looks like the tracklistings for the MGS4 OST, due May 28th, have surfaced on VGMdb. There doesn't seem to be any major or definitive spoilers in the listings but to be on the safe side I'll spoiler mark them:
Spoiler:
Disc 1

01 Old Snake 3:52
02 Love Theme 7:07
03 Gekko 2:53
04 Haven Troopers 3:40
05 BB Corps 3:43
06 Drebin 893 3:29
07 Vista Mansion 1:32
08 Laughing Octopus 2:19
09 Breakthrough 3:09
10 Endless Pain 2:46
11 White Blood 2:49
12 Call Me Hal 3:01
13 Midnight Shadow 2:58
14 Paradise Lost 4:13
15 Great Escape 2:14
16 Desperate Chase 2:57
17 Raging Raven 2:34
18 Confrontation 3:10
19 Mobs Alive 3:24
20 Violent Ceasefire 2:08
Disc length 63:58

Disc 2
01 Next-Gen Control 4:40
02 Crying Wolf 2:10
03 One More Reboot 1:41
04 Sin 1:44
05 Atonement 4:48
06 Infinite Loop 3:35
07 Everything Ends 2:30
08 At Dawn 3:30
09 Screaming Mantis 2:38
10 Guns of the Patriots 4:05
11 No Place to Hide 2:36
12 Sorrow 3:50
13 Full Circle 1:38
14 Everything Begins 4:25
15 Father & Son 2:29
16 Metal Gear Saga 4:19
17 Here's To You 5:48
18 War Zone 1:28
19 A Rebellion Rests 2:44
20 The Hunter 2:05
21 The Hunted 2:00
22 Forced Hand 2:08
23 Under Curfew 1:49
24 Unmanned Army 1:28
25 Cold Memories 1:35
26 For Liberty 1:58
27 Surrounded 1:59
Disc length 75:40

Notes
Disc 1-1, 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, 16, 19, disc 2-1, 10, 12, 15, 16 composed by Harry Gregson-Williams

Disc 1-2 performed by Jackie Presti

Disc 1-4, 6, 7, 8, 12, 14, 15, 17, disc 2-2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11, 14, 18 to 26 composed by Nobuko Toda, Shuichi Kobori and Kazuma Jinnouchi

Disc 1-18, 20, disc 2-8 composed by Yoshitaka Suzuki

Disc 2-7 composed by Nobuko Toda and Takahiro Izutani

Disc 2-9 composed by Nobuko Toda, Shuichi Kobori and Akihiro Honda

Disc 2-13 composed by Takahiro Izutani

Disc 2-17 performed by Lisbeth Scott

Disc 2-27 composed by Nobuko Toda, Shuichi Kobori and Sota Fujimori

Source: GFCA-98~9: Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots Original Soundtrack - VGMdb

Worth noting is that there is no track titled "Metal Gear Solid 4 Main Theme" which could confirm the worst that Kojima axed the theme due to the incident a year or 2 ago. :(

Wall Feces May 11, 2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Simo (Post 604171)
Worth noting is that there is no track titled "Metal Gear Solid 4 Main Theme" which could confirm the worst that Kojima axed the theme due to the incident a year or 2 ago. :(

What incident is this?

K_ Takahashi May 11, 2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sprouticus (Post 604172)
What incident is this?

YouTube Video

Hantei May 11, 2008 11:43 PM

Man, that is so disappointing that there's no main theme for MGS4. Just such a shame to deny the concluding game to the MGS series its series' main theme. I guess we should have expected as much when the main theme never once made it into the various trailers. The removal of the theme from MPO should have been a hint as well (which did appear in the GC trailer, but never in the game or soundtrack). I'll be constantly thinking of when the theme should have been used come Sneak Out.

Oh well, still can't wait till the soundtracks release. Heh, it'll be hard to resist listening to it before the game's release. I'm anxious to hear the new vocal songs (apparently there's two), which I'm assuming were written by Rika Muranaka.

SouthJag May 12, 2008 12:07 AM

Okay so consider me lost. Did they use the theme in a trailer and whoever has the rights to the song said no because they weren't initially credited or didn't get their permission?

If it was something that petty, Kojima probably could've had it taken care of right then and there. If not, what's the story?

The Plane Is A Tiger May 12, 2008 12:09 AM

I'm not really an MGS fan at all so maybe the answer is obvious, but what does that video have to do with cutting the theme? It just seems to be a typical promo preview and discussion of the music's origins.

Rotorblade May 12, 2008 12:10 AM

Seems more like damage control for a track that was considered memorable for VGM prior to being exposed for plagiarism.

Through fire, Justice is served.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor May 12, 2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rotorblade (Post 604195)
Seems more like damage control for a track that was considered memorable for VGM prior to being exposed for plagiarism.

This.

I can't believe no one heard about this before. The theme was clearly lifted (or at least, "heavily inspired by") a Russian piece from the 1970s. It was plagiarized.

Whoops.

Hantei May 12, 2008 02:12 AM

Many of us have heard and read about the incident. I personally was hoping that Konami/KP would come forward about it, rather than just go quiet about it and let the theme disappear without a reason (even though we know why).


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