Final Smash and Music/Stage? As for the Up+B, maybe the spring just appears in mid-air quickly?

I'd say that Vivi (or a generic Black Mage) would make a pretty good SE representative. There'll probably be enough variety in SE's black magic for a good skillset. His look seems to fit well with Smash's overall look, too.

A Phoenix Wright Assist Trophy??? :-D

Am I the only person on these forums that wants to see some love from Super Mario RPG?

FU Paper Mario

Newcomer Bubsy.

Sonic's stage HAS to be Green Hill Zone.

Frankly, I'd like to see it stay just Nintendo characters, so the fewer third party the better for me. The last thing I want is Nintendo-based Mugen (next version of Smash Brothers will have a Mii editor where you can buy skills for him and upgrade his stats as you progress through the game).

Delayed 'til February.
Ah well... it's ok 'cause I wouldn't have been able to buy it anyways, at least with all the other stuff I still need to buy (*cough* MP3, Mario Galaxy, Phantom Hourglass...). It would've ended up with me buying Smash Bros instead of Mario Galaxy, so it really doesn't change much of anything for me.

IGN's got an article up on Brawl after having a go at it, and there are quite a few revelations in there. Here it is.

Oh ho, slightly different character models confirmed?


Maybe there's an option to change how the character select/interface looks like?

Sounds like a blast, and their comments about Brawl being built off of Melee but refined even further are good to hear. Definitely can't wait.

I really hope they use a cleaned up version of the original Blue Bomber. He's the most iconic out of the bunch. Pac-Man I'm kind of wary about considering his 3D games aren't all that great and Namco only really had a hit that they themselves made with the original Pac-Man and nothing else. The yellow dot eating machine just hasn't grown up into our generation as well as Mario, Sonic (uh....), and Snake have or at least have more than one winning game from its original creators. Now if they took some creative license and made him lunge forward in 2d form to bit people kind of like how they gave Fox that blue speeding form and a bunch of varied moves to go along with his boxing gloves he might be interesting.

Hmmm... well I guess you could go the generic route. I'd do a duo ala Banjo Kazooie with a Moogle riding a Chocobo. The Chocobo Dungeon character design would probably work best. I think that at least would open up some nice possibilities with what to do with the attacks and specials.


I dunno, maybe, but only if you're unable to read this thread.


5 or 10 3rd party characters wouldn't equate to Mugen. Comparing Mugen to Smash Bros. alone is pretty fucking insulting anyway. These are for the most part well balanced, unique characters.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they added Miis to this game. If they did it right like having them use sports equipment and other fun stuff they've done with their casual Wii games they could be neat. What would be so terrible about that?


Psh, I like how people still keep forgetting that there is at the very least a requirement that the character had to appear on a Nintendo system.

And really even in the off chance that post-SNES Final Fantasy characters were on that Kingdom Hearts GBA games those cameo appearances or what not would barely fulfill that requirement.


Great news there, Metal Sphere, although we do know about a few of those things like crumbling Fire Emblem stage. =)

I agree, and it wouldn't take much tweaking to make his classic setup work in Brawl.

Ah, I'll be sure to edit that out then. That description (at least the siege part) reminds me of Raphael's stage in SC3.

The Norfair news instantly made me think of remixed music, btw.

Edit: Gameplay video is up on Gamevideos (this one is Sonic vs Link), and it looks like character entrances have returned. Enjoy folks.

There's also one of Samus vs. Mario where they show off how you get the smash balls by destroying them and Samus' final smash.

GameVideos.com - Super Smash Bros. Brawl 'Mario Vs. Samus'

At the end of the video you can see another smash ball appear which is good because that confirms for people who might have been confused about the item that it will appear more than once per battle.

I'm really glad character entrances have returned. This game has all the greatness of its predecessors now. =)

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Oh sweet! This one shows off Diddy's final smash and the end of a game.

GameVideos.com - Super Smash Bros. Brawl 'Diddy Rocket'

Metaknight has some sweet victory music and a badass, manly voice. The announcer sounds a bit too friendly for my taste though. I like how when it ends it basically slow-mos the last moves of the characters similar to when you beat Master Hand.

I hope so too. I don't want to see him in his Battle Networks or Ryuseii/Star Force form. Mega Man is the most iconic character from Capcom.

I thought that was just a non-existent rule and utter fan bullshit.

Well this sucks...apparently SBB is going to get delayed to February.

Looks like nintendo lost a CRAPLOAD of XMAS revenue

They'll do fine with Mario Galaxy and Phantom Hourglass alone. I wouldn't worry too much.

Nope. That's how it works. You won't be seeing Sephiroth, Master Chief, Ico, or Guybrush Threepwood in this game.


And yeah, while I wish it were coming out by this Christmas I'd rather have a complete game and Nintendo will be rolling in money anyway. Brawl will be a great game for the rather slow post-Xmas season. Come to think of it what big games does Nintendo have after Brawl is out in February?

I just hope that Nintendo is doing this to add more in

I'm sad because I was banking on picking this AND Fire Emblem up at the same time at the end of the year, along with a Wii. Would give me a good base to start with.

February. :(

Also, to chip in on the Sonic thing. I'm more excited for Ike's appearance. It's nice to have Sonic in there and all, but come on. IKE.

I dunno, I just liked that all of them were original Nintendo characters in the game. There's a bunch out there that mix characters from various creators/companies so Nintendo's abilities to make a whole pretty sweet game just out of their own characters was pretty rad. (Though your mention of Banjo Kazooie makes me wish they'd be able to put Conker into the game for lols.)

The Miis don't bother me so much, it's just the next progression after you can put in your own character is to give them "RPG-style development." Look at all the various kinds of sports games, whenever you create your own character to play, it gets to Level Up! and become stronger. People like it because it's another thing to unlock, something to keep playing for. Then you could even choose if your Mii is slow and strong or small and quick. That develops into choose a move set, upgrading abilities as you play more, etc. I'd be fine with it for this game, but I just worry what they'd do in the next installment. :(

FUCK YOU PRETENDO

FUCK YOU FOREVER FOR LETTING US DOWN


Anyway yeah, can't really give a crap for Sonic being in there. Everyone is going to whine about this Sonic character or that Sonic character not being in there alongside him anyway.

I mean it's nice that they added him, but it's difficult to get hyped up about him when he's felt like a C-movie actor for years now.

"AND ALSO FEATURING: ROB SCHNEIDER"

I'd actually be rather ticked if that's what Smash Bros. turned into. One thing that I've always loved about the series is how easy it is to learn the game and get playing, without excessive customization getting in the way.

I dunno, something about using your Mii in Smash Bros would be kind of funny like serving a tennis ball or throwing a bowling ball

Little Mac, tanks from Advance Wars, that Drill Dozer character thingy and Metroid's have been confirmed as Assist Trophies by stinkfest site 1UP. :3:

LITTLE MAC

I'll believe it when I see some official confirmation...but if it's true I'm with you on this, Infernal. Little Mac would be freaking awesome although I would've preferred it if he were a playable character.

I get what you're saying, RR, I'm just not worried about it turning into Mugen. I place a lot of trust into Sakurai on doing this 3rd party thing right. He said 2 or 3 characters from 3rd parties might be in it but I'm betting he might have changed his mind and added just a few more after all the begging I'm sure he's been getting. After all he is getting A LOT of 3rd party musical talent behind this already.

I wouldn't mind some sort of hidden stats as long as it's balanced enough that it doesn't make the Miis broken and unfair to play against. It would be great if they would adapt their stats along to your play style. Now that would be neat. And no you shouldn't be having start up Miis being weaker than veteran Miis. All stats need to be balanced it's just that your Mii will have its stats balanced to how you play. That might make that controller memory storage for you Mii finally useful.


Rob Schneider is just a regular guy until one daaay he wakes up and finds himself in a whole new world. And it's a world of pain where he finds out it's not so easy going against veterans. Rob Schneider is... A NEWCOMER! ='D

Wasn't that quote from that fake radio show that confirmed WW Link and Ridely as playable? If not I'd gladly put my foot in my mouth.Now that's a damn good idea. I think they should do something like that (maybe add little more random element) with all the characters to mix it up a little, so there won't be such a huge need for nerfing the overpowered characters like Fox anymore. Nothing too extreme, but sometimes you might get slightly fast Mario, sometimes strong Mario, sometimes floaty Mario, etc. depending on your play style. Of course the tourneyfags would complain but fuck them.