I'd have thought it was obvious that I was under the influence and misinterperted your post, sure seems that way to me. Kudos to you for taking steps to ensure your smoking has no adverse effect on your friends.

Awfully silly to assume every smoker takes those same steps though.

I think you can make a mildly educated guess based on people committing suicide by leaving the car on in a closed garage or the constant weeping about greenhouse gases. I daresay that car exhaust will have a greater impact on your hypothetical children's lives than the smoking habits of your future parents-in-law.

Or are your parenting skills so pathetic that you can't bother to explain why smoking is bad, despite their grandparents doing it?

I myself smoke, but I'm (strangely) still for banning smoke from at least most public areas. I don't want to bother others with it I mean. And why are cigarettes still legal to sell and use anyway...
god, I wanna quit =p

I'm with lord-of-shadow, I think we should ban everything.

Then fucking do it. There are so many avenues for people who actually WANT to quit out there that whining about it just makes you seem like a douche.


Also, they're legal because the tobacco industry is so far up the government's ass that it's fucking Howdy Doody time in there.

Did you know, statistically you lose half of your audience for every 11 seconds a webpage takes to load. On that basis, you're probably the only person who's ever seen whatever's loading up on that page.

Interestingly enough, it loaded fast enough for me to not lose interest HOWEVER I dropped out when I saw it was a flash video.

Maybe my brain is addled because my parents let me visit my grandmother, who smoked. Talk about irresponsible...

Blame European internet filters.

Sorry I got here late, guys! :):):)

I just want to respond to some dead shit because you're all assholes.
Yeah because withdrawal from currently legal substances can never be any more difficult than, say, crack. Because withdrawal never causes permanent or semi-permanent damage on the body, right? Right? It just has to be easy as hell, right?
Yeah because you can totally do thorough and impartial scientific studies on illegal substances whenever you feel like it. Disregard those who have severe THC allergies.
Laughing my ass off here. Why do you talk?
Let's sum up a response to this gem with a simple chat quote. <+Benjamin> NO SMOKE IN MY BAR "fuck u we'll go someplace else" ::goes out of business::
Your imaginary kids are going to grow up wonderfully.
Do you live in Tunisia or something?


On a personal note, I smoke. I'm embarrassed about it. But the withdrawals are kind of a bitch. There's alot of will that goes into quitting cold turkey, but I've got better things to do at the moment, and far bigger worries. Unlike most silly meatbags, I'm not afraid of death, and I'm willing to let my life run its course while I go at my own pace, instead of dying from stress at 30.

Shit son, I don't even smoke when I'm not at home

Also, nice posting in a thread that deals with substance addiction, Frank. You can get a new liver faster than a new set of lungs, after all.

I know a dude who needed new lungs, and I know a dude who needed a new liver. Crash got his shit first.

Just sayin'.

I like how the choices are quitting smoking or dying at 30 from too much stress.

Well, he's got other "options," but I'm going to be cryptic and leave it at that.

I wish I had something more clever than "fuck you," for the implication, but at the moment I'm too drunk to care.

God I <3 you forever, Frank~

I vote this becomes Frank's permanent unchangeable usertitle

I sort of wish they would ban smoking in more places where I live! I always get annoyed when I'm at a pool hall or bowling alley where everyone is smoking.

I remember one pool hall I went had this visible thick cloud of smoke from about 4 feet off the floor all the way to the ceiling. It was so bad I almost got physically sick by the end of the pool tournament I was playing there -- needless to say I never went to that establishment again...

I really don't see why the people who regulate smoking give so much leeway to smokers; they shouldn't have the right to inconvenience other people with their addiction in my opinion...

So, when you decided to reply to this thread, did you take a moment to look at the rest of the thread's posts? In particular, did you notice the sort of reception another poster got when he espoused the sort of attitude you're promoting?

A pool hall should be full of smoke. Smoke, beer, and salty snacks. If people wanted to be healthy they'd go and play some fucking tennis. But no, you have to be that rarest creature: the health-conscious billiards enthusiast. Who's inconveniencing who, exactly?

I'm fine with the beer and salty snacks part but with smoking on the decline I feel such establishments should try to cater more towards the majority of the population rather than the small minority of smokers. I would be fine with something like a smoking and non-smoking area even. A thick cloud of smoke that makes someone feel sick just being there is a little too much though...

...and no, I got bored after reading the first page or two of replies and just skipped to posting a reply -- I need to stop doing that... *sigh*

The only catch is that there seems to be a larger percentage of smokers amongst billiards players than those who do not smoke. And the non-smoking billiards players are rather accepting of smoke as part of the environment of the game they so enjoy. Telling these establishments to go smoke-free is telling them to alienate the larger percentage of their loyal customer base. It's just bad for their business.

Christ, dude, I'm a strictly non-smoking guy and I fully accept that some places are meant to be tobacco zones. Seedy bars, off-track betting parlors and pool halls are all the kinds of places where I expect cigarettes to be, because those kinds of people generally smoke. It's not a slight against them, just an observation.

But it's also why I stay out of places like that, no matter how much I like a good game of darts. It's why I purchased a home dartboard. It's why you can buy beer and salty snacks in the grocery store also.

It's why people keep billiards tables in their own homes rather than go out in a cloud of smoke.

If you don't like it, don't go there and find another way to enjoy the game with people who feel similarly. That's what I've done.

I'm fine with people who post here and people who stick to the concert hall - but with people being fucking stupid on the internet on the rise, I feel that you should shut the fuck up and leave the majority of this website's population alone.

Yeah, I guess it is part of the culture; and for the most part I've grown to accept that and I am usually willing to put up with smokers.

I've always wondered how much business bowling alleys and pool halls would lose if smoking was banned in all establishments. I couldn't see anyone joining bowling leagues anymore; there is always a nice thick cloud of smoke hovering around whenever the leagues near where I live end. I can't really imagine pool halls either without smokers. A smoking ban would probably put most of those establishments out of business. It seems pool halls around me are already going out of business left and right as it is now.

I wish somehow an acceptable compromise could be found; something a little more than just the hour or so of "smoke free bowling" alleys here offer.

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