Or today at 3 PM.

VGChartz.com | [Unconfirmed] Nintendo to unveil a game today

Maybe E3 won't be a complete waste.

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Maybe.

Shin, just because most people own the games you mentioned doesn't mean that they're the only games on the system/the only good/bad games either. There's decent stuff. Hell, I play my Wii regularly.

Okay, no offense, I love you and all, but you did this all wrong. It should be more like this:

Rhythm Tengoku DS is getting a US release as Rhythm Heaven.

I mean, it was only the best game ever made on the GBA. News like that shouldn't get shoveled away like it's some kind of dirty secret. The only way they could possibly blow it is if they took out the music by Tsunku(who is ♂) and localized the game with music by Timbaland and Lil Jon. Here's a video and a website designer who doesn't know how to do the ♂!

I'm also a big fan of Nintendo. But just like Omnislash said (and all the thread too), the conference this year was wrong, very very wrong.

I suppose we won't have Wave Race for Wii (not that it's the best game ever, but I like it) because it is now part of Wii Sports Resort :(

Were is the next big hit? T_T

BTW, now I hope deveolpers are able to use the Motion Plus thing, to have better games, real cool awesome games.

Wii Music, do we really need that weird Mario Theme remix? And stock music -.-

I never said that there are no other games on Wii. All I said is that most people bought one for the novelty factor and as such will not buy any more games and as such, Nintendo ought to think about making some proper games and more to the point publicising them properly or otherwise the actual Gamers are going to desert the system and the 75% or so of Wii's that were bought for Wii Sports aren't going to generate any further software sales.

I am aware that other games exist but Nintendo's publicity machine seems obsessed with pushing the novelty ones and this E3 conference did nothing to dispel that idea.

I agree with you. Although Nintendo is doing well with Sales, I really feel the Wii is in desperate need of some better games for Adult gamers.

Waverace would be cool, a new zelda or mario, some good RPGs. I think RPGs could be awesome with the motion controls.

None of this air drumming, frisbee throwing shit.

I can guarantee you that GTA DS will NOT have "Mario and you have to drive around jumping on turtles or some equally banal crap like that, all the while using the stylus to draw pictures of which one you want to shoot at next and learning how to add up and cook better."

You're allowed to make predictions, but with fucking retarded predictions like this don't be surprised when someone thinks you're full of shit.

Again, you're talking from personal experience. Alot of my friends own Wii's too and alot of my friends have more than one game. In fact most of them have about 9 or 10 and not all of the are Mario minigame-fests or minigame-fests at all. SHOCK! HORROR!

It's curious, in Australia things are completely different. In most places the Wii section rivals the 360 sections, in very few stores are the sections noticably mismatched. And absolutely everywhere the Wii section giants the PS3 section available and that's including Blu-Ray DVDs which are normally stored side-by-side. So maybe your example isn't the case everywhere? But of course, that's just obvious isn't it.

If you had written a rational argument, I would have been able to read it and respond to it in a rational way. Instead you chose to fill it with KIDDY KIDDY KIDDY words.

I don't take well thought out, well written posts personally. But when staff, no less, start bashing their hands violently on the keyboard filling their posts with ignorant and childish console bashing, I get a little peeved.

You say this as if the man behind Morning Musume is the epitome of musical genius.

I used to think Morning Musume was some sort of Japanese coffee brand. That just isn't the case. =I

Well, I guess the special secret announcement never happened, but Miyamoto did mention Pikmin... so I guess we're getting Pikmin 3 sometime in the next 6 years. As if we didn't already know that.

Compared to Lil Jon? Yes. Yes he is.

You take that back right now. Lil Jon's CRUNKNESS is the only thing that could save Nintendo.

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YEAH!

You didn't answer my question. I was quite obviously joking when I suggested that GTADS would have Mario in (Although I stand by the point that there's be no blood or swearing in it) and regardless of how you think I'm framing the criticism, the fact remains that you're getting upset because I have a negative opinion of a piece of electronics. Not even that in fact, you're getting upset because I think the business model of a company that makes a certain type of games console and has already demonstrated it's ability to throw away vast slabs of market share, is flawed and I think they wasted an opportunity to show that they had other ideas beside Mario games and lifestyle coach accessories. Why would that annoy you? You do know that fostering irrational brand loyalty is a marketing trick right? You have given me no reasons why it upsets you that I forecast a bleak future for Nintendo, other than describing my words as "Kiddy", which coming from the boy who attempted to shout me down by typing all in capitals is pretty amusing. All I'm asking for is a calm, rational response to my question, why does it upset you that I think Nintendo should rethink their marketing strategy.

Also, I didn't realise you lived in Australia. I wouldn't have used shop displays as an example if I'd known you lived in a third world country.

Nintendo's changed a fair bit from their NES days of censoring everything, it'd be up to Rockstar if they wanted to include blood/swearing/nudity/drugs/pancakes whatever or not. DS already has the likes of Resident Evil, Mortal Wombat, Dead 'N' Furious, Dementium blah blah blah.

Although as much as I love GTA, I just can't get excited about the idea of playing it on the DS. It was bad enough on the PSP. It's one of those games that doesn't really suit the portable world. :(

Unless they turn it into a Tetris game or something where you drop dick blocks into cunt blocks to try and score maximum points, then some old guy yells about lawn bowls on the touch screen non-stop while all these cannons shoot out clowns on the top screen and the cartridge heats the DS up so much that battery acid leaks all over your hands. That'd be awesome.

So I am supposed to sift through your bullshit "framing" and find the real argument deep inside? Please. I read your argument how anyone else is going to read it, as a sarcastic, weak and unfunny swipe at Nintendo. I'm not taking issue with what you're saying, I'm taking issue with how your saying or "framing" it.

Nintendo is targetting the market it always has AND more. It's opened the door for other gamers to walk on through, while still making games for gamers who have remained loyal.

Nintendo has created games (or some on the way) on the Wii for almost all of it's major series, Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros., Metroid, Fire Emblem, Nintendo's Wars Series, Kirby, Animal Crossing, Wario and the numerous spin-off titles like Paper Mario, Mario Kart and the Mario Sports & Party titles. There's not too many more series that I can think of that need representation, maybe F-Zero and Star Fox. It's just now they're offering more.

Again, I'm not taking issue with your argument. Although I don't agree with it, it's all about your "framing".

Ugh, you keep asking the same question over and over and I'm afraid I'm going to answer you with basically the same answer. You posted like a child, I responded to you as a child. If you had posted a coherent post, I would have given you a coherent reply.

You can't just turn around and say "Hey, if you think I'm bad, why are you doing the same?" Did you think about why I responded to you like that? No.

Because you want Nintendo to change their market strategy based on what YOU want and WHAT you desire, when you have clearly stated that you have all the real gaming you need on other systems. That's stupid and narrow-minded. Wii doesn't always suit your needs, but another system does, move on and stop whining. Why have 3 identical consoles? Why shoot at the same goal?

Nintendo offers something different and panders to the same hardcore crowd it always has. I don't see how this is a bad target strategy. It's selling. It's working.

Hurr hurr.

Yeah, you'll have to forgive me. It was very exciting, but it was also four o'clock in the morning. The sleep was taking over!

But <3 <3 !! Now they just need to bring over Band Brothers DX while they're at it!

I never understood why that didn't make it over to US. A fantastic DS music game with a nearly-complete composition tool, how could that not be a success over here?

Well, the first one anyway! I haven't tried DX, but it looks like a smiley, so I like it already.

I'm sorry, I shall take the time out to read through your posting history to see how I should be posting then. Ah, I see the trick is to limit oneself to no more than a single sentence in a post whenever possible. I'm sure that would make my points easier to understand, thank you for enlightening me.

Two things here really. The market they've always had has been collapsing since the N64. Each generation sees them lose more and more market share so it would seem that "Sticking with what we know" is a losing strategy. I never said that they've not brought in new customers, what I suggested is that these new customers don't buy many games each. And then again, look you said people who remained loyal. You mean people who fell for the marketing tricks and have an irrational sense of brand loyalty right? Well fervent as Ninty's fanboys are (And you're a damn good example, not quite RABicle but not bad at all), there aren't enough of them to keep the Wii profitable. The very point I've been trying to make, is that yes, Nintendo do diligently re-release Mario and Smash Brothers and Zelda every couple of years and the brainwashed "Loyal" customers lap it up and buy every new version and now a lot of people have bought a Wii for a bit of Wii Sports action but if this is as ambitious as Nintendo get, then they will only see further reduction of their market share as their competitors manage to launch a much bigger range of products and as such cater to the mass market (Where all the money is). You imply that every Xbox game is a bland shooter or driving game but there's a reason for that, it makes them a shit load of cash and the whole point of my arguement this whole time, had you done me the courtesy of actually reading any of it instead of frothing at the mouth and going into defend the motherland mode on me, was that financially, Nintendo need to grab a slice of the mass-market pie otherwise they're going to struggle to maintain the Wii as a commercial product.

Or in other words, Nintendo has made the same nine games over and over again for the past few years and of those, Animal Crossing is hardly mass market and a big money spinner.

Sorry Captain Eloquent, I addressed this already though. One liners in future. Gotcha.

Aside from that it's not working, I guess I can't argue with that. You're right, Nintendo should stick to making lifestyle games and kids games and just keep rehashing their main titles for the "Hardcore" gamers who stuck by Nintendo through thick and thin because the ad-men told them to. Bravo.

I can't imagine your fanboy rage will even dent in the face of mere reason and logic so I think it's best if I remove myself from this discussion now, especially as Skills can't ban me from it and I don't want to be accused of feeding the trolls, or indeed the fanboys.

You win this time Captain Nintendo!

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This is a really interesting sentence. When you first read it, your brain processes the words but then stops because theres something just not right about it. Its like a goddamned grammical paradox of sorts.

How can you target MORE than what you're targeting at? Doesn't that mean you're aiming at random or firing wildly?

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I'm sure that seemed relevant in your head.

But...but...the Wii is profitable. Maybe it's not from "loyal" gamers alone, but why does it have to be? Nintendo is a business first, and right now it's a money making machine. They've chose a path that has made them all rich, why change it because YOU don't like it?

Also don't really know what marketing tricks you're referring to.

People buying games they like? Unthinkable. But strangely this isn't a Nintendo exclusive phenomenon. Strange that.

Again I fail to understand where you're getting the basis of your arguments from. Oh right! Your jaded personal experience.

The Wii and Nintendo making a SHIT-TON of money. It's selling INCREDIBLY well. The Wii MAKES money from every console sold as opposed to Sony and Microsoft who make a LOSS on every console sold. Software isn't where all the money is made.

You're talking out your ass and with every word you type it's just making it more and more obvious.

Animal Crossing DS sold 9.2 million copies. Again talking out your ass.

If it works (and it does) then all the power to them.

Bravo, you started and left an argument without making a coherent point.

any major announcements happen last night with that developer meeting?