lol, I love how you make things so dramatic where they are so simple.

you don't like something + don't buy it = point made

you trying to make a nagative point + thread for FF fans and people FOR the game = bad decision

See it's that simple

For the record it was I that brought up Ehrgeiz and it being a horrible game so where you got, "Slayer X disagress with my opinion that fighting games should have nothing to do with classic RPGs" is quite interesting. And secondly there's next to no chance that Dissidia is going to be a fighting game because it's and Action Progressive game (Ex PoP, God of War) or if they decide to add RPG elements it'll be like a Kingdom hearts. This is a point that has been made for the THIRD time, and you're still calling it a fighting game, are you even conversing here or throwing a tantrum?

No, he and I are telling you chill the fuck out and quit making baseless opinions over a couple of images. And to maybe stop insulting our intelligence. Oh, and actually READING what our posts are saying may help, since you obviously were putting words in our mouths from your incoherant rants.

And unlike other fanboys out there, graphics aren't enough to make me like a game. If I just like the graphics, I'd stick to desktop wallpapers instead of shelling out 50 bucks thanks. I think being able play against my buddies through wi fi and playing as various FF characters would be a neat game. If you don't find the idea appealing thats your opinion, but gives you no right to insult others who do.

Now for god's sake's chill. Its just a game, no need to get all pissy at anyone else.

Funny, I just spent the last few posts doing exactly that. Slayer, I have no say on his intelligence one way or the other. I haven't seen him often enough to form an opinion. You, on the other hand, come off like another SOLDIER/Grubdog etc, and are going to get scorned for it. Go back to your shitty taste in games and art and fuck right off.

If your opinion gives you the right to slam someone's taste, than by all rights I should be able to do the same, correct? Or is there a double standard I don't know about?

We all have our tastes and opinions, but insulting someone's because it differs to yours make you an asshole and a flamer, and its ruining the discussion. Unless you have anything more to say that's constructive or relevant, then don't post here at all, since its obvious you don't care for the game at all and just trying to attract attention. You made your point, now MOVE ON.

No, insulting someone's taste when you have no basis for it is pointless. You and I both know our disagreements start on Nomura. I flat out said he was a bad artist with no eye for composition, design and that his concepts were boring and idiotic. You argue that he's not. Where's your design degree hanging from? You like a bad artist, and I'm sorry that offends you, but one day you'll have to come to terms with your awful taste and move on with your life.

Because a bad artist is subjective, and you don't need to be a film maker to critque a movie, and that applies to art as well. If he can't draw, why would he even be hired in the first place?

Its all subjective, now move on. For Christ's sakes.

It's not all subjective. Art appreciation is subjective, art design has certain standards and forms to it. If you knew anything about design, you'd know that much. And no, you don't have to be a film MAKER to critique a movie, but you sure as fuck have to understand film, don't you? Or are you going to tell me that Uncle Buck is a great piece of American Cinema, and that it's all ok because it's subjective.

Then perhaps some actual details and elaboration could have HELPED your argument, instead of stating things over and over. Take a image, use MS paint to point out his flaws then. All I see is you whining and ranting over someone's opinion and over a couple of game screenshots like a lunatic. If you're so informed and educated, by all means grace us with your wisdom and knowledge. At least it would be more constructive than your rants. I'm not asking you to change your mind, I'm asking you to stop ragging on other's taste and opinions, and have some CONSTRUCTIVE argument and reasons to support your own.

Oh, a little detail and elaboration? This from someone who, on the first page, basically said what the fuck is this new genre name they've coined, and then a few minutes ago used it as a defense by saying it's not a fighting game, it's a Dramatic progressive action game? Please, you're clearly just taking the view that will best protect your precious SE. If you're so dense you can't understand that words like "dramatic progressive action game" are slang for "rehashed material bastardized," than you're more of an idiot than I give you credit for. Kudos on that.

Since when have I said it wasn't a fighting game? You confused my posts with Slayer X. I thought it was a fighting game the moment the scans came out.

Like I said, you don't read. And you're just ragging on my posts cause it makes you feel superior. I thought that genre name was ridiculous, since its pretty obivous is a fighting game from the scans. Doesn't mean its gonna automatically make it a crappy game.

I don't read every post every time I reply, no. Sorry for confusing the two of you. If I didn't read, hot shot, I wouldn't have known that was even posted at all.

You can't argue then if you're unwilling to read every post carefully. I suggest you stop all this before this derails the thead further. You have your opinion, I have mine, and Slayer X has his. Just leave it at that.

Ok, pay attention junior. I don't re-read every post before I reply. As in I'm not going to read the hundred posts before every single reply. I have an opinion, you have yours. It's a tragedy that your reputation as a Nomuraite is so prolific that I can't take it seriously.

Me being a "Nomuraite" (wow you actually took time to think of this?) is your subjective opinion. Doesn't make it true. There are designs he created that annoyed me belive it or not, you would have known however if you bothered reading the previous posts I made. Would have taken only 10 mins.

And insulting others doens't make your opinion more right or better, it just makes you look like you have a holier than thou attitude. I think you should quit posting in a game thread that you dont give a damn about, cause you're just gonna keep stirring up shit for no reason other than to feed your ego. I asked you to elaborate, you can't even give us that. I can't take YOU seriously cause your arguments have no back up.

Can we all go back to the topic on hand PLEASE?

Oh, but I do care about this game. I think it's a fucking travesty and incredibly indicative of Square's entire modern movement of halfass remakes and terrible new premises. I've given you my points on Nomura's work. He has bad composition, it's cluttered and it's repetitive. Maybe you were blinded by the chain wallets. You'd know that if you paid any attention to what I've said in other posts. Would have only taken you 10 minutes, junior.

Nomura does shitty design (and yes, he can be a bad artist and have a job. George Lucas keeps getting to make movies, and he's one of the worst dialogue writers in Hollywood). None of the modern Square rehashes have been anything but training exercises for new people who clearly aren't up to snuff. Square has tried this option before, and it turned out fucking horrible. Wow, three wrongs sure do lead to good things. Just because you disagree with my points doesn't mean I haven't made them, ace. Keep up.

I'm no artist nor do I view myself in the position to critique art. However as a gamer, I don't give a fuck if it's Nomura doing concept or Jim Bob the 24th, as long as I can look at a character and say, "that's Sephiroth and that's Zidane" that's all I care about. This who has the beter taste in art is stupid and if you really want to talk about it go somewhere else.

Denicalis: No you can't nor should read the previous 100 posts in a thread before posting, however reading the 10 or so latest ones that pertains to the current discussion is reasonable, as well as allows you to make in informative post. Like I said earlier, some of your prior posts were just totally uninformed as to what happened in simply the last three or so posts and simply makes you look bad. I'm not saying this to lay blame, anything that's done is done, just try to remember this for the future.

Let's keep the posts on topic from this point on. Thanks.

Info on battle system, courtesy of IGN :
There you have it folks, it is a FIGHTING GAME in full 3D enviroment.

Sounds more like Power Stone to me. I'd like to add more to this post, but there's really not much more that needs to be said. Power Stone + Final Fantasy = HOLY SHIT!!!

Ah! I knew it was a fighting game! I hope more than one character from each game will be in it, and not just the 'hero' and the 'villain.' Speaking of which, who'd be the villain for FFVIII? Seifer or Ultimecia?

Makes me want a PSP now. Luckily they're much cheaper now than they were at launch.

I.... oh christ.

Good fucking christ

i hope rydia's in it

Good god. Thank you lord for making me hold onto my PSP. Why is Square-Enix so godly when it comes to the graphics department.

I like what they did with Kuja, except for the whole thong looking thing. FFIX is the only final fantasy I have yet to play, though. Is he supposed to be like that?

omg this look so much fun! and i heard wireless play! well it's probably just psp to psp but we can always hope for an online mode XD I really can't wait for this now ^^

hmm yes and he look even more like a girl in FFIX. XD

As The Governator would say, Kuja is a GIRLY MAAAN.

So we finally got Final Fantasy The Fighter. At least we won't have a shortage of characters to include in the roster. They could even do a multi-man melee like Smash Bros and have have dozens of Cids appearing for you to fend off xD

I'm starting to look foward to this more, but then again, I don't have a PSP and I doubt I'll get one anytime soon. Should I eventually buy one, I'll probably get this along with 2-3 other games. Time will tell I suppose.

Damn. Looks like I'll have to be buying a PSP again soon. What with this and Crisis Core, as well as the Disgaea port and God of War: Chains of Olympus, it's about damn time some good games started coming out for this system.