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No. Hard Pass. Oct 18, 2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamamanama
As I said, not much to discuss over looks, and how am I supposed to determine that someone's nice from a casual observation?
I could say it, but it would be too easy.

But could you not simply approach the pretty girl, strike up a conversation, and then split if you realise she has all the intelligence of a hamster?

avanent Oct 18, 2006 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SCHWARZE-7
But could you not simply approach the pretty girl, strike up a conversation, and then split if you realise she has all the intelligence of a hamster?

Thats what I do :)

Marina Oct 19, 2006 08:27 AM

23, in university.
I like to dress whatever I want, usually the clothes that I can roll over and over on my bed (Big T-shirt & shorts),lol. By the way I always on my uniform.
I don't like the way the guys flirt on me so I like to wear casual clothes, even though there're some guys bother me.
I believe that the good relationship shoul start in polite and respect way. So I don't have any interest in flashy guys who judge the woman on her clothes.

Djinova Oct 19, 2006 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkWingedAngel
The replies are interesting but I have another question- Do you guys believe the things girls do- make up, tanning, nails, buying new clothes, etc- is a waste of time and/or money?

No it's not. Not every girl is doing this to target the opposite gender.
It's got to do with personality, self-respect, mirror-looking and comfortability.

Dubble Oct 19, 2006 01:06 PM

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Garret Oct 21, 2006 12:30 AM

Not being psychic, the only thing I have to go on when I first see a woman is her physical appearance.
Fair or not, people judge one another by looks and success. While looks can be deceiving, it's the only thing we have to go on. A woman with a firm body often *suggests* one with self control/respect. A woman in fine clothing suggests success and/or intellect.

It's the same with women judging a guy pulling up to the coffee shop by his car. If the guy is wearing nice clothing while driving a nice vehicle, chances are he has a good job and thus a good provider. At this point the woman probably won't mind talking to the guy to learn more, as she already knows he possesses at least one of the qualities she is looking for. This goes the same vice versa of course.

While almost every man does want a partner with a good sense of humor and a positive attitude, it can still only go so far in my eyes. While I do not expect supermodel beauty, I still want someone who has respect for their body.

For the Statistics.
23 - Recent Grad working in Career Job.

Domino Oct 21, 2006 08:36 AM

Further to my post above, I like women who have long hair and have it down, rather than up. Women look better (well, to me they do) with their hair down.

Also I forgot to mention:

I'm 23, and working. No school for me.

Dark Chocolate Oct 21, 2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Garret
Not being psychic, the only thing I have to go on when I first see a woman is her physical appearance.
Fair or not, people judge one another by looks and success. While looks can be deceiving, it's the only thing we have to go on. A woman with a firm body often *suggests* one with self control/respect. A woman in fine clothing suggests success and/or intellect.

1- If looks can be deceiving, then why don't some people get to those who aren't 'hot' or 'sexy'? What's wrong with the average looking one? It's one argument that came up in our class. If you know that you can't always base someone's personality off their looks, then why do you do it? It is human nature but why not just TRY to get to know the girl that's not as pretty?

2- How does a woman in fine clothing suggest intellect? I disagree. I wear the most casual comfortable clothes I can yet I graduated with over a 4.0 GPA and so far my grades in my classes (I'm at the University now) are straight A's. It may show success... she has money and can afford or she could be going in debt with her credit card(s) while shopping.

avanent Oct 21, 2006 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkWingedAngel
1- If looks can be deceiving, then why don't some people get to those who aren't 'hot' or 'sexy'? What's wrong with the average looking one? It's one argument that came up in our class. If you know that you can't always base someone's personality off their looks, then why do you do it? It is human nature but why not just TRY to get to know the girl that's not as pretty?

If being pretty or not being pretty is not realted to a good personality, then why go after someone less pretty if they have the same chance of having a good personality.

Ayos Oct 21, 2006 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland
Your first wife? Are you planning on getting a second one sometime soon or what? Here's a tip: Never refer to your wife as your "first wife" if you're planning on keeping her.

No, he lives in Colorado City, Arizona, where everyone runs a construction company and has multiple wives, and comes into Best Buy every Sunday asking "Do y'all have any AH-pods left?"

Ahem.

DWA, there are a few things I've realized lately about how women perceive men, and they kind of translate the other way around too - I just never realized it.
First of all, though... a person is born with what they've got. You're either ugly, attractive, or average. Duh. Most people are average-looking, very few people are truly UGLY, and about the same amount are naturally breathtakingly beautiful. Learning how to WORK with what you've got to MAKE it look more attractive is key. This is evidenced by all those celebrities and models that look like crap before they're fully awake. And the fact that I had no style at all when it came to clothes, and now I get compliments left and right on how well-dressed I am. Which has nothing to do with expensive clothing, cause I can't afford that. But it does have to do with distinctive style.

Before I go any further, I must stress that my favorite type of woman looks like this:
Between 5' and 6'
Anywhere between 120-180 lbs (e.g. not toothpick-thin, but no huge fat-rolls... just average)
Butt that's there but not huge
Boobs that are there but not huge (B-C cup, anyone?)
Nice teeth (not perfect teeth, just teeth that are taken care of)
Natural hair, longer is usually better, down not up, ponytails are hot
Little to no makeup
T-shirt and jeans or something equally comfortable, something that suits her if she meets the above characteristics.

Simple and natural. Yum.

Style isn't defined by expensive clothes, it's defined by how what you wear looks ON YOU, to other people. My advice to a girl would be much the same as my advice to a guy - if you wanna know what to wear, get someone of the opposite sex who has STYLE to take you shopping FOR YOU ... try on everything they suggest even if you're not sure of it.

So what do guys look for in a woman? The same thing women look for in men. Style, confidence, fun. If you're energetic and passionate, sufficiently unique compared to most, and you've got a generally appealing style, you can seem attractive - and then if you engage in entertaining good conversation, you can't do much more. If I meet a girl like that, I'm sold.

As for beneath the physical... well, you can't judge a woman based off of anything beneath the surface until you get to know her, so it's impossible to say what guys LOOK FOR that way. However what they like to come across when getting to know a woman, is in a way exactly the same as the physical - stylish, confident, fun. Energetic. Passionate. Unique. Intelligent.

Well, except those guys who just want sex and don't want to talk. Then you need to have a good body and no personality.

Garret Oct 21, 2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkWingedAngel
1- If looks can be deceiving, then why don't some people get to those who aren't 'hot' or 'sexy'? What's wrong with the average looking one? It's one argument that came up in our class. If you know that you can't always base someone's personality off their looks, then why do you do it? It is human nature but why not just TRY to get to know the girl that's not as pretty?

2- How does a woman in fine clothing suggest intellect? I disagree. I wear the most casual comfortable clothes I can yet I graduated with over a 4.0 GPA and so far my grades in my classes (I'm at the University now) are straight A's. It may show success... she has money and can afford or she could be going in debt with her credit card(s) while shopping.

1- Because an average person blends in, and thus is why they tend to be overlooked. When you are walking by a group of women, chances are the first one to catch your eye will be the one that stands out more. While walking down a busy street, I will study those whom I deem most interesting, since the time i have to study is limited.

As for sexy, it's a natural thing to be first looking at the one that is attractive, it's human biology. It doesn't mean that the very attractive one will be the one I speak to. On the other hand, chances are I won't be speaking to the one in the corner wearing the sweat pants either. This isn't because I think she is ugly or unintelligent, but simply because she won't draw enough attention to get my mind to think about her, unless she seems out of place. In which case I would probably crack a smile and wish I could do that sometimes. As Ayos stated, confidence is key. Those with confidence make it known, and often dress for it.

2- It depends upon your definition of intelligence. I know some extremely intelligent people whom have no idea that there exist pieces of clothing that don't portray some video game character. While you are right in saying that a woman dressed in very fine business attire may just be putting on a show while driving up her credit limit, she could also have a very good job and lots of success. Same could be true for the one wearing jeans. That is why we will talk to people, and even date them before getting into a serious relationship. That girl sitting in the corner wearing sweatpants may in fact be a super genius with an excellent job, but what has she done to draw any of my attention? There are different types of intelligence, it doesn't mean that you cannot succeed without straight A's in school. It all depends on the field you are in.

You asked what it was that I noticed in a girl. I just stated that although I know as well as many that looks can be deceiving, that it is all we have to go on. Most people dress to express themselves.

Dark Chocolate Oct 21, 2006 09:49 PM

I agree. People dress to express themselves. I dress casually, expressing I'm layed back, pretty much worry-free, relaxed, wanting to have fun... but when I see a girl who's dressed in those fasion outfits (that cost a lot of money) it's like "i'm high maintence". I don't know. Those girls dressed like that, at least when I was in high school, had the most "It's all about me" personalities. Then they got the boys and it's like "How? They are too into themselves" It's strange to me. And if it's because they aren't like that around their boyfriends, why the mask?

One day in high school this guy was like "There is no way you are the same person at home that you are in school" but I am. I'm the same person online that I am offline. I don't like wearing masks.

Garret Oct 22, 2006 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkWingedAngel
I agree. People dress to express themselves. I dress casually, expressing I'm layed back, pretty much worry-free, relaxed, wanting to have fun... but when I see a girl who's dressed in those fasion outfits (that cost a lot of money) it's like "i'm high maintence". I don't know. Those girls dressed like that, at least when I was in high school, had the most "It's all about me" personalities. Then they got the boys and it's like "How? They are too into themselves" It's strange to me. And if it's because they aren't like that around their boyfriends, why the mask?

One day in high school this guy was like "There is no way you are the same person at home that you are in school" but I am. I'm the same person online that I am offline. I don't like wearing masks.


Judging by the description of yourself, I would have judged you as a laid back person contempt with the way things are going, with not much desire for anything to change. I would probably also figure you to already be in a relationship. I'll be honest though, the "wanting to have fun" part would be the last thing I would figure someone of your description. Rarely do I meet outgoing women whom dress in plain clothes. those in loose comfortable attire are generally conservative and laid back.

As for the expensive high fashion ones, my mind screams *stay away*, fortunately it's rare that this wrong. It's those that dress in more professional clothing that interests me.

But then again, this was suppose to be a question of WHAT do I notice about a girl, not try to theorize the difference between how one dresses and their personality and life style.

MageDie Oct 22, 2006 04:41 AM

I think that girls make up and get enoticeable to "enchant" guys. So they womanise cuz there's a plenty of beauties. People are unable to detect the inside => they focus on the apparent.

zergkiller Nov 4, 2006 06:56 AM

Long legs, large breast, bared midriff are all very nice but what really knocks you over is a smile

Ayos Nov 5, 2006 02:55 PM

zergkiller likes Amazons with only one large breast. Me, I prefer that my females keep both of them, but if one is gone, I can make do. Because there are plenty of other great qualities in wemon. :)

No. Hard Pass. Nov 5, 2006 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zergkiller
Long legs, large breast, bared midriff are all very nice but what really knocks you over is a smile

Marking for post of the year reasons.

Battle_CRY Nov 6, 2006 08:04 PM

physically....I think that guys subconsciously pick girls who are healthy...full breasts and nice hips indicate fertility and could be a factor in what guys notice first about girls.....personally I notice eyes and smiles - i also like girl with chipmunk sorta lookin cheeks...makes them look cuter - personally speaking of course lol

amhso Nov 6, 2006 08:56 PM

When i first meet a girl, i see more of the face and hair and smile. Then it depends on personality from there. Not trying to be shallow, just it's how it works for me.

Bernard Black Nov 9, 2006 06:14 AM

You know, I actually think clothes do play a part in basic attraction. The way someone dresses is important to me. I'd probably be more attracted to someone who is able to dress in a way that matches and accentuates their natural figure.

Also, I wish people wouldn't call themselves or others shallow when what we're talking about here is first impression attraction; you're not going to know if she's a bitch or he's a bastard just by looks.

=+Yuni+= Nov 9, 2006 11:50 AM

I agree with thinking that how you dress is a big part of attraction. I don't want to be talking or approaching someone who looks like crap. Looks play more of a part in things than people want to admit. I swear when I ask people what they look for in the opposite sex they always say things like good personality, but how are you supposed to know if that person has a good personality right off the bat anyway.

You're definitely more likely to approach a person who looks good as opposed to looking crappy. I know it sounds mean, but I hardly meander my way to people who just do not look good. Granted that I hardly pull myself together to make myself look smashing anyway XD. I just about never put on makeup, and I tend to just throw on the t-shirt that's on the top of the pile each day. Hypocrite anyone? XP

S_K Nov 9, 2006 12:29 PM

Thanks for the link ElectricSheep I thought that was what happened but it's nice to see video evidence for a change because it's so easy to confused reality with fiction these days.

They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder however seems people go with what's generally accepted. As a guy it's easy to get drawn in on looks I won't deny it, I know people who will try and further their careers on looks and there are celebritys who aruguebly failed at everything else and have made a name for themselves just on those same 'looks' and guys fall for it hook line and sinker *cough* Paris Hilton! *cough* at the end of the day looks are only a bonus which leaves us later anyway, it's more about your sense of style and personality.

If anyone finds it hard to believe how overated woman looks can be just look at the internet! How much of the traffic is porn?! XD it's all a mixure of animal instincts and bloody confusing fantasy with reality. I think how much attention you pay to looks is to do with who are the kinda people you want to attract.

Red Blaze Nov 9, 2006 10:55 PM

*donates two pennies* =3

What a person wears is a big role. I mean, if you find a guy with dirty clothes, or a girl that's dresses pretty slutty... your relationship isn't going to last so long. Why? A dirty look would eventually bring irritation, and a slutty look would eventually result in losing trust.

I mean, I know I wouldn't want my girlfriend dressing all slutty, or with a short skirt to a party. Sure, she can dress as pretty as she want, but not slutty.

What I notice on a girl is not her looks. Honestly, I can date a fat girl for all I care. So long as her person-hood is pleasant to be around with, I'm happy. And yes, I've dated a girl well over my weight. But she had the prettiest smile I've ever seen, yet.

My way of thinking, is the following: A girl can be very pretty and attractive, but it's her way of being that would make her the most beautiful of all.

Lost_solitude Dec 4, 2006 05:29 PM

a long beautifull well kept head of hair! Youve got that and you already have my attention...I dont know why im a sucker for girls with long hair.


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