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dagget Sep 11, 2006 02:00 AM

AWESOME.. just.. FUCKING AWESOME. The server went down for "emergency maintenance" for 2 hours. Right before we started back in MC. My Shaman is 57 and I went in. first off, I won the Earthfury Shoulders! SWEET! Then we one shot everything and get to Domo. ONE SHOT DOMO! So we decide to go see rag. With 25 people left in the raid group, we get Rag to 89%.

Oh my god.. I thought I'd never see Rag EVER... now I have, and I feel like all that time running MC since Janurary with at least 3 different guilds has paid off. ;_;

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Man. Were you on the testservers where EVERY FUCKING WARRIOR had a earthshake? Scared the shit out of you.

Heh...Is that serverlag crap still going on? That shit was bad when I quit 2 months ago. At some point is was so bad that for 2 straight weeks at around 7 PM NOBODY could raid because people got either disconnected every 10 seconds, or they had a nice ping of 20k.

heh that lag happened with us too. I think it's because the server that Laughing Skull and Thunderhorn are on are the same ones. They brought it down Wed for 36 hours for new hardware, then saturday night, the server just goes "pbbblt" then today at about 5-ish, we are in MC "OH BTW LOLZ WE NEED 2 TAKE SERVER DOWN AGAIN, K? ^_^" ugh. so I just started my character back up on Black Dragonflight.

The_Griffin Sep 11, 2006 06:57 AM

Grats on the EF shoulders. For healing, what you'll want to work towards is DEFINITELY the Ten Storms bracers, boots, and (I think) leggings for the 3-piece bonus, and the rest Earthfury. That combo is literally the best you can get until Tier 3.

Never, EVER, though, roll on any other piece of Ten Storms, or spend DKP, or do anything to get it unless it's guaranteed to be free and it's gonna be sharded otherwise. The freaking Tier .5 helmet is better than the Ten Storms helmet. ._.

dagget Sep 11, 2006 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Griffin
Grats on the EF shoulders. For healing, what you'll want to work towards is DEFINITELY the Ten Storms bracers, boots, and (I think) leggings for the 3-piece bonus, and the rest Earthfury. That combo is literally the best you can get until Tier 3.

Never, EVER, though, roll on any other piece of Ten Storms, or spend DKP, or do anything to get it unless it's guaranteed to be free and it's gonna be sharded otherwise. The freaking Tier .5 helmet is better than the Ten Storms helmet. ._.

It's always free. No DKP in our runs.

I didn't do a too bad job healing with me not being Restore. (Elemental/Enhanced) My only problem was getting out of mana way too fast, even from lesser healing waves. I'll probably respec today, since I'm 57 and really don't need much more to level

Xellos Sep 11, 2006 11:24 AM

Mana Stream totems are pathetic compared to paladins wisdom. I guess for shamans it's good that you guys get paladins, but on the other hand, you might lose raid spots because they are better more effecient healers.

I think it's a bad move from blizzard personally to get rid of the only thing that seperated the horde and alliance.

Karl Sep 11, 2006 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by immp
Are you running the tbc sandbox before running BC?

Of course! :P

The_Griffin Sep 11, 2006 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dagget
It's always free. No DKP in our runs.

I didn't do a too bad job healing with me not being Restore. (Elemental/Enhanced) My only problem was getting out of mana way too fast, even from lesser healing waves. I'll probably respec today, since I'm 57 and really don't need much more to level

You're a suicide build? =o

Trust me and wait until 60 to respec. And might I suggest a 30/0/21 or 0/30/21 build? Those two allow you Nature's Swiftness, which, IMO, is a must-have talent for raiding, and allows you to maintain a decent PVP capability. If you're going to be focusing more on raiding than PVP, then you might also consider the Enhancement build because it allows you to farm efficiently with little to no downtime. If you're going to be raiding exclusively and/or there's no Healing Way specced shaman running, however, you'd most likely be best off going with a 0/5/46 build and getting all the goodies Resto has to offer, as much as I am loathe to admit it.

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Mana Stream totems are pathetic compared to paladins wisdom. I guess for shamans it's good that you guys get paladins, but on the other hand, you might lose raid spots because they are better more effecient healers.

I think it's a bad move from blizzard personally to get rid of the only thing that seperated the horde and alliance.
Eh, you're thinking in terms of today's raiding. 25-mans are going to most likely result in a very high demand for hybrids, and pallies and shammies are being shifted more or less to the point where the only thing they have in common is a healing spell. If blizzard pulls it off right, then both are going to have their place: Paladins will be needed for tanking (personally, I hope that they're made as effective yet different from warrior tanking, myself, and the preview of their snap-aggro spell looks to accomplish that), and shammies will be needed for DPS... although they need to work on that a little bit. Giving us a 20% natural aggro reduction deep in Enhancement, an Evocate copy-cat or the like deep in Elemental, and an aggro wipe like other classes either already have or are getting would go a LONG way to accomplishing this. Our 41-pointers need buffing BADLY, too. Totem of Wrath translates to about 1.25% crit, and Unleashed Rage, under the most generous and unlikely of circumstances, basically translates into a free major mana potion. With Judgement of Wisdom, it's... okay, but I'd rather not have to rely on another person's proc for my own viability.

dagget Sep 11, 2006 05:04 PM

Nah, I just went 0/11/38 (probably will go the full 40 when I hit 60) This is just because this shaman will be my main raiding character with this guild I'm running MC and BWL soon with. Of course, I want to run BWL with my warrior, because well I like wrath~

Six Machine Sep 11, 2006 06:32 PM

Ten Storms helps with keeping Ancestral Fortitude up at all times. I didn't see why ten storms needed crit until I saw Patchwerk and co.

Xellos Sep 11, 2006 08:20 PM

Paladins tanking is the end of the world. Please let that not happen!

You hordie warriors are going to feel the pain of losing plate to loladins soon as well. Your precious days of plate = warrior are soon over. I wouldn't mind if it's a competent paladin, but 99% of the paladins I saw that went for everything that had plate in it, were complete morons.

I can Heal! Need that plate!
I can Tank! Need that plate!
I can do damage! (lol) Need that plate!

Yes, there's plenty of them. Everytime I see a paladin with the best dps plate gear and a dark edge of insanity I cry IRL.

dagget Sep 11, 2006 10:50 PM

Yeah, that's going to suck ass. I'm going to hate being in those runs. :(

I was searching for BC videos. Apparently Blizz went on a massive deleting spree and got rid of a bunch, including one of what the BE mount looked like. :(

However I did find this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25958707148090

Inside Kharazan. OMFG. I SOOOOOOOOOO want to go exploring in that place really bad. is this one of the areas accessible from the Sandbox?

Jessykins Sep 12, 2006 12:31 AM

Yeah. The place is fucking ridiculously huge.

Six Machine Sep 12, 2006 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Xellos
Paladins tanking is the end of the world. Please let that not happen!

You hordie warriors are going to feel the pain of losing plate to loladins soon as well. Your precious days of plate = warrior are soon over. I wouldn't mind if it's a competent paladin, but 99% of the paladins I saw that went for everything that had plate in it, were complete morons.

I can Heal! Need that plate!
I can Tank! Need that plate!
I can do damage! (lol) Need that plate!

Yes, there's plenty of them. Everytime I see a paladin with the best dps plate gear and a dark edge of insanity I cry IRL.

Luckily I'm a warrior and guild master :D

The_Griffin Sep 12, 2006 04:22 AM

Heh, you better pray then that Blizzard doesn't force raids to bring tankadins along then by requiring massive healing one fight and massive tanking the next.

Which may very well happen, given the direction they seem to be taking.

immp Sep 12, 2006 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dagget
Inside Kharazan. OMFG. I SOOOOOOOOOO want to go exploring in that place really bad. is this one of the areas accessible from the Sandbox?

As far as I know its not. I dont have the co-ords to get in and I havent seen them anywhere =(
I cant wait to step into that place...a 5 man saved instace I can do with my closest friends, how cool is that?

midais Sep 12, 2006 07:58 AM

More realm downtime again...except this time its every single realm... :annoyed:

dagget Sep 12, 2006 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by midais
More realm downtime again...except this time its every single realm... :annoyed:


Yeah, it's called "Tuesday Maitenance" Every Tuesday...

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Originally Posted by immp
As far as I know its not. I dont have the co-ords to get in and I havent seen them anywhere =(
I cant wait to step into that place...a 5 man saved instace I can do with my closest friends, how cool is that?

Unless they changed it, Kharazan is 10 man. That's still 100x better than 40 though :P

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Originally Posted by Jessykins &lt (Post 3)
Yeah. The place is fucking ridiculously huge.

I can't wait to see what purpose the Chess Room will be...and the Observatory looks cool as fuck.

midais Sep 12, 2006 08:47 AM

Heh, completely forgotten the Tuesday Maintenance, after all the regular downtimes Bleeding Hollow and the BC downtimes lately...

dagget Sep 12, 2006 09:12 AM

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Heh, completely forgotten the Tuesday Maintenance, after all the regular downtimes Bleeding Hollow and the BC downtimes lately...

lol. Yeah, Thunderhorn had it's fair share of down time the past week. ._.

immp Sep 12, 2006 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dagget
Unless they changed it, Kharazan is 10 man. That's still 100x better than 40 though :P

Ah ok, I was confusing it with hellfire. !0 man at lvl 70...I wonder if it will be like ubrs or if it will have endgame tier items.

dagget Sep 12, 2006 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by immp
Ah ok, I was confusing it with hellfire. !0 man at lvl 70...I wonder if it will be like ubrs or if it will have endgame tier items.

Kharazan is supposed to be where some of the expansions really good shit drops. I think it may be Tier 4, not too sure. If it is, I'm willing to be you need the T3 to upgrade it. I sorta hope that it has it's own distinctive Tier though, for the fact the warrior T4 armor looks sweet, if in fact what I've seen is true.

rpgcrazied Sep 12, 2006 01:24 PM

wow, some of you guys are lucky... wish i could be in the alpha ;/ hell, even to play it offline!

and im on Whisperwind, which is offline all day today.. again!

dagget Sep 13, 2006 05:30 AM

I found the Blood Elf mount... holy fucking shit. It looks awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIO3shT941A

Moer liek a Pheonix than Cockatrice amirite.

Jessykins Sep 13, 2006 05:48 AM

Pretty sure that isn't the regular BE mount. As of yet, I don't think anybody in the alpha has leveled a blood elf high enough to purchase their level 40 mount, and if they have, they haven't said anything.

If anything that will be the flight path mount when flying from Blood Elf towns and territories. The fact that it would simply hover alone makes it pretty dumb to begin with, I mean it's a fucking phoenix. Use a phoenix to fly, use a cockatrice to walk.

I'll add that a friend of mine in the alpha says it's still just Wyverns and Bats, but then again, Shadowmoon Valley consists of a bunch of red outlines where things will be and several classes have no talents, soooo... who knows? Wait until later alpha builds. We'll be seeing their mounts soon enough.

dagget Sep 13, 2006 06:11 AM

eh, I dunno. I just want the expansion to hurry it's ass up.. or at least Blizzard fucking ALLOW people to make videos and post them. Like say let them just be able to film areas and shit, but leave new bosses alone and everything.


ALSO... it appears more people are getting their accounts hacked. Another person from our server got hacked. He just hit High Warlord last week, this week he logs on his character and everything that can be D/Ed and vendored, was on all his characters. GG. He's hoping to get his stuff back soon, but I've heard where it takes up to a month and even then it depends on the person who handles your case. Some people get their shit back, others get a big whopping 150g.

immp Sep 13, 2006 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessykins &lt (Post 3)
Pretty sure that isn't the regular BE mount. As of yet, I don't think anybody in the alpha has leveled a blood elf high enough to purchase their level 40 mount, and if they have, they haven't said anything.

The people who actually play the alpha are given characters already at lvl 60 so ya never know.


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