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PiccoloNamek Sep 22, 2007 07:19 PM
I'm fairly certain the first (or one of the first) visual appearances of optical camouflage was in Predator, actually.

Sexninja Sep 22, 2007 07:52 PM
Anyways , check this out.
Amazing texture work, you can feel the wind, check wind direction i in the map, physics are cool and more , the demo will do the talking.

HD versions are there on ruliweb here are stream versions
GeeVee - Metal Gear Solid 4 TGS Demo - Part 1 (Ruliweb)
GeeVee - Metal Gear Solid 4 TGS Demo - Part 2

I need this demo now!
Sony could use this demo at xmas to boost ps3 sales.

Strife Sep 23, 2007 03:33 AM
Might I suggest that anyone who is intrested in MGS4, check out "The 1up show" this week, they talk in depth about their chance to play the demo for about a hour and a half. I found it to be pretty intresting and I also like their takes on most everything they review and talk about...

Just letting everyone know :)

Simo Sep 23, 2007 09:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 506621)
Spoiler:
That's a good question. Why is it that the military/gov't haven't anything to clean up the facility?
Spoiler:
Well given Ocelot leaked the specs soon after on the black market maybe they thought it wasn't worth it and just set up security and shut the base down. I think I recall a bit of information in MGS2's extra features with those newspaper clips and Nastasha's book which mentioned a journalist going out to Shadow Moses but being captured by an unknown group where he was then rescued by Snake and Meryl...?



Quote:
Bleh, that sucks. It doesn't even sounds like they intend to release it. Why must they deny us the chance to play it!?! Hmm, maybe they're planning to package it an upcoming game of theirs...
Well Kojima Productions doesn't have a title coming out between now and MGS4's release and with no Official Playstation Magazine anymore they can't really bundle it with anything. I honestly expect the expect the demo to be released before the year's end if anything because of the overwhelming positive reaction at the show. I mean even with 48 stations set up and only allowed 15 minutes of play time there was still a 4 hour wait line to play the demo.

It'll probably be worth keeping an ear out for Payton's podcasts and see if he'll reveal anything next week or in the weeks to come.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Strife (Post 507017)
Might I suggest that anyone who is intrested in MGS4, check out "The 1up show" this week, they talk in depth about their chance to play the demo for about a hour and a half. I found it to be pretty intresting and I also like their takes on most everything they review and talk about...

Just letting everyone know :)
Saw the show and I'd recommend too. Some interesting details they talk about that some sites haven't covered and their impressions of the Dual Shock 3 was interesting too. At least with the demo coverage we now some details that sort out the story and the clarification that the demo is approximately 15 minutes into the actual game.

Ruliweb has the better video available though since the demo is being played by someone who is, well, actually good. Stream is available in a post or 2 above but the downloadable HD versions are much better and worth keeping:
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Interesting note from the first Codec conversation with Otacon involving Metal Gear MkII that I'll spoiler code just incase...
Spoiler:
Apparently the MKII was developed and constructed by both Otacon and Sunny which means they must of already rescued her prior to MGS4.

The trailer kind of made it seem that Naomi and Sunny were both captured together and being held by Liquid but I guess not now.

Metal Sphere Sep 23, 2007 11:06 AM
Something about those images...

Spoiler:
Old Snake? I don't know if I'm reading into this a little too much, but are we going to wind up playing as a different Snake at some point? Or someone else entirely? The prospect of playing as Johnny amuses me to no end.

Oh and the weapons are crazy, damn.

Simo Sep 23, 2007 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere (Post 507080)
Something about those images...

Spoiler:
Old Snake? I don't know if I'm reading into this a little too much, but are we going to wind up playing as a different Snake at some point? Or someone else entirely? The prospect of playing as Johnny amuses me to no end.

Oh and the weapons are crazy, damn.
Spoiler:
I don't think so as Kojima stated that Snake would be the main and you play as. Of course it might not rule out being able to control Cyborg Raiden or any other character but right now it's just Snake that we know is the only playable character.

The name just refers to what the developers and fans are supposed to know Snake as now as well as the rest of the cast in comparison of what they were when most first met them in MGS1 to who they are now at the end of it all. Examples being Solid Snake - Old Snake, Col. Campbell - Roy Campbell, Revolver Ocelot - Liquid Ocelot etc. that the E3 2K6 trailer emphasised.


I love the variety of weapons in the game now and weapon customisations makes it all the more sweeter. :D

PiccoloNamek Sep 23, 2007 12:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere (Post 507080)
Something about those images...

Spoiler:
Old Snake? I don't know if I'm reading into this a little too much, but are we going to wind up playing as a different Snake at some point? Or someone else entirely? The prospect of playing as Johnny amuses me to no end.

Oh and the weapons are crazy, damn.
Spoiler:
They call him "Old" snake because his aging was accelerated due to the fact that Big Boss was already old when his clones were created.

Slayer X Sep 23, 2007 12:31 PM
He wasn't confused about the story element, but the literal element. Why would they bother to put Old Snake on the health bar instead of just snake like usual? It seems redundant if it didn't have a point to it.

PiccoloNamek Sep 23, 2007 12:34 PM
Ah, I see. Sorry about that.

Megalith Sep 23, 2007 02:53 PM
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/ar...0004547550.jpg

How would that even fire.

Strife Sep 23, 2007 02:58 PM
What's everyone's opinion on Metal Gear Online?

I played MGS3 Online, and it was alright, but is it the new one gonna be a rehash? Anyone looking forward to MGO?

Slayer X Sep 23, 2007 03:14 PM
I am looking forward to MGO BIG TIME! I was addicted to MGS3: Online which was an online mini-game really. So to have a fully developed version is going to be intense.

@Megalith
I'm sure it would be awkward at best. But I don't think MGS is at least the creator of this concept, as to whether it's a real world weapon or not I have no clue.

http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/p...ey_Shotgun.jpg

Megalith Sep 23, 2007 03:30 PM
Apparently it's been confirmed that the game runs natively at 1080p, which is really impressive considering how the latest gameplay footage looks.

But imagine how it would have looked if they just went with 720p.

Slayer X Sep 23, 2007 03:48 PM
I'm sure that they built the engine and assets to look how they wanted long before they worried about native resolution. We'll probably never know, but knowing Kojima through his interviews he usually shoots for visual excellence on all fronts, so I'm sure that he wouldn't sacrificed one thing for another. Then again even if they did, we would probably never hear about it.

Tagonist Sep 23, 2007 05:15 PM
Old Snake:
Spoiler:
That MIGHT have something to do with the YOUNG Snake they had appearing briefly in one of the trailers. So maybe there'll be an introduction sequence (ala the Tanker) where we play as Old Snake, and then we'll play as "Young Snake", or whatever that clone-face will be called.
Then again, maybe that was all just a joke / red herring, and there'll be no "Young Snake".
Though that "Old Snake" showing up there... I think there'll be another playable character, and as Kojima said, we'll be playing snake, it's probably the yung'un. I somewhat doubt they put yet another character up who "inherits" the Solid Snake codename.

Megalith Sep 23, 2007 05:34 PM
There's obviously some kind of regenerative/de-aging serum developed by Naomi that you take sometime in the game, part of which revolves around that girl with the petal in her hair.

Lizardcommando Sep 23, 2007 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 507160)
I am looking forward to MGO BIG TIME! I was addicted to MGS3: Online which was an online mini-game really. So to have a fully developed version is going to be intense.

@Megalith
I'm sure it would be awkward at best. But I don't think MGS is at least the creator of this concept, as to whether it's a real world weapon or not I have no clue.

http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/p...ey_Shotgun.jpg
I'm pretty sure that gun mod is real. It's probably being used in the Iraq war right now.

Metal Sphere Sep 23, 2007 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagonist (Post 507205)
Old Snake:
Spoiler:
That MIGHT have something to do with the YOUNG Snake they had appearing briefly in one of the trailers. So maybe there'll be an introduction sequence (ala the Tanker) where we play as Old Snake, and then we'll play as "Young Snake", or whatever that clone-face will be called.
Then again, maybe that was all just a joke / red herring, and there'll be no "Young Snake".
Though that "Old Snake" showing up there... I think there'll be another playable character, and as Kojima said, we'll be playing snake, it's probably the yung'un. I somewhat doubt they put yet another character up who "inherits" the Solid Snake codename.
Spoiler:
Yeah, after seeing 'Old Snake' up there I immediately jumped to whether you would control a 'Young Snake' or another character at some point. I still don't know what the deal is with that other clown that we saw. Maybe they let you control Meryl and her team to experience that whole 'fighting as one' thing?

Also, does anyone think Johnny's face and the Haven Trooper character shown will be big revelations? I mentioned this elsewhere and people mentioned it might be Olga, but then remembered she's dead, so yeah.

Hantei Sep 24, 2007 12:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simo (Post 507060)
Well Kojima Productions doesn't have a title coming out between now and MGS4's release and with no Official Playstation Magazine anymore they can't really bundle it with anything. I honestly expect the expect the demo to be released before the year's end if anything because of the overwhelming positive reaction at the show. I mean even with 48 stations set up and only allowed 15 minutes of play time there was still a 4 hour wait line to play the demo.
Yea I figured as much as well, haha, but still want the demo now. I don't wanna see anymore game demonstrations, I just want my taste!


And man that shotgun mount is pretty crazy, didn't think something like that actually existed. Kinda disappointed that the mounts are just limited to a top and bottom one though. I wonder if the weight from having a fully mounted weapon would affect your precision, and other factors, eg. stress and speed. I'm assuming the same weapon customization system is available in MGO as well, at least I hope it is. Haha, cause an M4 with that Masterkey mount will be so sweet online.

Metal Sphere Sep 24, 2007 12:27 AM
Anyone check out this info yet? Sounds pretty interesting (potential spoilers for folks avoiding any info):

Spoiler:
Highlights of the interview:

-SoP stands for "Sons of the Patriots", which is where the title comes from, and is injected into the PMCs.

-Johnny in Meryl's FOXHOUND from the trailer is the same one from MGS and MGS2

-You can save the Beauty and the Beast unit members, or choose to kill them. He will also explain why Screaming Mantis has Psycho Mantis and The Sorrow figures.

-EVA is in her 80s and the name "Big Mama" means more then just a nickname her followers gave her.

-MGS4 will be the last game Kojima personally directs, but there will be a MGS5 at some point, but most likely not involving Solid Snake.

-Sunny's a prodigy apparently

-Haven Troopers are Liquid's special forces

K_ Takahashi Sep 24, 2007 01:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere (Post 507080)
Something about those images...

Spoiler:
Old Snake? I don't know if I'm reading into this a little too much, but are we going to wind up playing as a different Snake at some point? Or someone else entirely? The prospect of playing as Johnny amuses me to no end.

Oh and the weapons are crazy, damn.
Spoiler:
Since every MGS game after 1/Twin Snakes had two parts to the story (MGS2 Tanker/plant MGS3 Virtuous Mission/ Snake Eater) I wouldn't be surprised if we get to play as young Snake or something like that, though, it doesn't make sense when we saw that younger Snake in the trailer when he met up with Campbell in the chopper and he looked rather old so my theory of Snake being in the Middle East for a few years theory was shot down.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Megalith Prime (Post 507212)
There's obviously some kind of regenerative/de-aging serum developed by Naomi that you take sometime in the game, part of which revolves around that girl with the petal in her hair.
Spoiler:
It will probably work like the stamina gauge in MGS3, though, it will probably eat away at your life when you are at 0%

dagget Sep 24, 2007 07:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere (Post 507362)
Anyone check out this info yet? Sounds pretty interesting (potential spoilers for folks avoiding any info):

Spoiler:
Highlights of the interview:

-SoP stands for "Sons of the Patriots", which is where the title comes from, and is injected into the PMCs.

-Johnny in Meryl's FOXHOUND from the trailer is the same one from MGS and MGS2

-You can save the Beauty and the Beast unit members, or choose to kill them. He will also explain why Screaming Mantis has Psycho Mantis and The Sorrow figures.

-EVA is in her 80s and the name "Big Mama" means more then just a nickname her followers gave her.

-MGS4 will be the last game Kojima personally directs, but there will be a MGS5 at some point, but most likely not involving Solid Snake.

-Sunny's a prodigy apparently

-Haven Troopers are Liquid's special forces
Spoiler:
Wasn't that supposed to be something implemented in MGS 2, where you had the option to kill a boss, or use the tranqs on them and not kill them? I want to say that it was assumed if you chose to tranq them instead of kill them, that the story would have been altered or something... but everyone ended up dead anyway. :| Unless I'm thinking about something entirely different.

K_ Takahashi Sep 24, 2007 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dagget (Post 507421)
Spoiler:
Wasn't that supposed to be something implemented in MGS 2, where you had the option to kill a boss, or use the tranqs on them and not kill them? I want to say that it was assumed if you chose to tranq them instead of kill them, that the story would have been altered or something... but everyone ended up dead anyway. :| Unless I'm thinking about something entirely different.
Spoiler:
You always got some form of reward when you chose not to kill a boss, I know in MGS2 Substance you got collectable dogtags most of the time, in MGS3 you got the enemy's cammoflage (cept THE END, you have to hold him up to get his, otherwise, you get his Mosin Nagant if you reach his stamina to zero). I dont recall any story changes (or in the logical sense TIME PARADOXES) if you tranq them, just makes your non-kill record look good at the end of the game.

Sexninja Sep 24, 2007 11:42 AM
Koji mentioned in one interview
Old snake comes from SOLID - IS(existence) = old.

After demo its first time i am excited for MGS gameplay over cutscenes/story.

One thing to notice in demo is stress level below health bar, maybe 'snake needing injection' comes from there.


Spoiler:

That interview rocks.
Who can possibly in MGS5
Otacon,Sunny or raiden.
Raiden is to ninjaistic to be work as slowy stealthy hero?

You can save the bosses is really cool thing.

Ans yes i really liked the idea of snake/otacon beiong executed in the end by law.
May be thats why games are not art, market and input of others change the original decision.

K_ Takahashi Sep 24, 2007 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexninja (Post 507489)

One thing to notice in demo is stress level below health bar, maybe 'snake needing injection' comes from there.


Spoiler:

That interview rocks.
Who can possibly in MGS5
Otacon,Sunny or raiden.
Raiden is to ninjaistic to be work as slowy stealthy hero?
Spoiler:
the stress probably has something to do with Snake's lower-back pain from the crouch-walk-thing.

The thing that gets me is things that will probably be in the game, but not confirmed until release is what happened to Raiden's kid? since Rose was pregnant at the end of MGS2 I haven't heard of any theories on this (nor Rose being anywhere in MGS4, executed by the Patriots maybe?)


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