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Stealth May 16, 2006 08:19 PM

That rumor came up because some idiot thought no Wifi meant no wireless controllers.

Why anyone even thought it was true for a second is beyond me. But yeah, the upgradeable harddrive sounds nice.

seanne May 16, 2006 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
Is it me, or are Japanese players fuckin' biased as hell?! Take a look at their Top 10 for the Most Impressive stuff at E3!

Why are they "blinded" for prefering news about the PS3 from this particular show? I'm pretty sure that a revelation of the final PS3 controller was something that potential PS3 buyers were all very interested in hearing about. (Since for all we knew previously, they were about to give us a damn sidewinder look-a-like!)

What's really funny is that people seem to think that the PS3 won't sell just because it has a ridiculous price tag.

Kesubei May 16, 2006 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
What the hell? I know it's nothing groundbreaking but I didn't know they were that blinded.

Blinded by what, exactly? I don't think you realize how one-sided the market is here for home consoles. It's PS2, and nothing else. You go into a store, and the Xbox and GC get one combined isle. The DS and PSP get their own isle, and the PS2 is the rest of the store. In addition, the Japanese don't seem to really care about innovative gameplay for consoles. The arcades, with games like Sangokushi Taisen or the upcoming Psy-Phi, have plenty of customs cabinets to serve that purpose.

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Originally Posted by BlueBomber
This might be a dumb question, but how much of the entire gaming market does Japan make? I mean, are there more profits in games there as opposed to here?

The United States has the largest gaming market, followed by Japan.

SketchTheArtist May 16, 2006 08:42 PM

Impression and presentation of PlayStation 3 Controller.

So basically, the fact that they've used the SAME design as the PS/PS2 controller, slapped the wireless side of it which the Gamecube and Xbox 360 already have and threw in the Gyroscopic control scheme of the already-announced Wii controller makes it the most impressive thing out of E3?

Wow.

Stealth May 16, 2006 08:44 PM

I don't see why you're complaining about the wireless functionalities. We've known about them for a long time.

SketchTheArtist May 16, 2006 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by INDIGO-1
I don't see why you're complaining about the wireless functionalities. We've known about them for a long time.

Exactly, and yet it's one of the 'strongest' thing at E3.

Kesubei May 16, 2006 08:56 PM

It made an impression because it was unknown of what the PS3 controller was going to be. I don't see why they shouldn't be impressed. It would take much adjusting to play many of the games that sell big here on a Wii-like pad.

Kaleb.G May 16, 2006 09:00 PM

RE: Sketch's Famitsu List

Who was polled for this? Did they ask a bunch of people at the Sony booths to get their results or what? I can understand people being interested in learning more about Sony's new console, but when they have "PlayStation 3 menu and user interface" at number 5, it makes me wonder if this is just a joke. Seriously, why should so many people give a shit about the PS3 menus over important stuff like the games that will be running on the system?

Kesubei May 16, 2006 09:24 PM

Sketch's list seems to have come from here: http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/200...53203,0,0.html, the first list on the page. It's not a poll at all; I think it's just a ranking of which piece of news got the most hits on famitsu.com over E3.

SketchTheArtist May 16, 2006 10:36 PM

I took it from a gaming news site, The Magic Box which said that it came from a poll.

Karasu May 16, 2006 10:47 PM

To be honest...I dont see the reason in needing a wireless controller. I would have much rather had a rumble feature instead of wireless. I think wireless stuff should be for the people like Logitech and Mad Catz [lmao, they even around still?] to make those accessories, not the major companies such as Sony or Nintendo. It's just silly to me.


I think what really concerns me is this whole 'ps3 not compatable with the ps2 ans ps1 memory cards' thing.



[if these things have been answered and discussed, don't get all pissed because I dont regularly follow this thread by every post. >_>]

Tails May 16, 2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SCHNEE-1
To be honest...I dont see the reason in needing a wireless controller. I would have much rather had a rumble feature instead of wireless. I think wireless stuff should be for the people like Logitech and Mad Catz [lmao, they even around still?] to make those accessories, not the major companies such as Sony or Nintendo. It's just silly to me.


I actually like the idea of wireless controllers. I got a chance to try out some on an Xbox 360 the other day and it's just nice to be able to take/move the thing anywhere and not have to worry about cords. That's definetly a smart move on the part of next-gen sytems, incorporating that as a default.

As for the rumble/shock feature, Sony would just get sued again if they did use it.

Technophile May 17, 2006 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
I took it from a gaming news site, The Magic Box which said that it came from a poll.

I doubt this is an acurate survey of what was most impressive at E3. I understand not seeing much Microsoft love on there considering that Xbox is still 3rd in terms of popularity over there. However, it'd most probebly be a lot more evenly split between Sony and Nintendo had it been a thorough survey.

yangxu May 17, 2006 01:58 AM

The only thing that interested me, which is still unconfirmed, is the region-free games on the PS3, if Sony can avoid putting region restrictions on games, it'll help their sales in the near future. After all, modding a new console to play other regions' games costs at least $300 more...

When it boils down to price and innovation, Wii stands out among the three, unless you are a rich kid or a die-hard Sony fan, I'm sure you'll pick up Wii first like me to keep yourself entertained while wait for PS3's price to drop to a reasonablely affordable level.

Karasu May 17, 2006 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GELB-2
I actually like the idea of wireless controllers. I got a chance to try out some on an Xbox 360 the other day and it's just nice to be able to take/move the thing anywhere and not have to worry about cords. That's definetly a smart move on the part of next-gen sytems, incorporating that as a default.

As for the rumble/shock feature, Sony would just get sued again if they did use it.


Bah, i'd rather have the rumble feature back. Come on Gelb, even you agree feeling the Engines on your Su-37 in Ace Combat on the controller feels better than a controller that does nothing.

SketchTheArtist May 17, 2006 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SCHNEE-1
Bah, i'd rather have the rumble feature back. Come on Gelb, even you agree feeling the Engines on your Su-37 in Ace Combat on the controller feels better than a controller that does nothing.

They can't have the rumble feature anymore, since they told the company who already registred the patent to go fuck themselves. So, I'm guessing it's definitive. And it sucks, Force-Feedback is now part of the gaming world and not having it takes down a notch the experience of playing.

Bigblah May 17, 2006 03:31 AM

I don't understand the fixation with force-feedback. It's a useless gimmick. The only amusement I get out of the rumble feature is the realization of how pathetically fake and ineffective it is.

Saga May 17, 2006 04:21 AM

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The spokesperson went on to reveal that Sony plans to release a Wi-Fi adaptor for the 20GB PlayStation 3. Consumers will also have the option to purchase a separate adaptor that will allow the use of memory sticks, SD cards and compact flash cards with the machine.

However, there's still no word as to whether the 20GB PlayStation 3 will make it to the UK at all.
Sorry to interrupt but does this mean that were not getting Ps3 WITH 20GB drive ( UK ) at all? :edgartpg:

Thanks in advance

Chiribo May 17, 2006 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by www.eurogamer.net
Despite Sony's efforts to crack down on homebrew coding for the PSP, the company will actively encourage individuals to develop playable content for the PlayStation 3.
That's according to Sony bigwig Izumi Kawanishi - in an interview with Japanese website Impress Watch (translated by GameSetWatch), he stated: "Because we have plans for having Linux on board [the PS3], we also recognise Linux programming activities.
"Other than game studios tied to official developer licenses, we'd like to see various individuals participate in content creation for the PS3."



But don't go expecting any help with your work from Sony. According to Kawanishi, "When a game studio enacts development on a PS3 by entering a license contract, SDK libraries... will be presented, and various technical support given.
"In contrast, when using Linux World on the PS3... support will fall to the lowest level required, and you must solve and work on things by yourselves."
There's no word on how it'll all work, though - will you be able to share programs via memory card, for example, or perhaps upload them via Sony's new online service? Looks like we'll just have to wait and see...

It seems that the PS3 might have some interesting stuff come out for it on the homebrew front :biggrin:

Link to the article

eprox1 May 17, 2006 11:20 AM

I can see it now. People are going to program the first viruses for a videogame console.

Anyways, the only thing I can really think of comming out of the whole PS3 homebrew scene are emulators, which would totally negate the whole Nintendo library on the Wii. Anyone else have any cool ideas?

RacinReaver May 17, 2006 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NERD-2
I don't understand the fixation with force-feedback. It's a useless gimmick. The only amusement I get out of the rumble feature is the realization of how pathetically fake and ineffective it is.

Yeah, for the most part I agree. The only game where it really did feel cool was Ace Combat since you'd feel your airplane rumble as you started to really move. Its use in RPGs and most other genres was pretty much a waste.

SouthJag May 17, 2006 11:46 AM

Force-feedback will end up being one of those things that you take for granted, but when it's gone you'll really notice it and kinda want it back. Ah well.

Anyway, the announcement that a WiFi adapter and an external memory card device are being produced has convinced to splurge only on the $500 PS3 and not the $600 one. Ultimately, both models support some type of high-definition, be it through component cables or HDMI outputs, and considering how long it's likely going to be before I get an HD-capable (and a good one) television, I'm not too worried about HDMI.

Now, here's hoping for some supreme launch titles. But please Sony, hold the mushrooms.

Karasu May 17, 2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
They can't have the rumble feature anymore, since they told the company who already registred the patent to go fuck themselves. So, I'm guessing it's definitive. And it sucks, Force-Feedback is now part of the gaming world and not having it takes down a notch the experience of playing.


Wow that's what happened? Hmmm, lame. Very lame. Like someone said in the above posts, you won't notice it until it's gone. Even if the rumble is used for silly things like RPGs and what not, its still a nice feature. See now i'm getting irritated we can't use dual shock 2 controllers on this machine. Hmm, maybe they'll get a sort of...adapter to those controllers or something, so they can be used on the ps3.

That's what also annoys me with console makers, they consistantly change their controllers so none can work with the newest descendant or the oldest. :/

Spatula May 17, 2006 01:48 PM

I will miss the force feedback controllers. As noted above, games that use the feature "appropriately" such as Ace Combat or a multitude of FPS/action games involving guns and projectile weapons to feel the recoil won't quite have the same effect to me, anymore. They'll still be fun, but it's a thing I've taken for granted that once your hands get used to the virbrating, you don't really notice it anymore unless there's a big ass explosion that shakes the controller more violently than normal. I liked feeling the "recoil" from the gun each time I pulled the trigger. ;_;.

RYU May 17, 2006 03:49 PM

I think Kutaragi drink something when say that

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Kutaragi: PlayStation 3 is "too cheap"

Posted May 17th 2006 2:25PM by James Ransom-Wiley
Filed under: Culture, Sony PlayStation 3, Business
Ken KutaragiIn a disturbing twist, Ken Kutaragi has gone on record stating that the PlayStation 3's $600 price tag is "too cheap." The SCE president has again compared the forthcoming console to a fine dining experience. His argument is that no one calls into question the price differential between some slop at the cafeteria and a meal at an upscale restaurant. From his (deep pockets) point of view, "If you can have an amazing experience, we believe price is not a problem."

Does Sony's braggadocio excite anyone? Because it's turning us off.

After a paltry E3 showing - from a games perspective - it's hard to see the PS3 as anything more than a Trojan horse for sneaking (relatively) cheap Blu-ray devices into consumers' homes. The PlayStation brand is being pimped, and gamers are paying for it, literally. It's ridiculous for Kutaragi to suggest that his company is doing us a favor by launching the PS3 for $600. It's also disrespectful. Who else gets the feeling that Sony is looking down on us?


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