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SouthJag May 15, 2006 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzFlight
Wait a second. Does the PS3 not have spots for PS1/2 style memory cards?

If so, where's their fucking backwards compatibility fitting in here?

It was my impression that, and this was from a long time ago, there were not going to be PS1/2 memory card slots on the system anyway, before they even decided to go two-tier. Since they've no said one would have slots and one wouldn't, I would like to think that Sony included PS1/2 card slots on the $600 model, but I could be wrong.

FatsDomino May 15, 2006 03:41 PM

That or they have some sort of USB attachment for two PSX/PS2 memory card ports and those come with the $600 system and you have to buy them separatly for the $500 system.

Kesubei May 15, 2006 07:36 PM

Damn, reading all these posts on the various configurations of the PS3 is just painful. It shouldn't have to be this complicated, Sony!

Anyway, according to the PDFs at the SCEI site, neither SKU has PS1/PS2 memory slots.

SouthJag May 15, 2006 07:41 PM

Well fuck it then. I'm getting the $500 model. 20 gigs is enough storage capacity for anything I'll use it for, and if it still works in high-def then fantastic.

When I get wireless at my apartment, I'll buy the inevitable wireless adapter for the system then.

Luceid May 15, 2006 08:17 PM

$600 bucks for a console? That's just a major deception from Sony, really.

I'm no Nintendo fanboy, nor Sony, but my inclination is to SOny, yes. then again, the price is just insane; that price is wroth only if this shit makes me some food. I'm pretty sure the library of SOny will improve as time passes, but I'm one of those people that will wait for that console to have a more accessible price.

Wall Feces May 15, 2006 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Technophile
Something is unclear to me about the HDD. Is it detachable? It'd be really convenient for playing your saved games at a friend's place if the HDD can easily snap in and out of it's place.

That would be a nice idea, but I doubt it. The real question is, will you be able to save games onto an SD card or something?

RYU May 15, 2006 09:04 PM

PS3 also won't support PSP connectivity.It is ture?

JazzFlight May 15, 2006 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RYU
PS3 also won't support PSP connectivity.It is ture?

I would assume that the 500 dollar version would not support wireless PSP connectivity. Instead, it would probably require a USB cable.

I don't see why the 600 dollar version wouldn't work with the PSP in both connection forms.

Spike May 15, 2006 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Luceid
$600 bucks for a console? That's just a major deception from Sony, really.


How is that even remotely close to deception?

Kesubei May 15, 2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Luceid
$600 bucks for a console? That's just a major deception from Sony, really.

I'm no Nintendo fanboy, nor Sony, but my inclination is to SOny, yes. then again, the price is just insane; that price is wroth only if this shit makes me some food. I'm pretty sure the library of SOny will improve as time passes, but I'm one of those people that will wait for that console to have a more accessible price.

If it were meant to be just a console, then I would agree that the price doesn't make sense. But it's meant to be an all-around entertainment device. Unlike Nintendo's sytem, which is meant to be for games only (excluding the DVD movie add-on), the PS3 plays Blu-ray and DVD movies, regular audio CD and Super Audio CDs. Dedicated Blu-ray players should be aroudn the price of a PS3, and dedicated SACD players can be in the hundreds as well. From that viewpoint, the PS3 is a deal.

JazzFlight May 15, 2006 10:02 PM

I think this is essentially a "boiling down" argument.

Some people may boil down the recent Iraq War for reasons of "oil."
The same idea applies to Sony.
Some people may boil down the PS3 for reasons of "securing Blu-ray as a media format."

Basically, if Sony didn't put this expensive behemoth of a drive in the PS3, Blu-ray would barely have a defense against HD-DVD. Where would Sony Pictures be then?

We're just unknowingly participating in the DVD format wars at the command of these giant companies. It's just a shame that Blu-ray didn't come out earlier than the PS3 (like DVD players did), because that would have allowed the console to debut at a much lower price.

Protom@nNeo May 15, 2006 11:54 PM

This is is what's unfortunate about Sony being such a large company. By having too many other interests(divisions) the computer entertainment division has to shoe horn in a blue ray player to help out another branch. Just like their electronics division missed the Mp3 player band wagon because their music division was to worried about piracy.

Technophile May 16, 2006 01:32 AM

I wonder what'll happen to PS3's price if HD-DVD comes out on top and blue-ray goes down the path of Sony's mini-disks and UMD movies...

Cetra May 16, 2006 01:38 AM

I don't know about you guys, but I think having 40 GB of storage space in console that outputs in high definition happens to be a good idea. A few developers have already expressed their displeasure with working with the XBox 360 and it's standard DVD-9 discs. Most of the DOA4 endings were cut short because the developers didn't want you to have to put a new disc in to watch various endings for each character.

I think we already went over this, but using FMV is still cheaper and easier than using your ingame engine even if the engine can make things look as good as the FMV. I think most developers will be VERY appreciative of the 40 GB of storage space they have to work with.

Of course the Wii is a different matter as it will not support high definition output so DVD-9 is sufficient for that console.

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Originally Posted by Technophile
I wonder what'll happen to PS3's price if HD-DVD comes out on top and blue-ray goes down the path of Sony's mini-disks and UMD movies...

Why do people continue to make this comparison like Blu-Ray is a Sony propitiatory format. I hope you realize Sony doesn't own Blu-Ray. They are just one of the 12 major companies that helped develop the technology and the standards.

Technophile May 16, 2006 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cetra


Why do people continue to make this comparison like Blu-Ray is a Sony propitiatory format. I hope you realize Sony doesn't own Blu-Ray. They are just one of the 12 major companies that helped develop the technology and the standards.

They were the first two examples that came to mind. Heck you can compare them to Beta tapes if it'd make you feel better. (That wasn't Sony's was it?). Anyway, it doesn't matter. The point is, it'd be interesting to see what happens to the PS3 and how Sony would market it, if Blue-ray ends up not being the standard.

Protom@nNeo May 16, 2006 12:30 PM

...And the trouble just keeps on mounting,
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...M0&refer=japan

Sony really seems to be about to bungle this launch. I'm wondering if it wouldn't be better just to delay until spring "07" just to come strong. It doesn't take much to turn the industry against you (see N64) and Sony seems to be doing just that.

Stealth May 16, 2006 12:41 PM

Yeah, because everyone wants to play The Sopranos. GOTY.

Protom@nNeo May 16, 2006 12:43 PM

heh heh, touche!

Rock May 16, 2006 01:09 PM

It's basically Sony saying "we don't want your crap on PS3". And I reckon this is a good thing, considering THQ's latest games.

Fafner May 16, 2006 02:16 PM

PS3's will sell like hotcakes initially, regardless of price. But what about afterwards? Even after a $100 price-drop, the PS3(the good version) will still be expensive.

eprox1 May 16, 2006 06:27 PM

I'd guess they would still most likely still sell like hot cakes. I mean, if it was already initially selling good, then a price drop could only boost sales, right?

Anyways, I don't understand why people aren't talking more about the whole Linux / programming thing. Am I the only one who thinks the idea of playing the entire library of almost all the old school consoles via emulators on the PS3 incredibly awesome? Hell, what if they somehow managed to implement online play with that shit...that would make the PS3 three times cooler than it already seems to be.

SketchTheArtist May 16, 2006 07:27 PM

Is it me, or are Japanese players fuckin' biased as hell?! Take a look at their Top 10 for the Most Impressive stuff at E3!

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Famitsu published the Top 10 E3 news Japanese players are most interested:

1. Impression and presentation of PlayStation 3 Controller
2. Square Enix's announcement of Final Fantasy XIII
3. Price and Launch date of PlayStation 3
4. Announcement of Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Snake as a new character
5. PlayStation 3 menu and user interface
6. Details of the PlayStation 3 Network Platform
7. Images of PlayStation 3 games
8. Three versions of Final Fantasy XIII
9. Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen & The Tower of Mirrors for Wii
10. Images of Square Enix games
What the hell? I know it's nothing groundbreaking but I didn't know they were that blinded.

eprox1 May 16, 2006 07:35 PM

This might be a dumb question, but how much of the entire gaming market does Japan make? I mean, are there more profits in games there as opposed to here?

SketchTheArtist May 16, 2006 07:43 PM

1. Impression and presentation of PlayStation 3 Controller

This is so fuckin' funny, it's sad.

Tails May 16, 2006 08:10 PM

Dunno if this has been posted as another article or not, but it's dated today soo~

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Speaking to GamesIndustry.biz, Sony has dismissed rumours that the 20GB PS3 will not be compatible with wireless controllers, and that consumers will not have the option to upgrade the hard drive.

"Both queries to my knowledge are completely false," a spokesperson told GI.biz.

"Both configurations will support bluetooth PS3 controllers. The only non-upgradeable feature of the 20GB configuration will be the HDMI output."

This confirms comments made by Sony's Phil Harrison in a recent interview with GI.biz, where he stated: "You can upgrade to whatever size of drive you like. You can put in any drive that you like - it is a computer, after all."

The spokesperson went on to reveal that Sony plans to release a Wi-Fi adaptor for the 20GB PlayStation 3. Consumers will also have the option to purchase a separate adaptor that will allow the use of memory sticks, SD cards and compact flash cards with the machine.

However, there's still no word as to whether the 20GB PlayStation 3 will make it to the UK at all.
Link.

Sounds good to me.


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