Wel, I for one don't care about the PS3's pricetag. Sure, I agree that is is a little steep for casual gamers, but let's look at it from Sony's point of view. PlayStation is not their only thing they want to bring to the market, they are also a company who produce other electronic stuff and Blu-Ray happens to be one major thing for them right now. It's only natural they would want to include it in the PS3 so they can reach a lot of consumers right from the get go.

Also, when Microsoft rolls out it's HD-DVD add-on, it would be about $200. When buying a 360 with identical features as PS3 would yield about the same pricepoint. But MS isn't a manufactor of other hardware, they come from the software side so they can afford to bring an add-on because they don't have to rely on HD-DVD. The difference is that Sony isn't promoting the PS3 as just a gaming console like MS tries to position itself right now. They claim PS3 is more than that. Wether you agree with that is another thing because it depends on wether you are just a gamer or are someone who also loves seeing movies at home in the best possible manner.

One other thing: why is it that people slash at Sony for releasing a $500-$600 product with a lot of features, when they are happily buying their iPods for $300 a piece? A little gimmick with only the ability to play music?

Don't forget video and pictures. But I agree, iPod is small potatoes next to what you get with PS3. 2 iPods = PS3! I'd happily make that trade. Besides, PS3 is almost nothing compared to the cost of an up to date home entertainment system.

According to Son's Phil Harrison, there's no difference between the to models. Interesting:

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Slightly offtopic but where the fuck is DMC4 on PS3???

OF COURSE YOU WOULD, YOU'RE A FILTHY FUCKING RICH SCE STUDIOS PRESIDENT

The damn thing is a beast of a machine, but €599 makes me weep so badly. Knowing the price won't drop here for a looong time doubly so.

I would buy it, but first I simply need to rob from many old granma's and sell my earthly belongings only to find out I need those said belongings to make the damn console work >=|

Any person would, provided they have an extra $600 USD just lying on their coffee table come happy day.

Shit, that convinced me. :edgartpg:

So is he saying that the $500 model will have Wifi?

Doesn't matter though, I'll still get the $600 model.

Some people are acting like you need spare 600 dollar change to buy it, just fucking work for it and dont be lazy. If you have a job and only have enough for bills I understand but for other people just get off your ass and get a job it's not that hard especially with how much time you left. This should be easiest for the younger people who dont have bills and still live at home.

Well, most of the people, including myself, think that shelling 600$ hard-earned bucks for a system that hasn't really shown it's potential is a bit too much.

I think its showed a pretty good amount of potential at E3 already specially with it being playable and all the gameplay footages released.

What gameplay footage? Naughty Dogs' Action/Adventure title and what else was showed that looked like 'gameplay' footage?

Heavenly Sword and PS3 Sonic were definitely playable. There's even a youtube video of the PS3 Sonic freezing completely.

Why not? It's about perceived value. If the consumer is willing to pay $300 for an MP3 player, which costs twice as much as the next MP3 player which has the same capabilities, why wouldn't a game system with this generations best graphics, most features and (so far) highest volume of AAA (in terms of production value) games not sell for twice as much as say the Wii? It's a completely valid comparison to show the mindset of the consumer. The iPod completely dominates their market even with its much higher cost of alternatives because people believe it is worth the extra cost. Why can't the PS3 enjoy the same situation?

LOL!! That's pretty funny, but it happens when it's not a finished game or in this case a finished hardware.

Maybe my post seems like I'm only comparing the devices in monatary value, but the idea was like Cetra said. An iPod is, as said, only an mp3-player. Only recently is it possible to play movies and watch pictures on it. Still, I find $300 for an electronic product that can only do those things damn expensive. Hell, a PSP is comparitavly priced and you can even play games on it (although it doesn't have a harddisk so it's a tradeoff). Yes it is portable but like Cetra said: there are a lot of other players that are cheaper and offer the same functionality, allthought I agree technically iPod is one of the best on the market.

I think the best thing I can say is this: I find $600 for a PS3 a lot more value for my money than $300 for an iPod.

Honestly, this is obviously JUST me or something, but the $200 difference between the 360 and the PS3 is like 2 1/2 days of work. Maybe 3. If you're lazy. If you're so strapped for cash that you really CANNOT afford that extra couple days of work for something that will provide you with two high tech items (new game console / BlueRay player), then maybe you shouldn't be spending your money on games in the first place.

Dare I say that in the long run, today $200 isn't really a lot of money? I mean, this shit dosen't go away in a month. It'll stick around for a while. You'll play it. You'll get your moneys worth. I know that I will anyways...

Are all of you people actually planning on buying a PS3 at launch? Especially after the problems that Sony's supposedly had with their first generation products?

Or are you just really arguing for the sake of arguing. :(

I do not plan on buying any launch system ever again. I learned my lesson the hard way with the PS2 launch. Launch systems will always be somewhat buggy and are more likely to break faster, plus there's the hastle of actually obtaining one at launch which is just a crazy fiasco durring the holiday season. I plan on waiting until MGS4 comes out to get one. Plus Sony could pull a Microsoft and redo the core chip in later models.

I'll get the $499 version if it has Wifi and PS2 memory card slots. I could care less about HD outputs at the moment.

I am getting a Wii at launch, not PS3. But that's mostly because of the launch lineup. As soon as MGS4 or FF13 hits the market, I'll get a PS3 at the $600 price point if I have to.

You need a $700 model for that.

By the way, any big media sites brought up the fact that Sony said they will not pull a Microsoft by releasing the console in 2 packs and now they are doing JUST THAT?

To avoid disaster, i'll wait and buy the PS3 a few months after it's release.
I watched the whole conference yesterday and i'm pretty impressed. i think this system can revolutionize gaming and the future of home entertainment. a system that can hold and play music, send videos, download and play games all for either $499 or $599... where do i sign up?