OH LOOK AT ME! I'VE HAD SEX, SO THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES ME RIGHT! Come back and try and talk to me when you drop the high and mighty attitude. Maybe then, I'll bother with that you have to ramble on about.

No, I said with considerably more restraint and tact that either you agree that your friends' methods exist or that they were all emotionally manipulated like you kept suggesting. Why do you try to rewrite history when the entire thread is readily available to viewing? We can all read the first page, sir.

It is so to laugh.

lurker-

When did I deny that their methods don't exist? I just stated my issues with it. Meaning what about them doesn't work for me.

Devo-

No, all penises are not the same. However a different penis is a lot more familiar than a vagina.


Honestly people, do I have to spell out everything here?

Virgin counts for relationships too. You profess that you've never had sex, never been in a relationship, but you've got the pope's authority on the topic because your friends bragged about doing it. And since your authority contradicts the only second-hand reports you have, what do you base it on? Livejournals?

You've got gumption, I'll give you that.

From then on to the point you submit that it's entirely possible that it can happen. No, you did not admit that the entire time, I was there and I was paying attention. Your continual mischaracterization of the conversation proves you weren't, which doesn't offend me any but doesn't do anything positive for your reputation.

Oh ok. You guys not interpreting what I have to say correctly, and me having to constantly repeat myself and explain every nit-picky detail, is me switching sides. =/

No I'm really not all that curious. My point is, despite all the different things that different men fancy, there's still some basic common denomenator between all male genitalia, that is lost when you compare one with a vag.

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Lurker. Questiong and wondering about something, does not = denying.

Look, I think the real question everyone here has is, where do you get off making value judgements on things you have no practical experience with? You cherrypick and use hella loaded words, for what reason? How do you benefit by looking down on situations that you just invented?

I'm gonna ignore the "invent" comment.

I'm not really sure what exactly it was that I said that makes it seem like I look down upon people who are more casual when it comes to sex. But I honestly don't. All I've done (or at least attempted to do so) was take their experience, and just apply them to me and my values in a "what if" sort of mentality, and list my issues with them. My issues, when they're applied to me. I really don't think I need to actually have sex in order to do this. I'm very happy for my friends if it's working for them. But just because it does so for them, it doesn't mean that it will for me as well.
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Devo--

No matter how different men are, there is some common denomenator, no matter how small it is. Even if it amounts to shoving a penis in a vag, generally feels good, while attempting to shove one up a man's front hole (pee-hole), for most males, does not.

You were making it seem like two penises can be just as different as a penis and a vagina. While it's a possible scenario, I don't think it's the usual case. Even if two men have different fetishes, chances are, they're both going to enjoy, say, the sensation of having their dong stroked.

The first sin: Ignorance.

The second sin: Insincerity.

The third sin: Ego.

The fourth sin: Lust.

The fifth sin: Lack of respect.

The final sin: Lack of forsight.

The extra sin is sodomy, as in what you like (because you hate girls now) and what we like to do to you. Come, now. Become sodomy.

I was referring here to someone who has sex in hopes of having it start a relationship. Not my friends or people who have casual sex for recreation. For all I know, my friends' and their partners had consesually casual sex at first.


Again. Referring to people who have sex because they are anticipating a relationship to follow up. Why do you keep taking everything I say, as if I'm talking about my friends' cases in particular? I broght them up to make a point that I know people who started out their relationship with sex first. That's all. They're not the only defining, living, examples.

So now I'm egostistical because I think something's risky?


Humor me and connect the dots here.



Stating someone's relationship's circumstances is now disrispectful?





Care to elaborate?

Oh the agony. :rolleyes:

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I never disagreed with this. While what you say is true, there's still a common denominator. Which means a little less figuering out what you need to do, and trial and error.

Look at my edited post above.

Will you ever really, really know what having multiple orgasms feels like? Or what it'd be like to have a penis peneterated inside you and against a clitoris? No, just like any girl you're with won't really know what it's like to insert a protruding yet sensetive part of your body inside a hole. On a very petty level, it's still a sense of knowing what it's like for your partner, that's missing.

He seems to approach sex as one would approach Ikea shelf assembly instructions:

"Insert Tab A into Slot B, allowing for room to manipulate the base."


Just wait until he discovers kink!

"Using a 10" pilfer grommet, rotate the hex nut counterclockwise until the chub-ended adapter is parallel to the matrix receptor. Apply the needed industrial lubricant and gently wrap the two-pronged oscillation cable around the base until the two ends firmly lock into place."

My point is that knowing what it feels like to have your partner's similar equipment techincally work, is some sort of a head start. No matter how miniscule it is.

And Crashlandon, "He" ? I am present in this thread, y'know.

Uh, OK. What's your point? The average person isn't a dipshit, so, it's still a small head start.


I'm just stating one little perk that comes with gay sex. Don't get all defensive again, I'm sure there are lots of perks to hetero-sex that don't apply to gay sex.