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Matt Dec 8, 2006 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dee
Must agree to that scene. I had emotions filling, no tears, up until that part. Even throughout
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Izzi's death
I was trying really hard not to.

My point of view can be taken a few ways.

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One is that the three time periods are reality, Tom is reincarnated (as seen by his numerous added on tattoos in the future), and in every life he fails to save his wife or find the tree. He must learn to accept, and when he does, the cycle seemingly stops and he changes the "future". For instance, the scene when Izzi asks him repeatedly to come walk with her in the snow. In the last scene, he finally does. Are there two parallel universes? Another instance, in the future, he sees a visionary of her and he finally "let's go" and dies in grace (by dissolving).

Another I see is similar to kat's logic. It's the present, and the past is made up by Izzi. Only the present is real. The future, I also think is moreso grounded in reality (by the tattoos). The tree is a symbol of Izzi. But what I don't get is why he eats the bark.


I've got to get my hands on the soundtrack now. I really enjoyed the movie. A lot of people who came to see it with me didn't enjoy it as much and didn't even want to bother to talk about it. I'm just glad I went to see it when I could. I think this is Hugh Jackman's best work.

As far as the OST goes, look a few posts up. Enceph links it.

As far as your ideas go...
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The past is fictional. It always has been, and there's no denying it once you see that it was Izzi's book all along.

The "future Tom's" tattoos I viewed as signifying his age. It reminded me of those age rings that trees have, and I'm thinking that the designs around them were significant in other ways.

If you want to view that reality as having really happened, then there's the possiblity that he's been hanging on to her death for the 600 or whatever years that it's been. He keeps replaying the moments back in his mind now that he and Izzi are headed towards Xibalba. Like I mentioned a few posts back, the tree could be the one that Tom planted in Izzi's grave using a seed from the Tree of Life. That seed then created a second tree, and Tom's been using it to keep on living until he can take her to the nebula to be reborn like in the Mayan mythology.

Otherwise you can view it all as a metaphor and their trip to Xibalba to be reborn was just Tom's being coming to terms with the death. Maybe he died then as well; maybe only in death could he be reborn and start a new life.

The final moments with the conquistador, where Future Tom is seen floating in that pose (what's it called?) was either him finishing the book in the present, with his soul's determination represented by Future Tom; or him finally finishing the book hundreds of years after Izzi's death.


One thing that took me by surprise and I forgot to mention before:
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The part where the conquistador drank the sap and started to sprout leaves. Did anyone else see that coming?

I've been trying to figure out if it meant something besides the obvious reference to the tour guide's father becoming a tree after dying.

Andrew Evenstar Dec 14, 2006 01:08 PM

I saw this movie last night. I loved it, the score, the visuals, story, everything. I just loved the feel to this movie. I want to see it again, but it's not going to play anymore in my area.

This topic, I just clicked on it because there was a lot of posts, I had never heard of this movie before. So I thank you all for motivating me to see it.

*AkirA* Dec 14, 2006 03:18 PM

Its a shame its out of theatres so quickly. I wanted to go again with a friend, but it only had two showings left, and we had missed both of them.


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