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SketchTheArtist Jun 23, 2006 04:12 PM

Well, based on the Theatrical Trailer, it seems the beginning of the movie will be in B&W and the fire that's burning in the QUICK STOP will be in color and then it'll cut to Color.

Dark Nation Jun 23, 2006 11:46 PM

Oooh, nice approach. I wanna see it more now, even just for that part :p

joshi Jun 24, 2006 10:50 AM

Kevin will be appearing at Criminal Records this Thursday. I'm definitely going to see him and I'll post pictures when I get back.

Vestin Jun 25, 2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Nation
Alright, that's perfectly fine. It was just you were all like "zomg no good sequels EVER. final judgement 4 eternity on this topic!". Then everyone was like
"O RLY?" and you were all "YA RLY" and then they were like "EXAMPLES!"
and you were "DO NOT WANT".

Hmm. Okay. If that's what you read, that's cool. :1zhelp:

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 26, 2006 08:10 AM

Much like Terminator 3 - do we really need this movie, especially so late in the game? For a director so many people think is witty and intelligent, a sequel to a long-ago movie shows a lack of steam on his part.

acid Jun 26, 2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Much like Terminator 3 - do we really need this movie, especially so late in the game? For a director so many people think is witty and intelligent, a sequel to a long-ago movie shows a lack of steam on his part.

Do we need it? No, not at all.

Smith has been toying with the idea of a Clerks sequel for quite some time (he said it would be his next film after Dogma [1999], so at bare minimum 7 years). After Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, he said he was done with the Jersey movies. That was it.

Since then he made a promise to Jason Mewes that if he got, and kept, himself clean he could play Jay one more time. He also remembered why he loved the characters so much when he was working on the Clerks 10th Anniversay disc.

He doesn't have to make this movie at all. It'll be a moderate success, probably make back it's costs but not a whole lot more. It's hardly going to be the box office smash of the summer.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 26, 2006 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by acid
He doesn't have to make this movie at all. It'll be a moderate success, probably make back it's costs but not a whole lot more. It's hardly going to be the box office smash of the summer.

I disagree. The internet has bolstered what was a rather mildly entertaining movie into some fucking monolith of our generation because it's full of goddamned pop culture references.

Look at the worthless morons who like Boondock Saints? These two movies are equally painful - yet people on the internet love them and support them enough to give them repeat DVD business.

I fear that you are wrong in the worst way possible.

BucPride Jun 26, 2006 11:22 PM

Clerks wasn't my favorite movie from Kevin Smith, but I liked it well enough. I heard about this a few months back and I'm looking forward to this. I'll go see it during the week though to avoid all those annoying teenagers.

Yeah, this one will probably make some considerable dollars. I got dragged to Scary Movie 4 opening night (rather than go hang out at my friends house, we decided to go see a late showing of scary movie 4 on a Friday night), and they played the trailer for Clerks 2 -- you'd have thought everyone in the theater had one collective orgasm with all the "yes" and "woo" comments all at once. Since Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, it looks like everyone decided Kevin Smith is awesome (at least from what I've seen). I agree with LeHah here, this money is going to make some significant money.

Wall Feces Jun 27, 2006 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Look at the worthless morons who like Boondock Saints? These two movies are equally painful - yet people on the internet love them and support them enough to give them repeat DVD business.

Be fair, the dumbfucks who like the Boondock Saints have no taste in film. I haven't met anyone around here who likes both of those flicks, and usually the ones who like Clerks are the more intelligent ones. Boondock Saints is what I like to call "the stupid person's Pulp Fiction" since it is a blatent cash-in on Pulp's success, and is easy to follow if you're one of those people who "don't get" Pulp Fiction.

I think Clerks is a good movie because I think it's bloody hilarious and I can connect with it because I've been working at a supermarket for 6 years. Plus, the success story behind it is pretty awesome. Guy risks it all on a gamble like Clerks and comes out successful as fuck? That's uplifting for an aspiring filmmaker like myself. Better than fuckholes like Michael Bay who probably got their start by simply knowing the right people.

I have to agree that the hype it gets from the countless IMDBlowhards is pretty overwhelming and has severely inflated Smith's ego... But eh, if anyone deserves it, it's him.

bioeng Jun 27, 2006 03:58 PM

I'm looking forward to this film regardless of the facts: it is no longer in black 'n white (ridding itself of its avant garde status), Smith over-milking the Clerks franchise, Rosario Dawson sticking out like a sore thumb.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 27, 2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bioeng
I'm looking forward to this film regardless of the facts: it is no longer in black 'n white (ridding itself of its avant garde status), Smith over-milking the Clerks franchise, Rosario Dawson sticking out like a sore thumb.

I don't think you have any understanding of what "avant garde" means

bioeng Jun 27, 2006 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
I don't think you have any understanding of what "avant garde" means

Honestly, I don't. I had a rule of thumb that whatever film was purposely done in black and white and had no fixed intentions was avant garde. It worked for 'Pi' anyhow.

SketchTheArtist Jun 30, 2006 05:06 PM

I just stumbled upon this brand-new RED BAND trailer for Clerks 2!

RED BAND means that it's rated NC-17 for 'bad words' that could corrode your soul!

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2687411?htv=12

Enjoy!

Rockgamer Jun 30, 2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
RED BAND means that it's rated NC-17 for 'bad words' that could corrode your soul!

Actually, red band just means that the trailer can only be shown with R rated movies, but I assume you just said that stuff as a joke. I mean, it even says at the beginning that the movie is rated R.

Anyway, this movie looks hilarious. This may be one of the few movies I go to see at the movies this year. Whether I see it at the movies or wait for the DVD though, I'm seeing this movie!

SketchTheArtist Jun 30, 2006 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RockgamerXIII
Actually, red band just means that the trailer can only be shown with R rated movies, but I assume you just said that stuff as a joke. I mean, it even says at the beginning that the movie is rated R.

Yeah, that was the 'intelligent' version. I was rooting for the 'dummy' version. :)

Rockgamer Jul 21, 2006 10:56 PM

So has anyone went to go see this movie yet? I went to go see it earlier today, and I can confirm that it is awesome!

So is it better than the first one? It's really hard to tell (for me, anyway), because while it manages to retain a lot of the same things that made the first movie great, it also does a lot of things differently enough to make you know that this is a different type of movie. I think the fact that this movie had a little more of an actual plot (leading up to an excellent climax and ending) made me like it a little more, though.

But for the pure laugh factor, I would say that they are about equal. I definitely give up to Randall, who was once again my favorite character in the movie, as I found him to be the funniest. It seems like no matter who he was talking to, he managed to have a different type of relationship with that character than he had with all the other characters in the film, which led to some really funny stuff (especially with Elias).

Overall though, all the characters and dialogue were great, and the movie as a whole was great as well. If you liked the first one, you'll definitely like this one as well, though how much so compared to the first one will all be your own personal preference.

Wojo Jul 21, 2006 11:00 PM

I saw it tonight as well I can also confirm that it was hilarious. Not as good as the first but man it's damn close. Easily my second favorite Kevin Smith Film.

Spoiler:
I laughed so hard at those Anne Frank references and when the guy jumped over the table as he was being hit by a deck of cards

Wall Feces Jul 21, 2006 11:03 PM

Stolen from my very own journal -

Wow, this film blew me away. I wasn't expecting it to be as funny as it was, and it delivered that in spades. I wasn't expecting it to be touching either, and it delivered that even more. I almost cried it was so good.

I don't have the energy to write an in-depth review, so I'll just give a handy bulleted list of what worked in the film.

- Funny as SHIT.
- Felt just like the original did. Didn't feel like a glossed over Hollywood movie.
- Felt like a logical continuation of the story of Dante and Randal.
- Great characters
- Very emotional story overall.
- Amazing conclusion.
- Jay and Silent Bob were great as usual.

I was really blown away by the ending of the film. Like Clerks before it, Clerks II is a film that I really connected with on many levels. The ending...

Spoiler:
With the help of Jay and Silent Bob, they decide to buy and re-open the Quick Stop. My only complaint is that it felt kind of forced the way Randal said it in the jail and then BOOM they go and do it, but it worked overall.



That would be my only complaint. Other than that, this film is fucking perfect. I was very impressed by it. Go see it NOW!

9/10

JazzFlight Jul 21, 2006 11:08 PM

Yeah, this movie was great.

Definately on par with the first film, but I still have to give the animated series the nod as being the funniest (plus it cuts out all the "gross-for-gross sake" elements).

The segues back and forth between "comedy scene" and "romantic drama" were a bit clunky. Everytime we went back to Dante and Rosario Dawson, I thought to myself, "Booooooring." I mean, sure it paid off at the end to have that plot & character build-up, but it could have been blended together with the fart and dick jokes better instead of feeling like another film entirely.

Spoiler:
I must say, Randal came into his own in this film. They finally gave this guy a heart, instead of being a cardboard cut-out prankster. I can definately sympathize with the pain of having to say goodbye to friends who you've been working with for a while (just recently two of my own best friends/co-workers got different jobs).

That being said, I totally got teary when he gave his best friend line.


While I feel that it wasn't as funny or cool (as in "underground cult film") as Clerks 1, it definately tied up the story and fleshed out the characters. Plus, Elias was absolutely hilarious. I was hoping for more lines from him.

Rockgamer Jul 21, 2006 11:21 PM

And I also wanted to ask, did anyone here about this situation with Joel Siegel? Man, this was totally stupid, and I completely agree with everything Kevin says about it. I can't believe this guy would be such an asshole about the situation.

Also make sure to listen to the mp3 at the end of the entry, as it's pretty fucking hilarious.

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Jul 22, 2006 11:50 PM

Jeff Anderson heard about this, and said he'd love to put something like "'This is the first movie I've walked out of in thirty years!' - Joel Siegel" on the movie poster. :)

Also, I was surprised to find a couple with a kid about 5 or 6 years old in the theater when I walked in. Needless to say, they left before the ending. Still, even though I felt it relied on gross-out antics a bit much, the sappy romance parts felt forced, and there wasn't enough Dante and Randal banter, I still absolutely loved this movie. Second only to the original Clerks in my list of Kevin Smith films. Thank god he came back with this after Jersey Girl.

BucPride Jul 24, 2006 03:46 AM

I caught a showing of this one on Sunday. Though the movie tried to be more dramatic and story-driven at times, it kept its pace well comedy-wise.

Spoiler:
The scene with Elias talking to Randle about his girlfriend almost had me in tears. When Elias mentions the vagina troll and it cuts back to Randles face, I don't think I laughed as hard, expect when Jay was nude with his dick tucked between his legs. Oh, and the Porch Monkey 4 Life was golden as well.


All in all, I thought it was well worth the price of admission, and I'd like to see it again sometime before it leaves theatres.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 24, 2006 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Capo
Jeff Anderson heard about this, and said he'd love to put something like "'This is the first movie I've walked out of in thirty years!' - Joel Siegel" on the movie poster.

It's been done. When Siskel and Ebert gave Lost Highway two thumbs down, David Lynch put out a poster with their reviews with a big, yellow headline TWO MORE REASONS TO SEE LOST HIGHWAY.

Andrew Evenstar Jul 24, 2006 01:32 PM

OMFG, this movie was the funniest movie I've seen in SO DAMN long go see it now.


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