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Gechmir Sep 1, 2008 11:45 PM

Kudos, Sass =D I've never heard of this, but it's very feasible. As it mentions by usage of "keyhole", there is a sweet-spot that needs to be hit in order for the body to not get brushed aside by our Van Allen belts. It's akin to hitting a ramp in order to make a jump; if you're off, you'll miss or even screw up your trajectory. The drawback is that, given our constraints on sizes we could make these tractor shuttles or bodies, it'd need to be laid well in advance (the "shove" isn't too huge). If those fail, I think that directly plowing in to the asteroid body would be the follow-up; crude, inaccurate, but far more fast in its results.

Vemp Sep 2, 2008 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gechmir (Post 640510)
Look at it this way: the only thing I can think of that'd change our rotational direction would be something VERY BIG and VERY HEAVY hitting the planet. Something so big that nothing would survive :V

Elixir falling off his chair.

Nehmi Sep 2, 2008 02:15 AM

The whole premise of the article is that we don't know how many NEOs are out there.

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Experts admit they don't yet know how many so-called Near-Earth Objects (NEOs) orbit close enough to pose a threat.
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"The good news is we have conducted the 'Spaceguard' survey, which has detected most of these very large objects," he said.

"We think we've detected all the NEOs big enough to cause a mass extinction and pretty much eliminated that risk."

Meanwhile smaller objects that can cause significant destruction are currently flying under the radar.
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"The main risk lies with those objects that we have not even found yet," the Space Science Institute's Harris said. "So the most important thing is to continue [surveillance]."
So to say there's "No Way", it could happen is quite wrong. In fact, it is the most likely thing to happen (that we won't see it coming), as any objects discovered and deemed dangerous would be dealt with. Also, "keyholes" only help us when we know about an asteroid (or comet) and can determine what the specific path it needs to take to be on a collision course.

Of course there's always the threat of some random comet coming out of nowhere that we've never seen before; they have been known to have highly eccentric orbits. Something of that nature could have a 100,000 (or however long outside of human history) year orbit and we'd have absolutely no record of them.

The unmovable stubborn Sep 2, 2008 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Alterminded (Post 642736)
We would know about now thanks to the Hubble Space Telescope or any outer space observatorial devices of such an object coming to hit the planet.

Do you have any idea what an impossibly small fraction of space we have under consistent observation? Do you have even the slightest idea? The most detailed and thorough image we have from Hubble is the Deep Field. The Hubble Deep Field is thought to represent roughly one thirteen-millionth of the sky. The observe the entire sky at that level of detail would, with current technology, take over a million years.

Space telescopes are an important and useful development, but omniscient they ain't.

Alterminded Sep 2, 2008 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 642812)
Do you have any idea what an impossibly small fraction of space we have under consistent observation? Do you have even the slightest idea? The most detailed and thorough image we have from Hubble is the Deep Field. The Hubble Deep Field is thought to represent roughly one thirteen-millionth of the sky. The observe the entire sky at that level of detail would, with current technology, take over a million years.

Space telescopes are an important and useful development, but omniscient they ain't.

So what you're basically saying is "We won't see it until its right in front of our noses, and then its too late." right? Because what I am implying is we would have ample time to prepare for such an object converging on our planet's orbital trajectory and ample time to do something about it. Not like a NEO is going to just appear out of nowhere and we will just have to brace for impact...

(in before any matrix jokes)

RacinReaver Sep 2, 2008 03:22 AM

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The observe the entire sky at that level of detail would, with current technology, take over a million years.
The deep field image is also pretty much all galaxies, and I don't think it's the way we'd go about looking for asteroids. It would be like trying to find an elephant on the savanna using a microscope.

The unmovable stubborn Sep 2, 2008 03:38 AM

I'm only using it as an example of how silly it is to assume that we'll automatically see any significant objects just because oh gee we got some telescopes. I'm not falling into Nehmi's predictable repent-the-end-is-near attitudes, but saying the issue is like TOTALLY TAKEN CARE OF, NO WORRIES is a little naive. Also naive is the notion that a collision-course object would automatically be dealt with, should it be observed. We'll just send the Space Marines, yeah?

RacinReaver Sep 2, 2008 03:41 AM

We might require more Vespene Gas to do that.

Alterminded Sep 2, 2008 03:52 AM

But what about the mobile suits?!


Also see Sass' post for more info about changing trajectories and whatnot. It seems possible and likely. Also I am for sending mass amounts of weaponry into space to divert such crisis (Nuclear Missles that can reach outer orbital levels and collide with NEOS and whatnot). Hell, lets equip the International Space Station with reverse low-orbital Ion Cannons at this point and we are set!

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 2, 2008 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 642824)
We'll just send the Space Marines, yeah?

http://mobileinfantry.free.fr/pics/klendathu-system.jpg
KLENDATHU SOURCE OF THE BUG METEOR ATTACKS ORBITS A TWIN STAR SYSTEM.

http://mobileinfantry.free.fr/pics/bug-meteor.jpg
THE BUGS SEND ANOTHER METEOR OUR WAY. BUT THIS TIME WE'RE READY.

http://mobileinfantry.free.fr/pics/w...-know-more.jpg
PLANETARY DEFENSES ARE BETTER THAN EVER.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Sep 2, 2008 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 642824)
We'll just send the Space Marines, yeah?

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_D0mpNmRLs40/SA...g/IMG_3268.jpg

Janus X Sep 2, 2008 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 642670)
No, but it just might get Janus X to stop posting here

keep hoping :p

Nehmi posted an interesting link. I wonder how big is that comet that's coming soon...

Alterminded Sep 2, 2008 03:06 PM

Damnit Lehah, I was thinking about posting a Starship troopers reference, but I doubted its validity on being funny.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 7, 2008 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Janus X (Post 642924)
keep hoping

I am - and I'm not the only one. Maybe that should give you an inkling of your posts instead of some glib smiley reply.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Sep 9, 2008 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Janus X (Post 642924)
keep hoping :p

Let's see what I can do about this.

Jessie1311 Sep 9, 2008 06:35 PM

Well all in all, I hope that damn thing they're setting off tomorrow doesn't blow us up, and the asteriod they say will make a "fly by" won't hit, I didn't pop out my kids for nothing!
I plan on being around well passed 2012 and I plan on my neighbors and city to stick around until I'm long gone too.. I see the giant volcano erupting before any of these other crazy ideas take place...

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 9, 2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessie1311 (Post 644680)
I hope that damn thing they're setting off tomorrow doesn't blow us up

You obviously don't know what CERN collider does.

Gechmir Sep 9, 2008 07:43 PM

I doubt she even knows what a collider is :(

FatsDomino Sep 9, 2008 09:08 PM

Its'a large hadron colander. You use it to'a drain's your'a pasta for your'a large'a spaghetti dinner. Gonna be'a wonderful Wednesday! [/pizzapie]

Misogynyst Gynecologist Sep 10, 2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pew pew pew (Post 644635)
Let's see what I can do about this.

Holy shit. Forget Jesus and his posse, I'm gonna start praying to this pew pew pew guy. Nigga gets shit DONE.

Bradylama Sep 10, 2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gechmir (Post 644699)
I doubt she even knows what a collider is :(

Collider? But I only just met her.

Gechmir Sep 10, 2008 08:55 PM

Then explain the hardon, you prude :mad:

AtomicDuck Sep 14, 2008 01:47 PM

My end of the world theory is the Earthquack. One day ducks will rise up an control the world, and we as humans will be forced to live in ponds and lakes the rest of our lives.
It will be a rather nice existence, to be honest. We get to chill out and let little ducklings feed us bread, our only concern will be when some jackass ducks shoot at us as we try to run south for the winter.

But honestly, I'm going with the super volcano theory even though it might only mean North America is doomed for certain. Australia will probably just sit there at the complete opposite end of the world laughing at us or something.

aarathy Sep 19, 2008 12:29 AM

I did not agree with this prediction. I know this date comes from the Mayan calendar, which many believe says that the end of time is 2012. This is an incorrect interpretation of the Mayan perception of time. It is the end of an age in 2012. The Mayans had a 52 year cycle, much like we have a 100 year cycle. The date of 2012 is the end of one age, and the beginning of another.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Sep 19, 2008 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by aarathy (Post 646364)
I did not agree with this prediction. I know this date comes from the Mayan calendar, which many believe says that the end of time is 2012. This is an incorrect interpretation of the Mayan perception of time. It is the end of an age in 2012. The Mayans had a 52 year cycle, much like we have a 100 year cycle. The date of 2012 is the end of one age, and the beginning of another.

Would you care to back that up with, you know, evidence, oh weary time-traveller?


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