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speculative Jul 15, 2008 08:39 PM

Still no good launch titles for the Wii? :(

Wii is becoming GC 2.0 which was N64 2.0 which unfortunately most definitely was not SNES 2.0... I can't even be bothered to check to see if there was any Rygar update at E3 because that title has been announced for nearly a year now with no progress.

wvlfpvp Jul 15, 2008 08:49 PM

So . . . Reggie . . .



Where's my Mother 3?

No. Hard Pass. Jul 15, 2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wvlfpvp (Post 627286)
So . . . Reggie . . .



Where's my Mother 3?

Japan.

wvlfpvp Jul 15, 2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beard Overflow (Post 627289)
Japan.

Along with my 'nigma for VC?

FatsDomino Jul 15, 2008 09:11 PM

wvlfpvp, I'm afraid we can only rely on each other when it comes to those things.

wvlfpvp Jul 15, 2008 09:12 PM

See, whereas you get mad, Acer, I just get frownyface'd. Plus I have enough NEW games to play without playing such awesomeness again. Even if it is on my TV and I can pretend that Terranigma actually got released in America.

speculative Jul 15, 2008 09:29 PM

You know what? They should have just announced some sort of 3rd-party episodic content based game with a planned 23 episodes over a 3-year period. The first episode would get released in Madagascar and only work on TVs with DC (not AC) to ensure region incompatibility. Then, a new screenshot would be leaked every 2 years. When the next Wii was announced, they could have announced that the remaining 22 episodes would be rolled into one big launch title (that would never get released). At least that would have entertained me for 1.5 seconds.

value tart Jul 15, 2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by speculative (Post 627307)
At least that would have entertained me for 1.5 seconds.

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This will entertain you for 1.5 YEARS.

wvlfpvp Jul 15, 2008 09:42 PM

Is it seizure-avatar week?

speculative Jul 15, 2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 627315)
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This will entertain you for 1.5 YEARS.

I am listening to The Beta Band's "Broke," and scarily that dude is drumming in pretty dang good time to the beat!

To stay somewhat on track do you think that Nintendo will change course at all, or will the Wii just keep churning out games like "Ninja Reflex" and variations on "Chicken Shoot?" I see a game like RE4 on the Wii and I wonder why there isn't a tad bit more variation. Too bad the Alone in the Dark game bites so bad. I would think an adventure game on Wii (see: Zak & Wiki) would be right up the Wii-mote's alley...

FatsDomino Jul 15, 2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by speculative (Post 627333)
I would think an adventure game on Wii (see: Zak & Wiki) would be right up the Wii-mote's alley...

Nobody buys Adventure/Point'n'Click games because we all have terrible taste.

espressivo Jul 15, 2008 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by K_ Takahashi (Post 627181)

LMFAO, wow, it looks like was a must see part of the conference after all. man, i gotta get a video of the conference. i wanna see this guy in real time

value tart Jul 15, 2008 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by speculative (Post 627333)
To stay somewhat on track do you think that Nintendo will change course at all

No. Not until they stop selling games at a rate of 50 million every five seconds.

speculative Jul 15, 2008 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 627355)
No. Not until they stop selling games at a rate of 50 million every five seconds.

Maybe the world will learn... when it runs out of money. I mean, how much money can there really be in the world?



Probably enough for Ninja Reflex 12...

value tart Jul 16, 2008 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by speculative (Post 627364)
Maybe the world will learn...

Never. EVER. Underestimate the ignorance of the average consumer.

speculative Jul 16, 2008 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 627386)
Never. EVER. Underestimate the ignorance of the average consumer.

Hmm... GC dev kit second-hand on Ebay + some sort of Wii-mote waggle feature = massive profit.

K_ Takahashi Jul 16, 2008 01:16 AM

there's also a SNES devkit available on a torrent (The Complete SNES Developer Kit : Other > Other - Mininova) if anyones interested in that.

speculative Jul 16, 2008 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by K_ Takahashi (Post 627403)
there's also a SNES devkit available on a torrent (The Complete SNES Developer Kit : Other > Other - Mininova) if anyones interested in that.

I find that highly more compelling than the Nintendo E3 news.

I smell 16-bit RPG with waggle-mote features comin' on...

Tagonist Jul 16, 2008 02:22 AM

Nintendo really have lost me.
If it wasn't my ersatz-Gamecube, my Wii would find its way to eBay pretty quickly...

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jul 16, 2008 07:23 AM

GTA DS will clearly suck massive donkey balls. What's the point of a GTA game with no blood, no swearing and no racial stereotypes? The main character will probably be fucking Mario and you have to drive around jumping on turtles or some equally banal crap like that, all the while using the stylus to draw pictures of which one you want to shoot at next and learning how to add up and cook better.

Pretty much everyone who's going to get one has a Wii now and nobody ever buys more than two games for the thing so unless they release some new hardware or start producing games that aren't Mario themed minigame-fests, Nintendo are fucked. The Wii needs a new Goldeneye and Killer Instinct to prove to people that it's more than just a joke console for drunk people and kids.

The company won't go tits up like Sega did because kids always need more DS games but the Wii is all but finished already. Every game store near me has like a one stand Wii display compared to at least 4 or 5 for every other console, including PS2. It's a remarkable achievement for a company that kicked so much ass with the SNES to fail so miserably ever since.

NovaX Jul 16, 2008 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 627463)
GTA DS will clearly suck massive donkey balls. What's the point of a GTA game with no blood, no swearing and no racial stereotypes?

I love from absolutely no information released, you've come to this conclusion. Genius.

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The main character will probably be fucking Mario and you have to drive around jumping on turtles or some equally banal crap like that, all the while using the stylus to draw pictures of which one you want to shoot at next and learning how to add up and cook better.
THE COUNT IS RISING.

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Pretty much everyone who's going to get one has a Wii now and nobody ever buys more than two games for the thing so unless they release some new hardware or start producing games that aren't Mario themed minigame-fests, Nintendo are fucked. The Wii needs a new Goldeneye and Killer Instinct to prove to people that it's more than just a joke console for drunk people and kids.
Your ignorance is impressive, Shin.

I am sure whatever console you own (Xbox or PS3, it doesn't matter) obviously satisfies you insatiable thirst for hundreds upon hundreds of mediocre racing games, sports games and shooting games, but here's the news flash: NOT ALL GAMERS ARE LIKE YOU SHIN.

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The company won't go tits up like Sega did because kids always need more DS games but the Wii is all but finished already. Every game store near me has like a one stand Wii display compared to at least 4 or 5 for every other console, including PS2. It's a remarkable achievement for a company that kicked so much ass with the SNES to fail so miserably ever since.
THE WII IS FINISHED! OF COURSE I AM DISREGARDING ALL SALES FIGURES, OF COURSE. OF COURSE, I AM BASING ALL MY FINDINGS ON WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN STORES. I CANNOT COMPREHEND THAT THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES APART FROM THE ONES I HAVE GIVEN, OF COURSE. THAT IS OF COURSE, IMPOSSIBLE!

FatsDomino Jul 16, 2008 08:47 AM

http://g.photos.cx/1216214057270-b6.gif

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jul 16, 2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NovaX (Post 627475)
I love from absolutely no information released, you've come to this conclusion. Genius.

True, but nobody has any information suggesting it will be good either. I am allowed to make predictions as much as anyone else is.

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I am sure whatever console you own (Xbox or PS3, it doesn't matter) obviously satisfies you insatiable thirst for hundreds upon hundreds of mediocre racing games, sports games and shooting games, but here's the news flash: NOT ALL GAMERS ARE LIKE YOU SHIN.
I have a 360 and a Wii as it happens. I like playing Wii games but it only seems to ever come out when I have mates round and we're drunk. I have never once felt the desire to play a Wii game on my own. These same mates also all own Wii's, in fact just about everyone I know owns a Wii. I am in no way suggesting that the console hasn't sold incredibly well. What I am suggesting and based on my personal experience and from reading various articles writen by market analysts and economists rather than gamers, is that most people don't buy any games for the thing. Everyone owns Wii Sports, most people also own one of Mario Party, Rayman Ravin Rabbids or Mario Olympics and literally a couple of people bought something else too.

Fair enough, you like shaking your wiimote, nobody can deny you that and at the right time, with the right people around, so do I but I only need one game to do that.

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THE WII IS FINISHED! OF COURSE I AM DISREGARDING ALL SALES FIGURES, OF COURSE. OF COURSE, I AM BASING ALL MY FINDINGS ON WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN STORES. I CANNOT COMPREHEND THAT THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES APART FROM THE ONES I HAVE GIVEN, OF COURSE. THAT IS OF COURSE, IMPOSSIBLE!
I'm taking the sales figures with a pinch of salt, knowing that a lot of software sales are tied in to new hardware purchases and that you only really get a feel for how much software is selling for a console after a couple of years. Looking at how much space is dedicated in stores to a product is a perfectly reasonable way to determine demand for a product. Big companies like GAME spend a fucking fortune on market research so they know what to stock and they stock things people are likely to buy. That they give fuck all space to Wii games suggested that they don't think many people want to buy them. That's just obvious isn't it.

Now if you take a deep breath, stop getting so butt-hurt that someone suggested that your precious Nintendo's current business model has holes in big enough to drive through and calm down and read what I said as a rational criticism rather than a personal attack you'll see that I'm making sense.

Why do you take criticism of Nintendo so personally anyway? Do you work for them or something? Am I dissing your life's work, are the harsh realities of my vision of the future going to leave you homeless and destititute? What is it?

I think it might be time for your naptime, you seem to be getting rather over-excited.

Helloween Jul 16, 2008 12:21 PM

I will agree that the Nintendo conference was lacking this year, but honestly, has anyone watched the Microsoft and Sony conferences. Not much better. Sure, Microsoft had a bunch of games to show, but X360's been around a full year longer than the PS3 and Wii. Here we find ourselves at the dead period. Now is when consoles just release stuff and putter around until it's time for another big hardware development. The last two E3s we saw exciting new hardware at it's best, and (some) launch titles to get excited about (well, except for Sony i guess).

Now that all the excitement has died down, Wii, like PS3, is still trying to find it's footing that it has to stand on for the next few years. Wii Motion Plus is definitely a step in the right direction in terms of refining the technology to better achieve the objective it set out to accomplish.

I remain optimistic for Wii and the potential therein. I'm not sure about you guys, but summer has always video game void, or at least i've thought so. As to why E3 was moved to July is beyond me, and i sort of expected something like this. There's time, and other conventions to look forward to. I can't justify sealing Wii's coffin yet.

Omnislash124 Jul 16, 2008 01:15 PM

I'm a big fan of Nintendo, but I have to agree, their presentation this year was definitely lacking. There are plenty of games that could have been focused on, but it seems like they really only presented 3 things. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Music, and an assload of sales charts. Everything else seemed like a passing mention. Animal Crossing Wii is good, but everything else just seemed lackluster.

I don't like to admit it, but it seems like the Wii's target audience has shifted a bit too far away from traditional gamers. I'm all for bringing new people to gaming, but it really just feels like traditional games are becoming more rare. I remain hopeful for Nintendo to release more traditional game announcements at TGS.

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Originally Posted by Bounce Overflow (Post 627481)

This video is full of win. Too bad it's true.


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