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Tagonist Jul 2, 2008 05:16 PM

Yeah, yeah. I know. Importing this one is fianlly an option without having to mod the platform beforehand.
Still... I'd just like to see the series finally making the jump over the pond...

No. Hard Pass. Jul 2, 2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tagonist (Post 622417)
Yeah, yeah. I know. Importing this one is fianlly an option without having to mod the platform beforehand.
Still... I'd just like to see the series finally making the jump over the pond...

Well, can't blame you. Europe gets boned pretty hard.

(largely posting for the inside nerd humour of Shadowrun following Earthdawn.)

Zergrinch Jul 2, 2008 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSonic (Post 622330)
It's keeping the original graphics intact? No update at all?

Honestly, I hope Square releases some screenshots that prove the original graphics rumor false.

Not a rumor. It's on the press release (Yahoo Business link) posted a page or so back.

NinjaguyDan Jul 2, 2008 06:52 PM

I hope it's not touchscreen heavy, I don't really like using it that much.

Infernal Monkey Jul 2, 2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tagonist (Post 622402)
Wonder if they'll FINALLY release the damn thing in Europe.

I mean... It's the best damn game they ever made. And what happens? It NEVER got released over here. NEVER. Not Trigger, not the PS1 Port, not Cross.
And this one again has just a US / JP date. Up to know of course, but given the (inexistant) history of the series over here, that doesn't bode well.

I dunno, it is Square-Europdoesn'texist and everything. They probably won't release it a third time round to keep with tradition~

But at least this version won't require a dodgy Action Replay/region switch cart or mod chip to play! :guitarist:

Hachifusa Jul 2, 2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Beard Overflow (Post 622403)
A) No it isn't.

Incidentally - and I'm just curious, here - but would you consider it one of the better games out there, or is it completely passable?

Because I always considered CT to be one of my personal favorites, if not the "best game ever" kind of deal.

No. Hard Pass. Jul 2, 2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hachifusa (Post 622575)
Incidentally - and I'm just curious, here - but would you consider it one of the better games out there, or is it completely passable?

Because I always considered CT to be one of my personal favorites, if not the "best game ever" kind of deal.

I'd call CT one of the best ever. Definitely of its generation, at least.

value tart Jul 2, 2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Beard Overflow (Post 622091)
I'm giving it twenty posts before someone compares it to nazis.

Jesus christ, DO NOT PREEMPTIVELY INVOKE GODWIN'S LAW.

Muzza Jul 3, 2008 12:12 AM

Listening to Lavos roar in awesome DS sound = :D

I'm really excited about this, too. Chrono Trigger is one of the best RPGs I've ever played, and seeing it appreciated with such fanfare 13 years after its initial release makes me quite happy. I still think that they should make a spin off featuring Robo becoming a total badass and turning on all the humans (and frogs, perhaps). Bitchin'.

But yeah this should be totally awesome!

FatsDomino Jul 3, 2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 622587)
Jesus christ, DO NOT PREEMPTIVELY INVOKE GODWIN'S LAW.

If he'd given it a little bit over 40 posts he'd have been right. :3:

Helloween Jul 3, 2008 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bounce Overflow (Post 622284)
Surely, this bodes well for another Chrono title in the future.
!*(&%^ing fantastic! =))))

I didn't want to say it first for fear of getting a thrashing. I wonder if Squarenix would ever consider recreating Radical Dreamers? That would something i'd be interested in playing. I know that Chrono Cross incorporated RD into it's storyline, they did change things after all.

Rotorblade Jul 3, 2008 11:36 AM

Hate to kill your speculation (well, no, not really), but I wouldn't get your hopes up for other games in light of Square porting Chrono Trigger.

More detail from Square president, no more non-mainstream games allowed.

If you look at the strategy, it's them saying "Hey! Chrono Trigger was successful! Let's do something that won't demand too much development money that will have a high chance of profit!" There's nothing wrong with wanting to turn a profit, but bear in mind that it's also going to smash your speculation attempts at "What if Square redid that one game that led to another game that was a really huge fucking disappointment?"

Andrew Evenstar Jul 3, 2008 12:24 PM

What the hell is Square doing. That's ridiculous.

Helloween Jul 3, 2008 12:24 PM

Squarenix really is the abusive spouse who keeps beating his loyal wife... i mean fans. And we keep going back for more, believing every time that he can change, and things will be different than before.

Why did i have to enjoy substance and creativity in video games? Why couldn't i just be a sports and ports fan like the rest of the world?

Rotorblade Jul 3, 2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Helloween (Post 622828)
substance and creativity

Wait wait... you just asked for a remake of Radical Dreamers... a REMAKE, the antithesis of "creating." And suddenly you're harping on about substance?

Jesus Christ.

Helloween Jul 3, 2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rotorblade (Post 622834)
Wait wait... you just asked for a remake of Radical Dreamers... a REMAKE, the antithesis of "creating." And suddenly you're harping on about substance?

Jesus Christ.

You are aware of what Radical Dreamers was right? A text based game that was released on Satellaview. If any game needs a recreation (note i didn't say remake) it's that one. The only reason i'd want that game to be recreated is to flesh out Magus' story, as he's the character we should be looking to to continue the story.

value tart Jul 3, 2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Evenstar (Post 622827)
What the hell is Square doing. That's ridiculous.

They are attempting to turn a profit in an industry wherein the most reliable way to do that is to bank on your old material and repackage it.

But oh! This is the INTERNET. People making money are frowned upon. Forgive me, I forgot, I should be demonizing Square for rereleasing a game on a system that kids ages 10-14 are almost guaranteed to have. Forgive me for wanting a new generation of kids that age to have the same experience with CT that I did at my age. The experience that got me addicted to JRPGs in the first place.

I'm sorry, I forgot that children today are not allowed to play OUR games, because they're OURS and they're SACRED. We have to give them watered down rehashes like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, stand there approvingly, and go "Do you like it? Well, if you like it, then spend some money on a SNES and buy Crono Trigger! It's only good on the SNES!"

Jesus christ, it's like Scientology. Make you feel like shit, and propose that the way to not feel like shit is, in turn, a real cheap but obviously incomplete first day, then progressively more expensive and more mentally demanding days, until you're a giant useless lump of shit that gets molded by whatever God Atlus tells you to do, blindly blathering on to anyone who'll listen about how your religion genre is without letting anybody find out for themselves without paying the ridiculous gobs of cash that you did.

Fuck you, Tom Cruise.

Rotorblade Jul 3, 2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Helloween (Post 622835)
You are aware of what Radical Dreamers was right? A text based game that was released on Satellaview. If any game needs a recreation (note i didn't say remake) it's that one. The only reason i'd want that game to be recreated is to flesh out Magus' story, as he's the character we should be looking to to continue the story.

First of all, trying to play semantics with "Recreation" and "Remake?" You don't honestly believe those terms don't represent the same principle, do you? Seriously.

Again, you're talking about Square doing things they've *GASP*, already done.

Helloween Jul 3, 2008 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rotorblade (Post 622838)
First of all, trying to play semantics with "Recreation" and "Remake?" You don't honestly believe those terms don't represent the same principle, do you? Seriously.

Again, you're talking about Square doing things they've *GASP*, already done.

In my ideal future, including Radical Dreamers v. 2.0, i would have Square set the stage for the Chrono Series to actually become a presence in the current world of video games once again, and *gasp* maybe even give way for Chrono Break to finally happen.

And as for semantics, ok, i'll admit you can use those two words interchangeably, but if any game needs to be remade to become valid it's RD. Give it animations, a world to explore, and hell, actually make it an RPG. Re-write the story if need be. Make it possible for there to be more in the Chrono storyline. That's all i'm saying.

value tart Jul 3, 2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Helloween (Post 622842)
Radical Dreamers v. 2.0

Stop trying to come up with ways to dodge the fact that you want S-E to do with Radical Dreamers the exact same thing you're getting mad at them for doing with Chrono Trigger.

Hachifusa Jul 3, 2008 01:13 PM

Uh, you guys forget that a company can be creative and create new games and do the occasional remake. It's not a mutually-exclusive thing, here. I know that Square Enix overdoes the re-release/remake department, but Christ, those used to be kind of interesting.

As for the news, it makes me want to never support Square Enix again. Seriously, they just keep fucking up worse and worse.

Edit: Well, to be fair, I don't know exactly what is meant by "circle of interest"; the post can be read as "continue to make the shit we've been making" or "stop making that shit and make something the customers want". So I'm gonna shut my fucking trap for right now.

value tart Jul 3, 2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hachifusa (Post 622848)
Uh, you guys forget that a company can be creative and create new games and do the occasional remake. It's not a mutually-exclusive thing, here. I know that Square Enix overdoes the re-release/remake department, but Christ, those used to be kind of interesting.

Your point is entirely valid, but I think the reason people are getting up in arms with this particular remake is because of this maddening expectation that Square-Enix was going to continue a series that never sold well beyond the first installment. They made Chrono Cross, and while that game was pretty good, it sold like dicks on Herpes Lane. Can you blame them for going back to the original?

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Originally Posted by Hachifusa (Post 622848)
As for the news, it makes me want to never support Square Enix again. Seriously, they just keep fucking up worse and worse.

Have you played TWEWY?

Hachifusa Jul 3, 2008 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 622849)
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Have you played TWEWY?

No. I avoided it more or less because I don't read gaming magazines and I saw it held the developer "Square Enix". I'm beginning to think I might have miscalculated, though, considering I just read the comments on the linked article and everyone is going crazy over it.

Square Enix usually sucks, though, so I forgive myself for perhaps overlooking a (possibly) good game. Can you blame me?

Rotorblade Jul 3, 2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffet Overflow (Post 622849)
They made Chrono Cross, and while that game was really good

You know, I'm not going to say "OMG, IT WAS TEH BAD!", but you're exaggerating CC's quality and the way it was received. It was heralded as the best thing since Jesus when it first came out, it was only later where all the cool kids looked at it with disdain.

value tart Jul 3, 2008 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hachifusa (Post 622851)
No. I avoided it more or less because I don't read gaming magazines and I saw it held the developer "Square Enix". I'm beginning to think I might have miscalculated, though, considering I just read the comments on the linked article and everyone is going crazy over it.

Square Enix usually sucks, though, so I forgive myself for perhaps overlooking a (possibly) good game. Can you blame me?

Yes, I can, and I will. If you're going to out of hand reject a game just because of the name on the box without viewing any comments, reviews, previews, or videos of the game, then you are a moron.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fully of the view that Square-Enix dips into its own well a few too many times and sometimes shits in the well and tries to present a shiny turd as if it were amazing just because it has that temporary gloss from the "good water" (see, incidentally, the PS1 port of Chrono Trigger). I am too proud of this runon sentence to change it. Bite me, grammar nazis.

But that doesn't exclude anything they ever do from being good just by default.

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Originally Posted by Rotorblade (Post 622852)
You know, I'm not going to say "OMG, IT WAS TEH BAD!", but you're exaggerating CC's quality and the way it was received. It was heralded as the best thing since Jesus when it first came out, it was only later where all the cool kids looked at it with disdain.

I recall seeing that, while it sold well here, it actually sold a lot less than expected in Japan. Also, thank you for quoting that post, I meant to say "pretty good" rather than "really good".


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