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Krelian Jul 8, 2007 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Solis (Post 466902)
Is the game even going to have a story? It's a railshooter, and from the looks of it the game is simply a retelling of past RE games. I really don't see how it's going to play any bigger part in the RE storyline than the Survivor games did (In fact, probably even less so than them).

The game has stages set around Resident Evil 0, 1, 2 and 3, as well as an entirely new chapter involving Wesker and Umbrella.

Kairi Li Jul 8, 2007 06:39 AM

I personally wanna know why RE2 isnt included in Umbrella Chronicles. Its probably one of the best games in the series, and Claire was awesome.

Or it IS included, they just haven't shown a single shot of it? They already have several trailers out including one with voice acting, you'd think there would be been at least 3 seconds of RE2. So far I only seen characters from RE1, 3, and 0. Claire and Leon are so far missing.

I wanna see Claire in current gen graphics... Her last appearance was in CV...

Prime Blue Jul 8, 2007 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMan (Post 466937)
Still, the impressive pricetag and the 'upgrades' for RE4 are making the WII look much more attractive.

Yep, but that is totally nullified for PAL countries. You'll have to pay well over €40 here to get the game. It's something like double the US price, not to mention ridiculous for a two year old game.

Slayer X Jul 8, 2007 09:53 AM

it's double the price, but is it double the value? (ie. exchange?) It's probably the only game ever to attempt to stay true to USD -> CAD exchange values. Instead of kicking the price well above exchange (usually $10 increase from the USD price) Resident Wiivil 4 was only a $5 increase.

Prime Blue Jul 8, 2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 467585)
it's double the price, but is it double the value? (ie. exchange?) It's probably the only game ever to attempt to stay true to USD -> CAD exchange values. Instead of kicking the price well above exchange (usually $10 increase from the USD price) Resident Wiivil 4 was only a $5 increase.

It's value, not price. $30 are approximately €22. Pity that the price is not due to exchange rates, development costs or taxes and tolls. It's just CAPCOM being greedy.

Kairi Li Jul 10, 2007 08:31 AM

Yeah, RE4 Wii still cost me 80 aussie bucks to get it. Its a rip off in terms of comparison with the US price, but the fun I got for it its almost worth it. Waving the wiimote to quick knife and actually aiming to shoot makes this game better than ever, and I've played RE4 100 times already.

Krelian Jul 10, 2007 08:34 AM

RE4 Wii cost me £30, which is $60 right now. Considering most new games retail for £40 here ($80), it's kind of a deal.

It'd be nice to have a £15 game though :( Fuck the USA.

Megalith Jul 10, 2007 04:02 PM

Seeing as how I have had my Wii for over half a year and have not seen one single game worth buying, I guess I'll pick up RE4 out of pity for the system.

I would have picked it up sooner if I knew that the graphics were better than the GCN version, with true widescreen support and GCN controller support.

eprox1 Jul 10, 2007 05:17 PM

TOTALLY OBSCURE & IRRELEVANT TO THE WII RE QUESTION:

Why isn't Code Veronica a numbered entry in the series, e.g. Resident Evil 4...

I have been wondering that for EONS.

Kuhazan Jul 11, 2007 01:21 AM

because as far as gameplay goes... Code Veronica didn't really add anything new... so thats probably why I guess.

But I purchased RE4 for Wii with no other shooter alternative... I've played through the PS2 ver one time. The Wii version is much better just because of the controls I've always wanted in a console shooter... now Capcom should release another RE using the same control setup... heck they can use the scrapped content from RE4 V3 and make an original game out of it :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo_hMbJQeU4

Solis Jul 11, 2007 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuhazan (Post 469297)
because as far as gameplay goes... Code Veronica didn't really add anything new... so thats probably why I guess.

RE2 hardly added much "new" gameplay content. Aside from the whole "character flashing" and being able to increase your carry limit with a sidepack instead of having it limited to which character you chose, the basic gameplay was pretty much identical, just refined. The game didn't even have the auto-aim feature in the original retail release.

Code Veronica did add several things to the series, including the stationary aimed view when using the sniper rifle/linear launcher, which of course was carried into Resident Evil 4. And personally I thought it was the best game in the series when it was released.

As far as why it's being left out of Umbrella Chronicles...who knows. Maybe they just figured having two lightgun games based on the series would be too much to bear (after Resident Evil Survivor: Code Veronica of course).

Guru Jul 11, 2007 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kairi Li (Post 468693)
Yeah, RE4 Wii still cost me 80 aussie bucks to get it. Its a rip off in terms of comparison with the US price, but the fun I got for it its almost worth it. Waving the wiimote to quick knife and actually aiming to shoot makes this game better than ever, and I've played RE4 100 times already.

You guys don't think there's anything that affects the prices? I mean, I doubt that game companies pick some arbitrary price point for games. I'd imagine that some of the costs of shipment and distribution are included, since I'd imagine that the majority of video games aren't made in Australia (or Europe), and if they are made in Japan or China -- these countries have great trade agreements with the United States which generally keep the costs down here for Americans. That has to have at least a little bit to do with the prices.

Hotobu Jul 11, 2007 03:37 AM

It's also got a place called Queensland and America hates the gays.

As for the scrapped RE4 footage that could have been an interesting game, or at least part of a game. It actually looked better than the RE 4 release we initially got graphically (why Leon's Jacket showed some fluidity then and not now is beyond me). I also liked seeing Leon holding a flashlight as opposed to his sunny aura lighting the way.

Maybe we'll see these things in RE5

Solis Jul 11, 2007 03:54 AM

Well, my hope was that they'd use the gameplay style from the scrapped version of RE4 for Umbrella Chronicles, since it seemed like the perfect way to "bridge the gap" between the classic RE style and the RE4 style with its hybrid form. It would've worked great for a game which is supposed to be final chapter in the classic RE storyline that deals with the fall of Umbrella

I'm sorry, but no matter how much I try I just can't be anything but disappointed by what's been shown for Umbrella Chronicles. A return to the classic RE games as lightgun shooters just seems like blasphemy. Odd and unlikely as it may sound, I kinda hope that a beta or something of the old hybrid version of RE4 is leaked so we could try it ourselves and see what the gameplay would've been like in an RE game handled like that. The videos look interesting enough, but it's hard to tell if something like that would be cumbersome.

I do agree that the graphics in that canceled version seem better than even the Wii edition of RE4, which is even more impressive given the fact that it was actually fullscreen (unlike widescreen RE4, which only uses about 2/3rds as many pixels as fullscreen). I guess the focus on smaller enclosed environments allowed them to pull off much more character detail and lighting effects.

Kairi Li Jul 12, 2007 11:06 AM

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/3393.html

Watched the Developer's walktrhough, so we actually see some solid gameplay along with the zapper, which I personally think its noth worth 20 bucks.

Nor is it a new way to play games. Its essentially a shooter, like house of the dead, on rails. Nothing new about it. Nintendo seems to be starting to talk crap for this year's E3, or maybe Nintendo America has hired idiots cause the Japanese do everything.

Kuhazan Jul 13, 2007 04:45 PM

I still think their idea behind changing the gameplay to on rails because "we want an RE that anyone can enjoy!" Do I need to remind them that this game will be rated M and only available to 17 and older gamers? We don't care for simplistic arcade shooters that only keep your interest in... well an arcade.

Well thats my stance on the current RE:UC

Prime Blue Jul 13, 2007 08:26 PM

Additionally, biohazard4 Wii edition sells like crazy.

Kairi Li Jul 13, 2007 09:16 PM

I think UC will be for the major RE fans who would wanna co op with a fellow RE fan, and to those who care about Wesker's story along with Umbrella's fall.

For me, I just wanna shoot zombies with my friends. So this game is ok for me. Not on a top ten most wanted, but I'll get it eventually.

RE4 Wii is fun. The Shooting gallery is actually workable now for me. Got all bottle caps.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 13, 2007 10:01 PM

I hated the controls for all the Resident Evil games before RE4 too much to really play much of any of them, so I'm glad they made this on rails. This way it's a fun lightgun game rather than just another rehash for me to avoid.

Kuhazan Jul 14, 2007 01:45 AM

originally RE:UC was going to be like RE4 so it wouldn't have reverted to the old system... thats what's annoying...

WolfDemon Jul 14, 2007 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuhazan (Post 471270)
originally RE:UC was going to be like RE4 so it wouldn't have reverted to the old system... thats what's annoying...

FUCK. I kept saying all through RE4 how awesome it would be if they remade RE2 with 4's engine.

Kairi Li Jul 14, 2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuhazan (Post 471270)
originally RE:UC was going to be like RE4 so it wouldn't have reverted to the old system... thats what's annoying...

..........

God DAMMIT!

Solis Jul 14, 2007 07:42 PM

Yeah, I had posted this interview earlier in the thread that explains why they changed Umbrella Chronicles to a lightgun shooter from the RE4 style:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/resident-wi...asy-256281.php

Originally the game was essentially going to be a more tension-filled version of RE4, with ammo being less prevalent and inventory management having a larger focus (so that you'd only be able to carry around 2 guns instead of nearly your entire arsenal like in RE4).

Kuhazan Jul 14, 2007 11:38 PM

oh thats a bad idea... the fact that you could do that in RE4 was what made it so great :P

xman25 Sep 20, 2007 05:07 PM

New trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25204.html

xman25


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