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Lacerta Feb 3, 2007 07:44 AM

Well the only versions I've found are kind of lackluster compared to what the original was, but I haven't been able to find that anywhere so eh. It seems the "how much is actual data" thing was removed due to sometimes getting false information due to bad reading on the header or what not. Anywho:

The Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 or higher is required.

Since it was originally designed to directly transfer onto your DS-X, to put it on the hard drive is easy if you know where it has to go. Just make an apps folder in your C drive or whatever you're going to store them in (it goes based on drive only), and then when you trim it will copy it there.

DS-X Manager v0.2.4

I think the only function that works on it is ROM Trimming, since the creator wanted to focus more on batch trimming and trimming at the proper safe size instead of dealing with other things. It's good at what it does though.

Shaolin Samurai Feb 3, 2007 02:12 PM

Juicy new info on the G6/M3 Real, the next-gen slot-1 solution.

"The G6 DS and M3 Real will boast true 100% ROM compatibility and the ability to mimic an authentic NDS game cart 1:1. G6 DS will boast impressive USB 2.0 speeds with 16Gbit models first available, but higher capacity cards will follow. The M3 DS Real will support external flash cards."

Elixir Feb 4, 2007 02:08 AM

Wow, the support for the M3 Simply/R4 is booming. I'm liking the Monkey Island ones. Here's some more skins:



I can't wait for Phoenix Wright/Contact/Hotel Dusk ones to come along.

Lacerta Feb 4, 2007 02:15 AM

Hay Samus is dat a metroid on ur hed.

Man all of these skins are so awesome; it is becoming kind of hard to decide on one :(

Free.User Feb 4, 2007 02:33 AM

I've been interested in these for a while now, but I can't decide between the M3 Simply and the M3 Perfect. Can someone confirm the following please?

M3 Lite:
Don't need to flash your DS
Plays GBA games
Supports skins


M3 Simply:
Doesn't need a GBA cart
Don't need to flash your DS
Doesn't play GBA games
Is half the price of the M3 Perfect


If that's true, then the only advantage is that the M3 Perfect supports GBA, which is what I initially wanted. Could this be fixed on the M3 Simply with a firmware update?

Shaolin Samurai Feb 4, 2007 02:45 AM

The only way any slot-1 device would be able to play GBA files would be through some sort of emulation, and suffice to say GBA emulation on a DS probably won't ever be seriously explored.

That said, I strongly recommend the M3 Lite. Yeah it costs a bit more but you're getting support for literally thousands more games and homebrew than you'd get with a slot-1 device.

Elixir Feb 4, 2007 02:47 AM

I'm pretty sure your DS needs to be flashed in order to read any slot 2 stuff.

That means M3 Lite.

Free.User Feb 4, 2007 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 380388)
I'm pretty sure your DS needs to be flashed in order to read any slot 2 stuff.

That means M3 Lite.

I had read somewhere what with the M3, the passcard replaces the need to flash the DS. Unless by "Flash" you mean put in the passcard, but I mean "flash" as in stick the screwdriver in the DS.

Elixir Feb 4, 2007 02:56 AM

Well, if you don't have a flashed DS (screwdriver method, aka permanently flashed) and you're wanting to play a flash cart from the GBA slot, you'll need to have a passcard in the DS slot constantly, just so the DS can recognize that DS games are being run from the GBA slot.

Otherwise, the M3 Simply and R4 run straight away without any need for passcards or flashme.nds' or anything.

Shaolin Samurai Feb 4, 2007 03:18 AM

The need or a Passcard/Flashme can be a hassle, but at the end of the day I'm glad to be rid of the annoying health advisory disclaimer and to know that I can always recover my firmware if it ever becomes corrupted.

Free.User Feb 4, 2007 04:22 AM

So Flashing aside, if I want GBA emulation, I should go for the M3 Perfect?

Shaolin Samurai Feb 4, 2007 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free.User (Post 380428)
So Flashing aside, if I want GBA emulation, I should go for the M3 Perfect?

It's the real thing, not emulation, but yes.

Free.User Feb 4, 2007 10:58 PM

And Snes emulation will work on both the M3 Perfect and Simply?
Also, when videos are converted to the .gdp format (or whatever M3 uses), about how much filesize compression occurs? I'm having a tough time choosing between 1G and 2G.

Elixir Feb 4, 2007 11:00 PM

Eh, SNES emulation works on the DS, except it's extremely crappy and you have a very limited choice of games.

I haven't used my M3 Simply for movies so far so I can't comment on what they'd be like. I do know however that it's not a full screen video on the top DS screen. One of the videos in the topic shows this.

Lacerta Feb 5, 2007 01:23 AM

A 185MB Episode of Negima!? got compressed into a 58.3MB dpg file after using the included conversion software that comes w/ moonshell.

I haven't bothered with moonshell yet so I cannot comment on how it looks, but I think the tools are designed to make it good enough to watch on the DS screen, which is fine by me.

Free.User Feb 5, 2007 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 381237)
Eh, SNES emulation works on the DS, except it's extremely crappy and you have a very limited choice of games.

Is this because of a limitation in the DS hardware, or is it something that firmware updates could fix?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 381237)
I haven't used my M3 Simply for movies so far so I can't comment on what they'd be like. I do know however that it's not a full screen video on the top DS screen. One of the videos in the topic shows this.

Well, it was a widescreen video but was stretched to the edges of the screen (while maintaining the correct aspect ratio), so I'm not sure what you mean.

Elixir Feb 5, 2007 02:03 AM

I very very highly doubt the DS could play quality video at full screen. DS emulation is weak, like I said in the original post. There isn't much homebrew emulation development for Megadrive and SNES departments.

Games like Earthbound run, but the text in the menus won't display. This makes games pretty impossible to play. Stuff like that. It isn't something firmware updates could fix, and I'm pretty sure it's because of the DS' capabilities.

I'm sure the SNES emulation will come around but not for awhile. When almost all 16 bit games work on the PSP, there isn't much incentive to get it working for the DS.

Lacerta Feb 5, 2007 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 381393)
I very very highly doubt the DS could play quality video at full screen.

It does, you just need to have the correct settings when you are converting.

Elixir Feb 5, 2007 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacerta (Post 381395)
It does, you just need to have the correct settings when you are converting.

This probably isn't all that noteworthy, but if it's running at full screen will the filesize increase by much?

Lacerta Feb 5, 2007 02:19 AM

No, it all comes down to how you encode it, fullscreen or wide won't have an effect on the filesize oddly enough.

Free.User Feb 6, 2007 12:22 AM

Anyone know about the quality of Corsair Micro-SD cards? I know that their products are generally great (I own a Corsair 620HX PSU and XMS2 RAM, and they are superb), but I've heard that the M3s can be picky about what Micro SD cards they use.

I have this one in mind.

Elixir Feb 6, 2007 06:41 PM

I went ahead and downloaded FFVI Advance and then realized the M3 Simply doesn't do GBA.

No loss. GBA games I do enjoy are few and far between so if anything I'd just purchase this.

Sakabadger Feb 7, 2007 06:36 AM

I notice you didn't make any mention of any EZ Team stuff in your topic post. Why is this, bad experience or something?

I only ask because I have an EZ-IV Lite (slot-2 device with a passme for slot-1) and it works perfectly fine. I can't actually get moonshell to work, but I suspect that's an issue with my SD card.

Anyway, just tossing it out there as an alternative, since it is fairly inexpensive.

FatsDomino Feb 7, 2007 08:01 AM

Hmmm... well personally I wouldn't consider it by default since it's slot-2. I've been holding out this whole time for a great slot-1 solution. Not knocking it since a slot-2 solution works for you but hey I'm just talking for my preference here. Just that if someone were to ask me what to get "M3 Simply plus good SD card" would be my answer.

Lacerta Feb 7, 2007 08:11 AM

Well, it's mentioned but isn't given a little mini-review like the others. Maybe one day I will get a Slot-2 as well, so I can put that silly "Slot-2" option on the Simply to use (Which is not intended for GBA use apparently, but rather booting up the Slot-2 devices.)


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