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Ashton Oct 21, 2006 06:08 PM

I dont think any RPG except mabye FF12 will sell well, and that's not my gigantic Penelo boner talking!

That's my Wii preorder talking. And, also important, how we got a gigantor amount of RPGs in the last 2 months. XS3, Tales of the Abyss, VP2, Contact, Okami, Disgaea 2, are just the ones I have to play.

But the wii and ps3 are coming out! Hype! Preorders! MADDEN! Who cares about dem rpgs!

:rolleyes:

Memnoch Oct 22, 2006 12:11 PM

I would def pay if this game hits europe! Great story and you gotta love the Six God Generals ^^ (and the humor rofl!)

Cetra Oct 22, 2006 04:13 PM

Another bug warning:

I've had the game lock up on me three times now in the coliseum exhibition fight which you get after defeating the team advanced level. This is on a fairly new slimline PS2.

Save before you go into the advanced team round.


Update: Yeah I just got it to lock up a 4th time and I think I've pinned down the bug. If your last party member dies to a spell attack then the game will lock up, so I guess...uh just don't lose the fight like I have been.

Go, go Namco QA.

Forsety Oct 22, 2006 06:13 PM

Doesnt seem to happen to me. Am I the only one who played this game all the way through and never had it crash? D:

Lacerta Oct 22, 2006 06:13 PM

Probably related to the hi-ougi bug maybe?

Then again the game does like to lock up for no reason at all, so who knows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forsety
Doesnt seem to happen to me. Am I the only one who played this game all the way through and never had it crash? D:


You got the golden copy! >=0!

Manny Biggz Oct 22, 2006 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kainlightwind
Hrm. 30 - 40 hour game vs 100+ hour rpg. I'll pass on Tales because I already got plenty on my plate till FFXII. And PSU? Enjoy your monthly fee paying ;)

To each their own, but IMO FFXII was a complete waste of time. The only reason I bothered with it is because I want to play through every FF game. I preffer speaking out on my opinions through experience junior. :)

Did anyone else notice the really stupid editing they did on the scene where:

Spoiler:
Jade stabs the god general in the beggining


That REALLY ticked me off. Could've been worse I guess...

Lacerta Oct 23, 2006 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Biggz
Did anyone else notice the really stupid editing they did on the scene where:

Spoiler:
Jade stabs the god general in the beggining


That REALLY ticked me off. Could've been worse I guess...


That's how the original scene was, in all of its crappiness.

I was more bothered by the

Spoiler:
Empty Cheagle Cage witha Cheagle inside, good job model glitches

Forsety Oct 23, 2006 05:28 AM

So was anybody else surprised to find out Guy actually had a pretty legitimate reason to be afraid of women touching him?

Manny Biggz Oct 23, 2006 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacerta
That's how the original scene was, in all of its crappiness.

I was more bothered by the

Spoiler:
Empty Cheagle Cage witha Cheagle inside, good job model glitches

Really? I must be going crazy then.

Arc Impulse Oct 23, 2006 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forsety
Doesnt seem to happen to me. Am I the only one who played this game all the way through and never had it crash? D:

I've gotten no crashes at all, either.

Cetra Oct 24, 2006 12:26 AM

Wow, just finished the game and clocked in a mind blowing 82 hours which completely shocked me. Between working and going to school full time, a game of this length would normally take me a month or two to get though. I have no idea where I found the time to finish this game so quickly. I just couldn't put this game down though. Every minute of free time had me playing it because I couldn't wait to see what was going to happen next. It's been a long time since I've lost myself in an RPG like this.

Surprisingly the hype held up. By far the best Tales game in every aspect as people were saying and one of the better RPGs to come around in a long time. I don't really feel up to writing a detailed review, but I loved every character, I loved the growth each character went though and the story actually surprised me quite a few times. Other than the load-times, excellent game all around.

And after looking at a guide to get an idea of what I missed, I'm already considering a second playthrough to get the tons of things I missed. This game just has so much to do and doing it usually provides even more character and/or story background which I tend to find far more rewarding then just getting items.

Miles Oct 24, 2006 02:45 AM

I'm considering getting the guide too. After looking over an FAQ up to the current point I'm at in the game I missed out on a TON of timed events and titles.

Does anyone know if anything was censored in the US version of the game, or is it pretty much the same as the JP version? I'm glad they didn't change alcohol to "Palma Potion" this time around.

jb1234 Oct 24, 2006 02:55 AM

At first, I found the game a bit slow. And then one night, I started playing when the game clock was at 9:30 and finished at 22:30. I couldn't believe it. I was completely captivated.

I beat Xenosaga III just before TotA and I actually think TotA has the better story and characters (although they're both very very good).

I'm at around 28 hours now and I suspect I'm nearing the end of the game. I'm at the point where...

Spoiler:
I entered the volcano in search of a Sephiroth. At this point in the game, there's this amazing sense of dread. Every time I go to do something important (which is pretty much any time I do something, *period*), I fear that Van, the Six-God Generals or Mohs will come along to make things difficult. Sadly, my fears have often been justified.


Obviously Luke gets the most development as a character but I'm surprised at how in-depth the game goes with the rest of them (aside from Anise who remains pretty much useless and unexplored).

I'm sure that I've missed a LOT of sidequests. I don't tend to do them in RPGs (as they're usually aside from the main story and a distraction). Especially in this game, I've just been plowing through because I want to get to the next plot point as soon as possible. A second run-through will be in order, methinks (especially if the extra stuff leads to further character development, ala Symphonia).

Forsety Oct 24, 2006 03:22 AM

You're actually not as close to the end as you think. I'd say you passed the halfway mark a little bit ago, the last time you saw Sync; which shouldn't have been more than a little bit before where you are at currently.

Lacerta Oct 24, 2006 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles
Does anyone know if anything was censored in the US version of the game, or is it pretty much the same as the JP version? I'm glad they didn't change alcohol to "Palma Potion" this time around.

Just names & minor dialogue changes (like from shit/junk to dreck) were changed. No real censoring there

Scarletdeath Oct 24, 2006 01:06 PM

Hey guys, I wanna ask; is there any voice acting in those private cutscenes(the scenes that follows after you press select)? I don't hear any VA for those but the text holds until their mouth stops moving, as if they follow after the VA. Either that or my game is glitched.

Tequila Oct 24, 2006 01:18 PM

Nope, it was taken out of the US version.

Scarletdeath Oct 24, 2006 01:27 PM

Damn it, they have got to stop doing that. Taking out the VA for the side story after the main plot ends in ToL was bad enough. The VA in ToL was actually great.

jb1234 Oct 24, 2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forsety
You're actually not as close to the end as you think. I'd say you passed the halfway mark a little bit ago, the last time you saw Sync; which shouldn't have been more than a little bit before where you are at currently.

Are you SERIOUS? How can the game sustain that much plot? There doesn't seem like there's much story left...

That and I looked at a FAQ and it seemed like I was near the end. Maybe the last few areas are just REALLY big. ;)

Cetra Oct 24, 2006 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb1234
Are you SERIOUS? How can the game sustain that much plot? There doesn't seem like there's much story left...

That and I looked at a FAQ and it seemed like I was near the end. Maybe the last few areas are just REALLY big. ;)

Minor spoiler, nothing specific:

Spoiler:

They pull the false ending card. A whole new 'sequel plot' starts up after the first resolution. Think Final Fantasy VI.

Forsety Oct 24, 2006 07:58 PM

Also, some of the coming areas are pretty big, yeah. Absorption Gate is probably three or four times as long as any of the other dungeons you've come across.

jb1234 Oct 24, 2006 08:18 PM

Exciting! I wanted to finish this game before FFXII came out but I think I'm going to stick with it for a while longer. I don't mind spending more time with these characters. ;)

Arc Impulse Oct 26, 2006 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cetra
Minor spoiler, nothing specific:

Spoiler:

They pull the false ending card. A whole new 'sequel plot' starts up after the first resolution. Think Final Fantasy VI.

Or Tales of Destiny.

Anyways.

Luke has to be my favorite character now, they handled him very well. I've never gone through so many hate/like transitions over a single character before, and even during the parts that will make you dislike him, you'll see why he acts the way he does eventually, or at least figure it out yourself.

In other news, it should be illegal for spellcasters to be as cool as Jade.

Iris Oct 29, 2006 01:02 PM

The game seems pretty in tact after localization. The bosses are still just as hard, the opening is fairly similar, and the characters still get developed throughout the story. Besides some time-consuming sidequests, most of which you'll miss, and the sometimes monotone voice acting, it's much better than most people probably expected.

Also, Natalia battle gameplay is simply awesome.

Zeta26 Oct 29, 2006 06:36 PM

Well, the game goes beyond that. Namco Bandai went also far as to give us features that the japanese version didn't have. Such features include

Spoiler:

- Getting Anise's extension, Dying Moon. Which in the japanese version you'd get it in your 2nd play through

- Getting Natalia and Guy's 2nd Mystic Arte. Natalia had Noble Roar (via giving a special request to the bow in Din's shop)

- Guy had Brilliant Overlord

- You can pull of Jade's Indignation, 1st playthrough

- Tear's Fortune's Ark can be pulled off during 1st playthrough

- Replica Laboratory; The Abyss, can be accessed during your first game

- Luke can perform his Radiant Howl with his long hair. In addition, he has an extension with Ion. Hold X during his first Mystic attack

- Arena Cameo team has new cut-ins and new attacks. Definitely not present in the japanese version

- Nebilim has new cut ins
- Nebilim also has the same Mystic Artes as Tear & Jade

- Van also has a new full-body cut in, his Celestial Elegy


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