In regards to Firefly, I thought the show was well written, the actors all had their little quirks down to a t, and it was generally just fun to watch.

Joss Whedon can do no wrong in the eyes of fanboys, I know this to be true after reading Astonishing X-men. While the first arc was enjoyable, the rest of the series has simply sucked. The Danger Room coming alive, OMG! The hellfire club is back! Wow..yeah..sorry. No. The thing that pissed me off most was the ressurection of Collossus. Seriously, there was no need. He killed himself to save mankind..why would you deminish that? I can imagine the creative meeting on this. "We should bring back Collossus." "Oh my god Joss, can I lick your feet for you?" "Yes Mr. Quesada. You may."

In regards to Buffy. I enjoyed the movie emmensely. Not because it was groundbreaking, or had some kind of social commentary. No, it was just a stupid movie that didn't take itself overly serious. Then the show came out. The first season was actually fun to watch. I enjoyed the hookyness of it all, but quite frankly, having an apocolypse every season is kind of stale. And after season four, the quality of the show had severely dropped.

Finally, in regards to Angel. I liked the first 9 episodes or so. The comic relief was a demon/man named Doyle. He was a drunken irish demon guy who had visions. He made the show. My opinion on this show is simple. Watch the first nine episodes of season one, then watch the last season. That's about all that's worth your time.

Do you even know what you're talking about half the time? What the hell is 'your load' supposed to be, you know, in an effort to help me not spit it out anymore?

This, ladies and gents, is surely the heights of humor.

UGH, ALL THIS SARCASM! I can't take it anymore!!!

You do realize that you have now done the same thing that started your bitching in the first place?

But seriously, give it up already. Your attempts at being witty fail miserably. Of course, you're a one-trick pony, so I guess pretending to be witty with your insults is all you can do.

Actually, I find his insults to be pretty hilarious (and I've been on the receiving end of a couple).

My advice: Don't take the Internet too seriously...you'll only end up hurting yourself.

Somewhere in there - you need to add or change or subtract a word or something. When you read it, the whole sentence comes out really weird sounding.

But as for the "I did what I was bitching about" thing, I fail to see how. You also failed to show me how. You basicly came back to me and said "Look! You just did it!" without saying what I did.

What the fuck are you talking about? Dane Cook wishes he was as funny or good looking or overly-hung as I am. Bitch, get back in your kitchen and make me some pasta.

If there really is something wrong with it, why don't you point it out? Otherwise, it just looks like you don't have a grasp of the English language.

It really makes you look kinda of dumb if you can't figure it out. Now it just seems like you found the smallest thing that displeased you just so you could start a pointless argument and derail the thread. So much for "linear thinking".

There you go again...


Why don't you just stop this, and try not being a troll in a thread for once?

I did point out that something was wrong. After reading it again, I think it's because you used too many words to say something so simply. Not that you were flowery in your wording or descriptions but you kinda tripped over your idea.

Mmm. And it makes you look like some kind of fucking moron by not correcting me either. All you're saying is "No! You!" with words other than "No" or "You".

You gonna fucking cry on me now? Did I hurt your delicate sensibilities? Do you need to hide behind your mother's skirt?

See, I wouldn't act this way if there weren't people like you. It's like you're Joe Chill and I'm Batman and Logic was my parents. You shot them, I'm going to act all CRAZY FUCKING VENGENCE on you, and you're defeated.

As opposed to uploading tons of music to people I don't know and having a pretty interesting discussion on music theory? No, thank you. I enjoy sharpening my teeth - and it stands to show that all you're doing is throwing fuel into my fire - which not only perpetuates the arguement but completely validates me tearing you down like college date-rape.

Go and fuck yourself.

No, you didn't point out anything wrong. You just complained that I used too many words. The sentence is still grammatically correct though, so there really is no problem?

You're beginning to not even be worth the effort anymore. Maybe if I write a step-by-step guide, you'll finally figure something out.

1. Read your first post in which you started bitching for no reason.
2. Read the post that I quoted in which I said what you did.

Of you still can't figure it out, there's no hope.

Yeah, because I cry when people on the internet try to insult me.

Seriously, throwing in the most inane insults doesn't make you look any better than me. Get a fucking clue, no one really cares.

But that's the thing, you're not tearing anybody down, and you never do. All you basically did was admit to being a troll, which is already a pretty well known fact.

Can you both shut up now? That would be great. Thanks.

Now I'm scared to post in this thread, but I'm known for my stupidity, so I'm doing it anyway since I don't wanna make another one.

I saw Serenity, and liked it okay - it was average fare, when it came to sci-fi flicks. Good special effects, interesting enough characters, way MORE backstory than I thought possible in a two-hour film, poke-fun-at-cliche-lines dialogue... and I had no idea at that point that Firefly even existed.
Then, a few months later, I come back to my apartment and see my roommates watching something that looks like Serenity, but... what, a straight-to-DVD sequel or something? WTF is this? No no, it's Firefly. It intrigued me, but I still wasn't gung-ho about it and didn't bother to watch more than one episode all the way through.
Then a few months after that, I had the opportunity to borrow the DVD boxset from a friend. After the pilot, I fell in love. These characters seemed so much more fleshed-out, unrushed, and real than those in Serenity. It gave me answers and MORE questions, and I felt completely robbed after watching the last episode and knowing that for the forseeable future, there would be no more.
Now I'm getting my hands on everything related to Firefly that I can. I've never had a desire to watch Buffy or Angel, and I still don't, even though people say Joss Whedon supposedly did some of his best work there. Hearing the person I consider to be a master author, Orson Scott Card, praise this show as the BEST sci-fi series ever to hit television, and in many ways the first GOOD one, blew me away. High praise, but I agreed with it. Babylon 5 was fun, Star Trek was innovative, but THIS... this was absolutely an amazing series.

Character continuity was a bit muddled due to the studio's refusal to air the PILOT first, and I would agree that because of the circumstances each episode was written in, we sometimes got a confused vision of where the show was heading, especially in terms of character development. But overall, the characters, show, feeling and attitude were the most entertaining I've encountered in a sci-fi show.

I'll say this won't help you with the stupidity part, since you revived a 7 month old thread.

Ya, I don't like Ayos eithter, but his sig makes me remember "Whoa, good bible..." and then I laugh.

There is so much wrong with such a simple statement, I don't think I can completely respond to it.

Hm, yes. I'd much rather make another thread, and have everyone re-hash what they argued forever about here, than revive this one and let people look back at their own stupidity... or not.

LeHah...

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Heheh. Did I miss these little exchanges?
Yeah I totally did. That's about all I can say, considering you didn't poke fun at anything in particular. :(

After watching Serenity, I think it would have been interesting if a similar event had occurred in Firefly, where the tide changed and the Alliance was put on the defensive. Then you'd have kind of a "rebel alliance" situation. There are many things they could have done to draw the series out a bit without making it stale.

Buffy went on perhaps a season too long, but it was a great show. I don't understand the hate here...