Disgaea+ is a good way of describing this. It's enjoyable in an obsessive sort of way, but I'm already getting a little frustrated with Item Worlds. It still takes me forever to get through them, although that's really my fault since I always stop to fight the enemies. I just wish Nippon-Ichi would've varied the music from stage to stage since it really gets on my nerves after awhile. Maybe I should just stick to the main story battles until I really need to start powering up my characters.

The one thing I'm pissed about is how frustrating it is to unlock the secret fights and characters. I mean, seriously, have you guys heard some of the requisites?


I liked it a hell of a lot better when it was like Disgaea and Makai Kingdom, when all you needed was to be a certain level and have a ton of mana.

I just ordered this off ebay. Sure, it was $58 US, but if the original Disgaea is anything to go by, this will be rare in about 8 month's time. (That's also including $18 insured postage.)

Is the strategy guide worth ordering? I chewed through Disgaea 1 solely on GameFAQs, but I never bothered getting the Yoshitsuna and other legendary items in the item world. I'd like to thrash this game as much as possible but I'm pretty sure GameFAQs will be coughing out guides regardless. Some of the stuff in the original game wasn't explained very well in their guide.

Depends on how long you're willing to wait for information to disseminate. It's been really slow at GameFAQs lately, and I'm still not exactly certain how some things are unlocked.

Doublejump guides are always worth the money. They are fantastic and really really beat the SNOT out of anything and everything. I'd recommend it.

and D2 here might not get that rare that fast. NIS has stepped up their production and their other games like Makai and Iris 2 are still widely available.

I like how I managed to defeat a Pirate Leader (lvl 32) with just Adel at lvl 8, using the invincible geo panels.

I also like how I ran into a certain green Prinny in Item World.

Well, I've just done some browsing.

I pretty much can't order a guide because postage to New Zealand would cost MORE than the price of the of the guide itself. I'll just wait until GameFAQs comes up with information, or something. There really isn't a lot I can do.

Is it just me, is every ten floor much larger than the others? Every once in a while, I get a break on the normal floors and the exit is in close proximity to the base or not to much of a pain to get to. Whenever I get to the item general floors, the general tends to be an innocent on the top of some elaborate structure and the map is always strewn with enemies over a huge board. I miss when every tenth level had a chance to be relatively small.

I'm liking how stack attacks are quick experience for everyone. Just take out my Adell who luckily scored a Slap Back from Friday Mk2, and pile all the level ones on top of him. I'm only at the Coliseum and Adell can solo eveything so far.

Is this one worth picking up if you haven't played the first Disgaea? I don't really want to dish out 150 bucks for both of them right now.

How do that stack attacks work? I've just finished the first couple areas but haven't had much of a chance to mess around yet.

I recommend getting both, and playing the first disgaea before the second.

I'm doing that right now and it's addictive. 2 hasn't arrived but even if it did, I'd probably want to go back to the original and max everything out first.

If you have at least one person on top of you then you can also choose "attack" which will launch an enemies skywards, where all your teammates proceed to beat the opponent upwards, ascending the stack. The character on the top will slam the enemy down and you'll have dealt gigantic damage. If you have 10 people in the tower then the last attack is indicated with a small rainbow burst. The only catch is that after you attack, you can't throw the characters off, so that'll probably be the end of your actions for that turn. You can attack enemies from a distance though.


I'm at Chapter 10 now, and am finding reincarnation much, much more friendlier than transmigration, due to the levelling up being so much easier with all the options at your disposal. Although I'll have to slow down my playing, since 10-1 is a very annoying No Entry maze which requires throws and sacrifices (not all your characters will be able to progress until you trudge through just about the entire map).

I just found out about stack attacks this morning, and I was really amused! Do you know if the experience is equally divided among the participants in the stack?

Is it just me, or are there fewer small maps in the Item World than there used to be?

I believe it is equally divided, from watching the hilarious demo where everyone levels up from a single stack attack but I don't know for sure. It could very well be that the the initiator gets a larger chunk of the experience or something, but probably not.

Everything in the item world is always more spacious and large for me and I'm also getting much less maps that are smaller than 10X10 at minimum. Every 10th level is much more of a pain than the ones Digaea ever were.

I'm loving the game so far, and the trailer for the anime series was a nice treat.

I got to chapter 6 but then got sidetracked with leveling up my characters (as is the norm witht these games). Thank god for the power-leveling trick on 4-3 (took me 3 hours to get my characters from 25 to 9999, now I have to reincarnate a few times :) ) otherwise this game would have taken forever.

Presently I'm a little disappointed about not seeing other characters from the series (Mid-boss?) but I guess once I play/slaughter the normal story that will change. Another annoyance is the fact that you must create a character of a new class to open up the next level of class. In previous games if you got a certain class to level 100 that usually opened up all the levels of that class. But now you have to either create a new character or reincarnate into the the next level before you open up following level.

But beyond that I am having a blast. If you just want to play around and not grind for hours on end, I recommend the 4-3 power leveling trick. Everything becomes so much easier when have unlimited mana, hl, and lvl 9999 characters. It is choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend it.

When do you start getting Mr. Gency Exits in this game? I'm not talking about the first few they 'give' you but when are you able to buy them? I've been leveling up my Customer Rank and passing 'More Expensive Items' bills but they still aren't in the shops [Ch. 9, Rank 7]. I honestly don't like the Item World but it'd be nice to make use all those Subpoenas I've collected.

I have two other questions, if someone could answer them please do. I'm not using any guides and GameFAQs doesn't have much info available yet.

1. Whats the difference between 'Reincarnation' and 'Reincarnate to Atone for Sins?' The Subpoena NPC mentioned something about 'Reincarnate into a Prinny' but I don't see such a bill.
2. Whats the point/benefit to attending a Dark Assembly?

You get a Gency every time you clear the 10th level of an item in Item World.

In Disgaea 1 there wasn't any other way, so I'm just assuming it's the same for 2. Otherwise getting specialists would be way too easy.

Reincarnate as a Prinny occurs later on and isn't available at first (I don't know the requirement). Normal reincarnation lets you start anew as another class or whatever you want to reincarnate into. Prinny reincarnation erases your felony count (one reason to be to keep track past 99 felonies if you manage to get that far), but apparently the benefits of felonies remain (exp up, dark assembly easier)

NIS can lick my balls.

Much like Mr. Ireland before this, CS manages to get fucked over by someone or something he respects after buying something expensive from them over the INTERNET.

So I ordered a gamer set and a complete set of D2 from NIS back during that preorder campaign! Hurrah! Cool stuff to be included! So the store was down for 3 horus that day because of hilarious bandwidth rape. Ok, that's fine. WHO CARES. Takes long enough but BAMF, it goes through and life is good.

My credit card gets charged later on, on the 28th! Oh, ok. They are shipping it now! HURRAH. EMAIL COMES. "SUP CS, IT SHIPPED OUT. HERE IS TRACKING NUMBER! YOU ARE NOW OUT 150 BUCKS ON YOUR CREDIT CARD" Ok, I'm fine with that. So I enter the tracking number. "No record found". Ok, fine. Probably takes a day or two to get in.

SO, a DAY OR TWO LATER. Try again. Nothin. Ok. Fine. Try AGAIN EVERY DAY FOR A WEEK AND A HALF. STILL NOTHING. Ok, fine. Time to send a friendly email asking where my shit's at.

Cut to a week later. Still no tracking number, and no email response. Ok, FINE. Sending another email.

5 days later, still no response from them. To either email. Still no tracking number! OK, now I'm getting angry as it's been 3 weeks. So I send another email. This one is ANGRY, threatening, even. Saying I'm going to get Mastercard on their ass if I don't get my product. Still no response.

Ok, now I'm livid. Hey, is that their phone number? WHY YES IT IS. *Dial*.

Busy signal. Busy signal for a fucking HALF HOUR. ARG. TRYING ONE LAST TIME OUT OF DESPERATION.

Oh hay it went through.

Ring ring.

"Sup this is NISAmerica, Phoenix speaking! How can I help you?" (Yes, his name was Phoenix. AWESOME).

"Forward me to whomever is in charge of your online store."

So now he sends me to some chinese bitch I can barely understand.

"Hi, this is about order number XXXX-X. How come I haven't gotten my stuff yet? The tracking number is also invalid".
"Oh hey did you send those emails? Yeah sorry I didn't respond"

Almost killed her at this point, THROUGH THE PHONE. DEATH RAYS and such would have gotten the act done.

"So where is it?"
"Have you not gotten it yet?"
"...no. That's why I'm phoning."
"Did you check the tracking number?"
"Yeah, I just said it was invalid"
"You live in Canada right? Shipping ot Canada takes a while"
"It doesn't take 13 business days when you're using priority mail. It takes 5. 6 or 7 at MAX if there is a delay."
"Well, I dunno where it is then"
"Yeah, well, you need to find out."
"Ok, I'll phone USPS and find out where it is. Can I get back to you by the end of the day?"
"You do that. If I don't hear from you shortly I'm going to phone my credit card company."

So if that bitch doesn't phone by the end of the day, heads will roll.

I'm sorry to hear that Colonel, really. I know you're pissed, hell I'd be furious because I went through something like that with eBay. My question to you is, does Canada not have game stores? I'm not trying to be mean or sarcastic but honestly asking, because everyone I know from Canada has to import everything. What's this 'gamer set and a complete set of D2' you speak of? For 150$ I hope it wasn't just one game.

The reason I ordered it online was that you could get an exclusive art book thing if you ordered it from NIS themselves. First 1000 orders got them.

The gamerset was the game, the strategy guide, the soundtrack, and some other things, and the complete set was all that and the manga. The complete set was for me, and the gamer set was for a friend (since he didn't want the manga). So all those things together cost about 150 bucks.

But yeah, I do most of my shopping at EB. I wanted that artbook pretty bad though. And look at what it got me.

All of the art can be found online, but that fucking sucks that that happened. The internets doesn't seem to like you much, huh?

Played about ten hours of Disgaea 2 and I have a shitload of questions and things that make absolutely no sense to me.

1. What is the point of starting at level 1 with reincarnation? When *should* I do this?

2. Transfering monsters from item to item is a retarded and still hard to understand process. Everytime I try to fiddle around with it, the monsters "cannot be moved".

I believe I see a trend happening here.

This is why I don't order from places which don't have any reputation. Sure, the art book and extras would be useful, but all you really need is the strategy guide. This is the internet, after all. It's not like they haven't already scanned the art book/manga.

Try dealing with this every day when I import something. My country isn't covered by the fair trading act on international orders. If something doesn't arrive here, I'm pretty much screwed as well. Unless the person sending the product is kind enough to replace it.

In a way, my delay is a good thing. I really don't want to put the first game down at the moment. It's awesome when you really get yourself involved with Item World.

The NIS store doesn't have a bad reputation, and in my defense, Vic didn't have much (if any, IIRC) negative eBay feedback. I just keep getting FUCKED.

By the way, I totally didn't get a phone call from that whore. Tomorrow shit's gonna hit the fan.

But yeah, you know me well enough by nowto know that I am a huge sucker for collector item things. I want that artbook pretty fuckin' bad there sonny. Regardless of it's quality or size. Same goes for the manga. ANd hell, I suppose you could even say I wouldn't need the guide, since GAMEFAQS and such. But I buy that stuff because I'm a sucker. >=o

But right now I'm an ANGRY sucker with NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT. So very angry, yes.