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guyinrubbersuit Oct 23, 2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tellurian
Can you people probably give me a hint what other bands to look for...?
I'm in the mood of exploring around a bit in the broader genre...
So, what band should a big fan of Fear Factory, In Flames (admitadbly I actually like Soundtrack to your Escape and Reroute to remain which I have the feeling are somewhat shunned by "real" In Flames fans...), Killswitch Engage, Children of Bodom, Unearth and, well someone who actually likes it when bands evolve their style and don't cry "omg they changed their style! I HATE THEM NOW!" turn to when he's in the mood of experimenting around a bit?
So, what other bands would be worth a try? Hellacoptas? Entombed? I tried Amon Amarth and Iced Earth but I'm not really made for that... "true" stuff.


If you like Children of Bodom, you might like Kalmah. Kind of similar but Kalmah has many more melodies going on and I personally enjoy them more.

Shadows Fall is another great band that has evolved their style from melodic death metal to thrashcore to more of a hard rock/thrashcore sound. Also check out All That Remains, sort of similar to Shadows Fall.

One band to look further into would be Unexpect. I really don't know how to describe them other than being extremely wild and incorporating many different styles. I've only heard two songs from them but I really enjoyed what I heard.

Krelian Oct 23, 2006 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tellurian
Can you people probably give me a hint what other bands to look for...?
I'm in the mood of exploring around a bit in the broader genre...
So, what band should a big fan of Fear Factory, In Flames (admitadbly I actually like Soundtrack to your Escape and Reroute to remain which I have the feeling are somewhat shunned by "real" In Flames fans...), Killswitch Engage, Children of Bodom, Unearth and, well someone who actually likes it when bands evolve their style and don't cry "omg they changed their style! I HATE THEM NOW!" turn to when he's in the mood of experimenting around a bit?
So, what other bands would be worth a try? Hellacoptas? Entombed? I tried Amon Amarth and Iced Earth but I'm not really made for that... "true" stuff.

Raunchy. Raunchy, oh god, Raunchy.

Specifically the album Death Pop Romance.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Oct 23, 2006 11:38 PM

People don't hate In Flames because they changed their style. =/ Amorphis changed their style, and they still kick ass. In Flames just plain got shitty.

guyinrubbersuit Oct 24, 2006 12:52 AM

Yet they changed their style as well. You can obviously hear the difference between say Reroute to Remain and Jester Race or even Whoracle. They've went from focusing on melodies to more of a rhythm/groove feel. It was sort of like that with Clayman, still had plenty of melody however. Plus Anders on the later In Flames albums isn't a good singer.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Oct 24, 2006 12:53 AM

Yeah, but my point was that some bands change their style and remain awesome, just different. In Flames changed their style, and, while I agree it's certainly different, it's different in a bad way.

guyinrubbersuit Oct 24, 2006 12:58 AM

What bands do you think changed styles and remained awesome?

I guess Death would be one. They were originally a more 80s style death metal band and then progressed into a progressive death metal band and I think they got much better when they turned to that style.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Oct 24, 2006 01:01 AM

Yes, Death definitely. Amorphis, as I mentioned previously. A lot of people hate on newer Dark Tranquillity, but I still dig it. Finntroll, Jag Panzer, Sentenced stayed cool the first time their sound changed around Amok, but when they changed again for Crimson/all that stuff afterwards they lost me.

Cadenza Oct 24, 2006 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by S?ecter
Death From Above 1979 and Metric (even though both of those bands broke up)...

When did Metric break up? They're still posting new show dates on their myspace...

Krelian Oct 24, 2006 09:58 AM

There's a pattern in In Flames albums. First four albums were pretty great, but I don't see the hubbub about Jester Race. rErOuTe To AnGsT = Fucking horrible. Soundtrack = Better, but still pretty bad. Come Clarity was a pretty great comeback if you ask me - Not everyone likes it, but I thought it was pretty killer.

Skexis Oct 24, 2006 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tellurian
Can you people probably give me a hint what other bands to look for...?
I'm in the mood of exploring around a bit in the broader genre...
So, what band should a big fan of Fear Factory, In Flames (admitadbly I actually like Soundtrack to your Escape and Reroute to remain which I have the feeling are somewhat shunned by "real" In Flames fans...), Killswitch Engage, Children of Bodom, Unearth and, well someone who actually likes it when bands evolve their style and don't cry "omg they changed their style! I HATE THEM NOW!" turn to when he's in the mood of experimenting around a bit?
So, what other bands would be worth a try? Hellacoptas? Entombed? I tried Amon Amarth and Iced Earth but I'm not really made for that... "true" stuff.

Second the suggestions from guyinrubbersuit and Krelian.

For stuff similar to Killswitch Engage, check out Trivium and Bleed the Sky, for Unearth check out If Hope Dies and Parkway Drive. Look around in metalcore in general, but to be honest, those are the only bands I've heard that compare well with the ones you listed. Most of the Metalcore I've heard uses dirty production to (it seems to me) cover up for a lack of any talent. Bleeding Through, for example. They have a couple of songs I like, but without a whole lot of melody going on, I get tired of them kinda quick.

For In Flames or thrash sound, check out At the Gates, The Haunted (I prefer "The Haunted Made Me Do It"), The Fifth Sun (still unsigned right now-- I can send you some album tracks), Soilwork & side project Disarmonia Mundi, and if you end up liking that, move on to Scar Symmetry. It seems like there's been an increase in metal bands with melodic/death vocalists, and I suspect a lot of it can be traced back to Soilwork.

Star Man Aevum Oct 24, 2006 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by guyinrubbersuit
If you like Children of Bodom, you might like Kalmah. Kind of similar but Kalmah has many more melodies going on and I personally enjoy them more.

And if you like to go bird hunting, you'll love They Will Return. Just think about duck hunting or something when you listen to the title track.

Morrigan Oct 24, 2006 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Majin yami
'Doom' metal? What the fuck is this shit? Black Sabbath is Heavy Metal.

*sigh* It's also doom metal.
For good examples of doom metal, check out Candlemass, Solitude Aeternus, Electric Wizard, Saint Vitus, Count Raven, hell just go there.

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Originally Posted by Krelian
Also, I'll recommend Raunchy to everyong - Danish ultra-melodic industrial metalcore. Think Fear Factory, Lamb of God and In Flames all rolled into one angry bundle.

To everyone? I'd recommend it to people who want AIDS. That's a good description, though - clearly shows how awful they are. *shudders*

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Originally Posted by guyinrubbersuit
What bands do you think changed styles and remained awesome?

Therion! Their death metal era was awesome. Their "transitional" era was awesome. Their current symphonic era is awesome as well.

Amorphis was another good example. They're kind of starting to bore me, Eclipse didn't really grab me... but they're still pretty good.

Bathory's another good one. Excellent pioneering black metal, turned to excellent pioneering viking/pagan metal.

Skyclad became progressively folkier and completely shed the thrash metal elements, and yet still rule.

Cruachan is also still great despite having completely lost their black metal sound. Some will disagree, though... but I enjoy their celtic albums.

Then you have bands like In Flames, Sepultura, Children of Bodom, Slayer (and others too obvious to mention) that either changed style or became progressively more fecal, like parodies of their former selves.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Oct 24, 2006 08:52 PM

Yeah, Eclipse didn't really do a lot for me, either. My favourite song was only included on the album as a bonus track.

The only reason Sabbath isn't really classified by a lot of people as doom metal, Majin, is because back when they started metal didn't really have a bunch of subgenres like it does today, so everything got lumped into "heavy metal". They still have a sound more deserving of being classified as doom metal than anything else.

S?ecter Oct 25, 2006 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadenza
When did Metric break up? They're still posting new show dates on their myspace...


I had heard they had broken up from like 5 different people, maybe not, don't take my word for it...

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Originally Posted by Morrigan
Then you have bands like In Flames, Sepultura, Children of Bodom, Slayer (and others too obvious to mention) that either changed style or became progressively more fecal, like parodies of their former selves.


lol, especially Slayer, they used to all edgy and everything, and now they just seem to be like the drunk guy at the party who thinks he's still partying, while everyone else is just like "whatever dude..."

Krelian Oct 25, 2006 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Morrigan
To everyone? I'd recommend it to people who want AIDS. That's a good description, though - clearly shows how awful they are. *shudders*

Heheheh, different strokes. Metal doesn't need to take itself so seriously all the time.

So I started listening to Edge of Sanity a few days ago. Anything with Dan Swano is good, right? Yeah, kinda. I'm having a hard time liking some of their stuff, but Crimson and Crimson II are very yes.

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Oh, yeah, and it's probably time to bring THIS up.

http://main.megatherion.com/media/disco/kaballah.jpg

guyinrubbersuit Oct 25, 2006 02:06 PM

A red X?

Little Brenty Brent Brent Oct 25, 2006 02:07 PM

Works fine for me.

guyinrubbersuit Oct 25, 2006 02:33 PM

I guess IE doesn't like it. Firefox does however.

Krelian Oct 25, 2006 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by guyinrubbersuit
A red X?

Haha, like the one in your sig? Oh god, that was awful.

Anyway, re-hosted for people with fussy browsers...

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/316/kaballahpl2.jpg

guyinrubbersuit Oct 25, 2006 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Krelian
Haha, like the one in your sig? Oh god, that was awful.


Herherherher. Oh you kidder you. :lolsign:


I need to get more Therion. I only have Secret of the Runes.

Morrigan Oct 25, 2006 10:35 PM

Get Theli, dude. Then get Beyond Sanctorum. :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Krelian
Heheheh, different strokes. Metal doesn't need to take itself so seriously all the time.

??? Non-sequitur alert!

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[Therion pic]
Nice. Simple, unpretentious and effective.

knkwzrd Oct 25, 2006 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigan
Nice. Simple, unpretentious and effective.

Yeah, no title says "unpretentious" like Gothic Kabbalah. :rolleyes:

Seriously though, can't wait to hear it.

Skexis Oct 26, 2006 03:02 AM

Has anyone heard The Crown? How do they end up as far as being thrash versus death? Do you prefer Tomas Lindberg to Johan Lindstrand for vocals?

Also, heard about The Absence from the sampler that came with the latest Unearth release. Pretty slick riffs, if you ask me.

Tellurian Oct 26, 2006 03:47 PM

Oh yes. Therion's "must have listened to" album is definetly Theli.
Though I have to admit that I've somewhat lost interest in them after Deggial, which was a good Album, but a little too heavy on the orchestra and too light on the metal for my taste.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Oct 26, 2006 04:00 PM

Anyone had a chance to check out the new Arsis (United in Regret) yet?


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